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    orange turtle reacted to fuzzylogician in Can I include this in my CV? (if professor is claiming all the credit)   
    This is unfortunate but unless you want to fight this (meaning, going to the powers that be at the university and proving to them that he's claiming your work as his own), having this on your CV might raise questions you don't want to answer. And fighting your advisor, who seems to be a powerful famous person, may not be in your best interest. What I would suggest is approaching him with this question, but phrased slightly differently. Tell him you want to discuss the experience you gained in his lab in your application, and in particular the work you did with your lab mate training others using his technique, and ask him how he would advise you approach it. Assuming that he's been doing this for a while and he's had students successfully go on to other institutions and win fellowships (which I would assume is the case), he's got to have a way of handling this that helps both him and the student. One would also hope that he would have a way of discussing things in his LORs that wouldn't compromise anyone. It's unfair, but it might still be your best shot, so gauge his reaction and follow his lead. 
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    orange turtle reacted to TakeruK in Can I include this in my CV? (if professor is claiming all the credit)   
    Are you writing about the Canadian Common CV? I know that many Canadian fellowships use similar language to what you describe because when a prof in Canada gets grants, they need to justify their output and one of the outputs is training people.
    Maybe this is a field-dependent thing, but other than the fact that your names are left out, everything sounds kosher to me. You and your lab partner are paid from his grant, I presume, so therefore all the work you produce is "owned" by the professor and the professor gets to claim credit in the sense that he applied for the grant money, and this was the good that came out of that money. Even if you are not fully paid by his grant, the protocol was created by him from some other grant money, presumably, so all output from that work is still claimable as part of his output.
    What I mean is that there is really two types of credit. One is the intellectual/academic credit and you and your lab partner should get credit for this, since you actually carried out the training and the work. But the other type of credit is for grant accounting, and showing that previous grant awarded was money well invested. For this, the credit should go to whomever is the PI of the grant that funded all of this work. For example, there was a project where I worked mostly with a postdoc as my advisor but we both belonged to a lab run by a faculty member. I met the faculty member maybe twice per month, but in the end, I counted as a "qualified personnel" trained by the faculty member's grant, not the postdoc's (since the postdoc doesn't have a grant). However, the postdoc still could and should list me as a student they co-advised on their academic CV (not the one for funding applications though). 
    So, this may or may not be a problem. If this is the Canadian Common CV that is used for applying to grants, then this CV is really just about grant proposals and accounting, and I wouldn't worry too much about it, unless you see other warning signs (see next paragraph). In this case, for your own application, you can still list that you were involved in training the people you trained. Similar to what fuzzylogician suggested, you can discuss this with your advisor without accusing them of anything---ask something like, "how would you advise me to write about [the work you did] in my CV?". It's okay for more than one person to get credit for training someone!
    However, if this is not what I think it is, and this is just the prof's main CV and they go around claiming credit for all of your work and never talk about your contributions, then this is a big red flag. I am not quite sure what to do next, since you don't want to burn bridges and throw away relationships since the power is all against you. It really depends on what stage you are at...are you a new grad student? an undergrad about to finish? a grad student about to finish?
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    orange turtle got a reaction from 1996kayden in Anyone else starting PhD with chronic illness?   
    I started 1st year last year with a chronic illness myself--neurological, can get epic. It sucked major amazeballs. I was so stressed out from the move and the big city and trying to make sure I didn't fail. On retrospect, I learned several things I wish I knew earlier, including that I should have asked questions here on Grad Forum.
    What I learned this last 8 months:
    1) Your department chair can make or break your experience--find out which camp your chair belongs to. Mine was and is a lifesaver and had many great tips on navigating the system. When I finally confessed to him I was on the verge of collapsing from an ongoing chronic health problem, he looked at me and said "Well, what took you so long to ask for help? I'm paid the big bucks to help you through this! That's why I get the fancy office and wear the fancy tie!"
    2) Ask for help, but be careful who you ask for help from. You will need people to support you, but not everyone will be your ally. Find out who your lifesavers are, treasure them, and always remember to say thank you. Learning to say sorry doesn't hurt either. Never apologize for your disability and/or health condition, but it's never too late to learn to say, say "I'm sorry I'm running late." Better to not run late, but being sick sometimes affects the space-time continuum. :-)
    3) Know your limits, and know when to say, well, f*** you, I come first.
    4) Do not overdo classes, no matter how tempting it is.
    5) Talk to the disability office. They have some amazing services; maybe they have some suggestions on how to get diagnosed, or services they can recommend. Like I have a program that reads to me so when my neurological condition acts up, and I am quite ill, and can't read well. Like whaaat? The program reads to me. Yes, it gets pretty hilarious when it tries to read scientific words, but it still reads to me. 
    6) Learn to laugh at yourself.
    7) If you take medication (I do), don't forget. Always have some at home, on you, and in your office. I needed the emergency room because I, of course, forgot mine on exam day, and landed in the hospital. Got a nice lecture from my neurologist and paramedics. (if my drug levels drop, I'm in trouble)
    8) Do something outside your program. Doesn't matter what it is. Run, swim, bake, see family, see friends, garden, party, volunteer, go to church/mosque/temple, watch movies, have sex, rock climb, travel, knit, play music, campaign for something, have a pet, paint, collect something, judge others, shop, repair cars, paintball, do yoga, whatever.
     
     
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    orange turtle got a reaction from Nanolol in Anyone else starting PhD with chronic illness?   
    I started 1st year last year with a chronic illness myself--neurological, can get epic. It sucked major amazeballs. I was so stressed out from the move and the big city and trying to make sure I didn't fail. On retrospect, I learned several things I wish I knew earlier, including that I should have asked questions here on Grad Forum.
    What I learned this last 8 months:
    1) Your department chair can make or break your experience--find out which camp your chair belongs to. Mine was and is a lifesaver and had many great tips on navigating the system. When I finally confessed to him I was on the verge of collapsing from an ongoing chronic health problem, he looked at me and said "Well, what took you so long to ask for help? I'm paid the big bucks to help you through this! That's why I get the fancy office and wear the fancy tie!"
    2) Ask for help, but be careful who you ask for help from. You will need people to support you, but not everyone will be your ally. Find out who your lifesavers are, treasure them, and always remember to say thank you. Learning to say sorry doesn't hurt either. Never apologize for your disability and/or health condition, but it's never too late to learn to say, say "I'm sorry I'm running late." Better to not run late, but being sick sometimes affects the space-time continuum. :-)
    3) Know your limits, and know when to say, well, f*** you, I come first.
    4) Do not overdo classes, no matter how tempting it is.
    5) Talk to the disability office. They have some amazing services; maybe they have some suggestions on how to get diagnosed, or services they can recommend. Like I have a program that reads to me so when my neurological condition acts up, and I am quite ill, and can't read well. Like whaaat? The program reads to me. Yes, it gets pretty hilarious when it tries to read scientific words, but it still reads to me. 
    6) Learn to laugh at yourself.
    7) If you take medication (I do), don't forget. Always have some at home, on you, and in your office. I needed the emergency room because I, of course, forgot mine on exam day, and landed in the hospital. Got a nice lecture from my neurologist and paramedics. (if my drug levels drop, I'm in trouble)
    8) Do something outside your program. Doesn't matter what it is. Run, swim, bake, see family, see friends, garden, party, volunteer, go to church/mosque/temple, watch movies, have sex, rock climb, travel, knit, play music, campaign for something, have a pet, paint, collect something, judge others, shop, repair cars, paintball, do yoga, whatever.
     
     
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    orange turtle got a reaction from rheya19 in RANT: Does anyone else think that grad school is a complete trap?   
    I wanted to share that my experience has been quite different, to give a little perspective to the other side. Most of my professors have been very pleasantly surprised when somebody has offered an opinion that contradicts that. Some even beam. One professor right out said they were thrilled a student "finally disagreed because that's what graduate school is supposed to help you do." Of course not all faculty like to be disagreed with, and they are in every school.
    I would suggest that *how* you disagree with someone in academia can make a big difference. Having a healthy discussion requires acknowledging that the person you are speaking with has a valid point, but, hey, maybe they missed this other side of the coin: would they consider this other perspective?
    I acknowledge the school you attend has a bunch of "arrogant morons" as you put it. But could it be the way you phrase your different opinions, maybe, just maybe, be putting them on the defensive of the 25 years they spent studying a particular thing? (I also acknowledge maybe my school is just more chilled)
    Cheers!
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    orange turtle got a reaction from rheya19 in How to Present Yourself (Superficially)   
    First, congratulations on being admitted!
    Hair colour: I wouldn't dye your hair neutral.
    Makeup: I think it's fine to wear makeup as long as you don't overdo it, like you said. I wouldn't go with long fake eyelashes, extra fake long nails, mascara that runs if the day is too hot, blush that makes your skin too blotchy, etc. My rule of thumb is to wear what you would usually wear so you know you're comfortable with it. This is not the time to experiment with that free gift from Sephora.
    Clothes: I second what @TakeruK said about it depending on the field/school you're visiting. In most areas though, you would be pretty safe with a nice pair of jeans (no holes, no rips, no faded wash) and a nice top that doesn't hug too much. You mentioned you're busty. I am on the bustier side as well. I make sure to check that whatever top I am wearing doesn't "pop" when I bend and doesn't show sideways (carry safety pins!), and I also make sure that it doesn't give away anything on the rear end as well. For this reason, I personally steer clear of leggings (awkward panty lines--people know if you're wearing a thong or not) unless I'm wearing a skirt on top. Since your hair is bright, I would recommend a simple/plain blouse, shirt, or top. You want most of the attention to be your work.
    If it helps, I interviewed/visited with a simple white top (striped top for a different school), black pants, a scarf, no coat, and flat black shoes. Boring, but it worked. I wanted the profs to focus on my work, not what I wore.
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    orange turtle got a reaction from TakeruK in How to Present Yourself (Superficially)   
    First, congratulations on being admitted!
    Hair colour: I wouldn't dye your hair neutral.
    Makeup: I think it's fine to wear makeup as long as you don't overdo it, like you said. I wouldn't go with long fake eyelashes, extra fake long nails, mascara that runs if the day is too hot, blush that makes your skin too blotchy, etc. My rule of thumb is to wear what you would usually wear so you know you're comfortable with it. This is not the time to experiment with that free gift from Sephora.
    Clothes: I second what @TakeruK said about it depending on the field/school you're visiting. In most areas though, you would be pretty safe with a nice pair of jeans (no holes, no rips, no faded wash) and a nice top that doesn't hug too much. You mentioned you're busty. I am on the bustier side as well. I make sure to check that whatever top I am wearing doesn't "pop" when I bend and doesn't show sideways (carry safety pins!), and I also make sure that it doesn't give away anything on the rear end as well. For this reason, I personally steer clear of leggings (awkward panty lines--people know if you're wearing a thong or not) unless I'm wearing a skirt on top. Since your hair is bright, I would recommend a simple/plain blouse, shirt, or top. You want most of the attention to be your work.
    If it helps, I interviewed/visited with a simple white top (striped top for a different school), black pants, a scarf, no coat, and flat black shoes. Boring, but it worked. I wanted the profs to focus on my work, not what I wore.
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    orange turtle reacted to .letmeinplz// in Video recording without sound for privacy reasons   
    might be hard, maybe try DSLRs that can record video as well (but they also seem to have mics). or perhaps security cams that don't have mics?
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    orange turtle reacted to TakeruK in Video recording without sound for privacy reasons   
    Can you get a electrician to disconnect/damage/disable the mic in a way that it is permanently unable to record sound? Or, can you tape up the camcorder's mic in case you ever forget to mute the mic?
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    orange turtle reacted to TakeruK in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    Yay! I am glad it worked out
    It's sometimes tough knowing what expectations are so hopefully this semester will allow you to calibrate these expectations for future terms. Also, it sounds like you have already set up a good support network in case you do need it in the future. Best of luck!!
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    orange turtle got a reaction from Need Coffee in an IV in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    @TakeruK, @Need Coffee in an IV, @fuzzylogician, and others who might be interested;
    So my grades were all released today and it turns out I didn't do as badly as I thought. I actually managed an A in all my classes. I just saw my graduate director this morning as he asked me to come by after the grades were released and his conclusion was that I didn't do as badly as I thought I did. He looked like he was trying so hard not to laugh while he talked to me this morning.
    I'm putting this here just in case somebody else is going to panic at the end of the year for similar reasons and wondered if there was going to be light at the end of the tunnel.
     
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    orange turtle got a reaction from St Andrews Lynx in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    @TakeruK, @Need Coffee in an IV, @fuzzylogician, and others who might be interested;
    So my grades were all released today and it turns out I didn't do as badly as I thought. I actually managed an A in all my classes. I just saw my graduate director this morning as he asked me to come by after the grades were released and his conclusion was that I didn't do as badly as I thought I did. He looked like he was trying so hard not to laugh while he talked to me this morning.
    I'm putting this here just in case somebody else is going to panic at the end of the year for similar reasons and wondered if there was going to be light at the end of the tunnel.
     
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    orange turtle got a reaction from fuzzylogician in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    @TakeruK, @Need Coffee in an IV, @fuzzylogician, and others who might be interested;
    So my grades were all released today and it turns out I didn't do as badly as I thought. I actually managed an A in all my classes. I just saw my graduate director this morning as he asked me to come by after the grades were released and his conclusion was that I didn't do as badly as I thought I did. He looked like he was trying so hard not to laugh while he talked to me this morning.
    I'm putting this here just in case somebody else is going to panic at the end of the year for similar reasons and wondered if there was going to be light at the end of the tunnel.
     
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    orange turtle got a reaction from rising_star in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    @TakeruK, @Need Coffee in an IV, @fuzzylogician, and others who might be interested;
    So my grades were all released today and it turns out I didn't do as badly as I thought. I actually managed an A in all my classes. I just saw my graduate director this morning as he asked me to come by after the grades were released and his conclusion was that I didn't do as badly as I thought I did. He looked like he was trying so hard not to laugh while he talked to me this morning.
    I'm putting this here just in case somebody else is going to panic at the end of the year for similar reasons and wondered if there was going to be light at the end of the tunnel.
     
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    orange turtle got a reaction from TakeruK in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    @TakeruK, @Need Coffee in an IV, @fuzzylogician, and others who might be interested;
    So my grades were all released today and it turns out I didn't do as badly as I thought. I actually managed an A in all my classes. I just saw my graduate director this morning as he asked me to come by after the grades were released and his conclusion was that I didn't do as badly as I thought I did. He looked like he was trying so hard not to laugh while he talked to me this morning.
    I'm putting this here just in case somebody else is going to panic at the end of the year for similar reasons and wondered if there was going to be light at the end of the tunnel.
     
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    orange turtle reacted to TakeruK in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    Hooray! Glad to hear that you are going to get the support to succeed in your program  Happy new year!
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    orange turtle reacted to Need Coffee in an IV in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    Thats great! I'm happy you are getting the help you need. It shows that you have a supportive department and that makes everything easier. Remember you can vent on here anytime!
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    orange turtle reacted to fuzzylogician in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    @orange turtle that's excellent, I'm glad you've decided to reach out and get help, and I am very happy to hear that everyone has responded very kindly. It sounds like everyone wants to help and there will be a way to figure things out. Good luck! 
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    orange turtle reacted to TakeruK in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    Hello!
    First, please take care of yourself during the break. If you haven't taken some time off, doing that could be a good idea. 
    Next, I think you are right that you will have to do something or there will be negative consequences down the line. I have not been in your situation, so maybe this won't be the best advice but I hope it provides a useful perspective. I think that most of the problems that students have in grad school are due to unclear communication with the faculty. I think it's really important that you talk to the professors about these issues and get their support, if you are able to be comfortable with doing so.
    I think it is worth the risk (responding to the "not knowing who you can trust") because there has been and will continue to be more negative consequences for you if you don't get the right support. Again, I'm not in your shoes and I don't know what the situation is like, but I would ask myself what is worse: being labelled as a bad student and not getting nominated by the department for anything, or having people find out about your disability? I feel like the negative consequences of having the faculty know is unimportant if they are already writing you off as a non-successful student. 
    But I'm not considering the emotional impact of having everyone know. I can't know how you would feel and I don't mean to minimize this part of your experience either. If you are finding it challenging to bring up, does your school's disability office have people that can guide you through this? If not, I would go to the school's counseling center and talk to a counselor for advice. It might also be helpful to come up with a plan for things that you need in class to actually help you (not just the recorder). For example, you can probably ask for professors to not call upon you in class (if it's part of the evaluation, then they can come up with an alternate way to evaluate whatever they're looking for). Or, if you want to still participate in this way, let them know to give you a little more time to formulate your response if they call on you. 
    Ultimately, it's up to you what to do of course and I don't want to pressure you in any way. From the way you describe the situation, things sound like some action needs to be taken, but it's not too late to change the course of your graduate school. It also sounds like the upcoming semesters will go the same way (unless this first semester of your program is special for some reason?) so that's why I think intervention is better sooner rather than later.
    Finally, it's not just your responsibility to "figure it out" by yourself. The department should have some responsibility in ensuring you have access to the support you need to succeed. They accepted you into their program, so they bear some responsibility for your success. I think it is okay to let your new supervisor know what's going on---you don't need her to play "mommy" but it's no longer just a personal issue since it's affecting your academic performance. But maybe she can help you identify some professors you can trust and go to first. And if you decide not to tell the majority of professors, if other faculty mention your performance in reviews or other department meetings, you have an ally that can help you (without revealing the personal details). 
    Good luck in the new year. I don't think you need to go through this alone. I hope you are able to find people on campus that you can talk to and get support for your disability.
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    orange turtle reacted to Need Coffee in an IV in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    I'm very sorry that this semester didn't go as planned! I have a speech impediment and my bf has an autoimmune illness too. So you aren't alone and while I can't completely understand since I'm not you, I can kinda relate. I know expressing your problems will be difficult but I think that is the only way you can get over this hump. Maybe go to the disability office and have a couple meetings to come up with a game plan? Then email your chair/head of department to see if they can come by so they can also be a part of plan? Then with your permission have the chair privately discuss this with your upcoming professors and maybe talk to your new professors after the first day of class to be on the same page? This way it doesn't look like you are trying to make excuses? Idk if this helped but I wish you good luck!
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    orange turtle reacted to fuzzylogician in Bad first term and fellowship applications due to illness/disability   
    OP, I relate to this in more ways than I care to describe right now, especially the vicious circle you talk about in your post, but not just. Here is what I've learned over the years: you can't do it alone. You need to have a support circle around you (including of course your friends and family), and you need to trust your advisors. If you ever wish to have a career in academia -- but even if you just want to make it through a PhD and then do something else -- these people will need to be your supporters for many years to come, including long after you graduate. You have to trust them to act in your best interest and to want you to succeed, otherwise none of this is going to work. 
    So with that assumption in mind, you need to start thinking about how you approach someone at your school about this. A decent advisor will want to help you with this, but they can't do it if they don't know that there is a problem. Or even if they see that there is a problem, unless they know what it is, many will wait for you to approach them instead of making assumptions that may turn out be wrong. This doesn't mean you need to tell everyone, but there may be ways to make strategic decisions about who to talk to and what information to share. Depending on how comfortable you feel about talking to someone in your department, you may want to get help from the office of students with disabilities or from the ombudsperson at your school, who will either know how to approach this, or will have the resources to find out.
    If you do feel comfortable just doing this yourself, I can think of three options for who you would talk to: your advisor, the DGS, or the department chair. You would share some details of your situation as you are comfortable doing -- they don't need and may not want to know too many details. You concentrate in particular on how it's affecting your work, including falling behind, having a hard time catching up, how it's making your feel, and your concerns about how it's affecting your instructors' opinions of you. Once you get someone on your side, you can ask them to talk to your other instructors confidentially to share just enough to explain that there is an issue that requires some consideration. 
    You should come prepared with some ideas of how your department can help you. Will having more time for assignments help? Do you need some one-on-one time with someone to help you catch up? Should you maybe postpone some course to a later semester to spread things out in a more manageable way? Would it make sense to take an incomplete in some course to concentrate on the others? Would it help to have a particular RA/TA assignment that would be better suited for you and save you time/effort, so you can concentrate on other things? This part is very important, because if you don't know what you need, they will have a hard time helping you. If you talk to someone from the office of disabilities, something to find out is the kinds of things that they facilitate, so you can get some ideas for possible things to ask for, if you're not sure yet what you need. 
    It's not too late to fix whatever first impression you may have made on others. It's only the first semester, and if you are able to pick things up and set a better course for the future, I think a lot of people will appreciate you for dealing with a difficulty and finding your way through it. It's really not uncommon for students to take at least a semester to adjust to grad school, so this may not be nearly as unique to you or devastating as you might be imagining. If you are able to get back on track and do well next semester, I think there is every chance that you'll be supported for fellowships in the summer and that, more generally, your professors will think highly of you. 
    And take care of yourself. That's so important, and hard to do exactly when you need it most!
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    orange turtle got a reaction from hopefulPhD2017 in What Next? After the Applications are Turned In   
    You could tactfully ask if the program has funds. Don't be rude or pushy. Just enquire respectfully. I did for the programs that interviewed me. Phrase it such that you want to know if there is funding you can "apply" for and you understand if there is none.
    All were very understanding when I asked. I asked at both schools and one school said when the application gets shortlisted, I get a flat stipend to come out. The second school said they didn't have funds and to ask the PI I was interested in. And surprise! My PI offered to fly me out on her grant. I am now working with her :-)
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    orange turtle got a reaction from Horb in Grad students from low-income backgrounds (rant?)   
    For what it's worth, I find being completely upfront the best thing for me. I remember a conversation with a prof I TA with where she mentioned in passing that it was annoying that she needed to wait at home for the pool cleaners to come and that interfered with her golf outing with a friend. The story then goes that the golf was supposed to lead to some dressage show. I made some comment about loving horses and she asked how often I rode, and I said never, even though I used to volunteer with them just so I could be around them. When she asked why, I told her upfront I didn't have the money to ride. The prof looked at me quite puzzled and I had to explain that the money it cost to ride (equipment, clothes, riding lessons, etc) is equivalent to X number of meals I could eat in a week or month, or maybe part of my rent. She really had zero clue what her students make do with. 
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    orange turtle got a reaction from Butterfly_effect in Grad students from low-income backgrounds (rant?)   
    For what it's worth, I find being completely upfront the best thing for me. I remember a conversation with a prof I TA with where she mentioned in passing that it was annoying that she needed to wait at home for the pool cleaners to come and that interfered with her golf outing with a friend. The story then goes that the golf was supposed to lead to some dressage show. I made some comment about loving horses and she asked how often I rode, and I said never, even though I used to volunteer with them just so I could be around them. When she asked why, I told her upfront I didn't have the money to ride. The prof looked at me quite puzzled and I had to explain that the money it cost to ride (equipment, clothes, riding lessons, etc) is equivalent to X number of meals I could eat in a week or month, or maybe part of my rent. She really had zero clue what her students make do with. 
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    orange turtle got a reaction from PsychBoy in Vanier 2015-2016   
    Hello!
    Long time lurker but first time posting. In fact, I just signed up.
    I am thinking of applying for the Vanier next year. I am curious what candidates who got forwarded by their institutions put for their leadership section.
    Also, what about research potential? It says in this section that "both the prestige of the Vanier CGS and the stage and nature of the candidate's academic career should be considered." Does this mean if you're a 1st year Phd, they expect you to have fewer publications than a 2nd year and so forth? Or that different research councils have different expectations? (I will be applying to CIHR)
    Thanks, and good luck for results tomorrow! I wish everyone the best!
     
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