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    HGSE Fall 2014

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    I also went to the Friday session (and attended the Askwith Forum the night before). In short, it was great. Everyone I spoke with really enjoy/enjoyed their time at HGSE. Biggest downside or obstacle was trying to do everything that's available on campus, from internships/field to forums to research. One person I met took 6 courses a semester while being involved with a few things. The faculty also seem both vested in students and just plain amazing (I'm looking at you Dr Higgins and Dr Shonkoff!). Also Val, the career services director was exceptional - had no idea HGSE had such a strong career services group (they start working with you before you enroll!).

    HGSE vs Stanford GSE (HDP vs ICE)?

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    @mrgelato, for me the cohort size is important not only for post-grad networking, but also because you are exposed to a wider range of peers with different backgrounds and experiences. You learn just as much from peer students as you will from your profs. There is a critical mass needed for programs, just as there is an ideal size for classes to stimulate discussion and idea exchange.

    In terms of post grad networking, there are many more alumni of HGSE out there than there are of Stanford by virtue of their relative sizes. I think this will be useful whether you decide to pursue research/phd or you pursue something in the classroom.

    One last unrelated point. Consistent with what some other international students have said, if you plan to work abroad, reputational differences matter. I met a student on gap year a week ago from Australia. We were talking about universities here vs there and she said she could only think of one or two "top" US schools - Harvard and MIT. She "had heard of" Stanford, Yale, Berkeley, but didn't have any specific impression of any of those. In Aus, Oxford, Cambridge and Harvard apparently carry distinctly more cache than any other global uni.

    HGSE Fall 2014

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    Go Bears indeed (fellow alum)!

    Also, totally unrelated to the last few messages on this thread, but for those thinking about HGSE, definitely check out the videos on their YouTube chancel - some very interesting student perspectives and a bunch of very high profile HGSE events (the "ASKWITH Forums") with speakers ranging from Oprah/Lady Gaga to Arne Duncan/Condy Rice/Chris Christie et al.

    HGSE vs Stanford GSE (HDP vs ICE)?

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    One other thing to consider which I alluded to in another thread. According to Stanford's website, last years ICE/IEAPA masters cohort was 14 students! The entire non-STEP cohort size is 77 MA students for last year. In contrast, HGSE's cohort size by masters program ranges from 30-60 masters students, which I think is just the right size - not too large (like TC) and not too small (like Stanford). I went to an admitted student reception recently and was impressed by the folks I met there. The size thing was a positive relative to the other comparable programs. Looking forward to the Visit Days this week!

    HGSE Fall 2014

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    ^I think this is simply because Stanford's STEP (teacher education) program - particularly its secondary teaching program - is very highly regarded...one of the best in the country. It attracts a lot of students out of undergrad - especially Cal and Stanford grads - looking to get their teaching credential. STEP is definitely the "star" of Stanford GSE.

    HGSE has never been particularly well known for teacher education...

    Interesting - thanks for the info. Btw, are you a Cal or Stanford alum?

    HGSE Fall 2014

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    Posted · Edited by SoCalGuy

    Did anyone else notice in the US News books that HGSE enrollment fell by almost 100 students? For 2013 program was 945 and in 2014 it was 855. Are they scaling back the EdM cohorts?

    One other thing I noticed after looking at admitted profile stats. At HGSE, teacher programs are a small component of the Masters cohort - only 20-25 students out of 575 or so. At Stanford, teacher ed comprises the majority of masters students - approximately 95-100 out of the 180 or so masters class. Very interesting!

    HGSE Fall 2014

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    Posted · Edited by SoCalGuy

    OCD, I think s/he got the "50% admitted" number from last year's US News Grad School rankings which shows Harvard EdM in that range (Stanford at around 40% and Columbia at 55% if I recall correctly). I know the Stanford number is quite a bit off as the admissions office told me earlier this year that the MA admit rates were "around 20-25%" but varies depending on the specific program. Curious where you got your stats from - always interesting to see more reliable data points!

    HGSE vs Stanford GSE (HDP vs ICE)?

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    Harvard is a great school but people are starting to realize their hype mostly comes from archaic prestige.

    Standford is in a better location, less "class" size and they have connections to a state which has the most public universities and community colleges..

    Unless your a North Eastern native I would go to Standford!

    I've seen on other posts you've made that you're not a fan of HGSE. Just curious, on what basis are you making your assessment?

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