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  1. fireuponthedeep

    General Review/Preparation Prior to MS Biostats Program

    @Stat PhD Now Postdoc okay, sounds like I will be poring through linear algebra done right and understanding analysis for the next couple months! And I'll just review Calc with some sort of open course ware, good to know I can ignore trig and polar coordinates tho haha. Coursera has a few R programming courses offered through JHUs Biostat department I can audit for free, but I think just jumping into would be a good idea too, that's usually how I learn best with programming. Maybe mix and match if I need more help/guidance. As an aside, thank you for all your help, both on this post and the others I've previously made. It's been indescribably beneficial to get an informed opinion!
  2. Hello all! I have been researching topics to review prior to the beginning of my program, and wanted to know if these were good places to start? -Basics of Linear Algebra -Calc I-III, u-sub, chain rule, etc. -Gain familiarity with R -Dip toes into Measure Theory/Real Analysis if feeling particularly ambitious I took Linear Algebra 4 years ago, and have been reviewing the textbook I used (Introduction to Linear Algebra, Strang 5th ed) and it's coming back quickly. However, I'm (now) realizing it's mostly applied, and it seems a proof based text would be more appropriate? Is there a specific proof based text (I've read that Matrix Analysis and Applied Linear Algebra by Meyer is a good proof based text?) I could use instead, or will that be overkill and just reviewing Strang/basics enough? None of my calc courses were hard to understand when I took them so I'm not particularly worried about reviewing/regaining the info, but how in depth should I go? Just review some problems, or should I redo my textbooks? Any specific books/courses for learning R? I was planning on using 'The Art of R Programming' by Matloff. I have literally no experience with R lol. Is trying to learn Measure Theory (Casella & Berger) and Real Analysis (Either Rudin or Understanding Analysis by Abbott) total overkill? I didn't take Real Analysis in undergrad, but planning on taking it during my program. Feels like a decent idea to at least get some basic understanding beforehand. And I just wanna hit the ground running for my program, been out of undergrad 2 years and worried about being behind the curve. If there are any areas/topics I didn't mention and definitely need to cover, please let me know! And any other tips, advice, or good texts to use would be greatly appreciated!
  3. fireuponthedeep

    Fall 2019 Statistics Applicant Thread

    I think UNCs honestly not too bad compared to those schools (especially Harvard/JHU/berkeley once cost of living is factored in), out of state is 15k a semester for UNC, far higher at the other places. I receive in state tuition to UMN, so it will be nearly half as much to get my MS, which is a no brainer to me. And that's assuming I don't get a graduate assistantship lol. Plus I'll be closer to my family and my dogs need cold weather! If the costs were closer I'd definitely consider UNC, but regardless I'm sure happy to get an admit!
  4. fireuponthedeep

    Fall 2019 Statistics Applicant Thread

    I guess the actual admissions email was just slow to arrive, I received it this morning. If the cost wasn't so prohibitive I'd love to go, but still nice to be admitted! Best of luck to everyone else waiting on admissions decisions!
  5. fireuponthedeep

    Fall 2019 Statistics Applicant Thread

    Did anybody get a weird email from UNC today? I reached out a few weeks ago about my MS Biostatistics application, and they responded with Hi [me], I am sure you have been notified of your admission! Congratulations! So that seems like an admit? But also that was all it said, the application hadn't changed on their website, and I haven't heard anything else from them lmao. It doesn't really matter since I'm going to UofMN, but it would feel good to know I got admitted to UNC too lol.
  6. fireuponthedeep

    Emory vs Minnesota MS

    I appreciate the advice! I ended up picking UMN, I just wanted some confirmation that it was the better option between the two.
  7. fireuponthedeep

    Emory vs Minnesota MS

    Hello all! I was admitted to both Emory and Minnesota's MS Biostatistics programs. Minnesota would be significantly cheaper, Emory would be roughly 2x as expensive. I would love to go to Emory, received a decently large scholarship (even that brought the cost down to only 2x Minnesota) but am having difficulty justifying the price. I know they're both ranked roughly the same, and I wouldn't be lacking for job opportunities from either school, would I? I want to go into industry but potentially pursue my PhD later down the road. If anyone has advice, insights or comments they would like to share I would greatly appreciate them!
  8. fireuponthedeep

    Fall 2019 Statistics Applicant Thread

    That explains the crickets I heard when I emailed them last week lol
  9. fireuponthedeep

    School Prestige for Industry

    @theduckster that's a good point, just getting a PhD wouldn't necessarily boost me to the top. I'm basing it more on the job descriptions the companies put out, all the senior level stat/biostat positions list having a PhD as a prerequisite. Maybe the x years of experience + a masters would make up for that, but I honestly have no clue as I've not even entered the field yet lol. I think it's safe to assume that having a PhD would at least give me more options for advancement, based on those job descriptions. I have zero clue how I feel about research, went to a small liberal arts college so had minimal opportunities to do it there (wasn't really on my radar either) and where I'm currently living is pretty rural so no chances here. Figured I'd get exposure to research during my masters and figure out how I feel then, but it felt a little bold to apply for a PhD with no idea whether I'd enjoy the final 3~4 years. Didn't really consider the path of going for a PhD but only staying long enough to get my Masters and essentially getting it paid for. Feels kinda disingenuous to plan to do it that way, not sure if there's a stigma attached to it but seems iffy to me. But I'm probably thinking that way to feel better about not even considering it lol
  10. fireuponthedeep

    School Prestige for Industry

    @Stat PhD Now Postdoc Yeah, that lines up with what I've heard on here/elsewhere, but it's good to have it reaffirmed. And money is primarily an issue with only Emory, if I got into Minnesota/Wisconsin I would get in state tuition since I live in Minnesota so it would be drastically cheaper, but haven't heard back from either yet so operating with Emory as my top choice. Emory would be about 2~2.5x more expensive than either state school. Honestly I applied to my Master's without any thoughts of getting my PhD, more interested but it's too late to change that decision lol. And it's a very lukewarm interest, not sure I'd enjoy research since I've never done it. I know I want my Master's, but iffy on a PhD at this point in my life. I say I want to get my PhD, but it's primarily so I could advance up the ladder in industry and get more leadership roles, from what I've heard PhDs dominate the top in industry, but maybe I'll enjoy not having responsibility, hard to say lol. To me it's a big commitment to go for my PhD with zero clue if I'd enjoy the final 3 years due to research focus, whereas my Master's is going to be coursework primarily and I know what that's like. I'm going to reexamine how I feel about a PhD in 5 years, see how life is and whether it makes sense to continue on for it or not. But for now it's not something I feel comfortable pursuing. I don't mind the cost of a Master's since I know it'll increase my earning potential, but I would like to make it as cheap as possible, with other factors being considered. And if I do end up wanting to get my PhD, I want my Master's choice to not torpedo my chances of going someone good lol
  11. fireuponthedeep

    School Prestige for Industry

    @Stat PhD Now Postdoc haha that's not a problem! And that's a good point to consider, and something I will weigh heavily when making my decision. @GoPack89 Thank you!!!! It felt great when I got the emory acceptance, especially since I was rejected by JHU the prior friday lol. I don't really have any geographic preferences, except for avoiding Texas/south west (Texas is too big and hot, and I don't have much desire to live in the Southwest again). I know it's a shallow reason, but honestly whatever opportunity gives me the greatest financial success + job fulfillment is the largest determinant of where I'd live. I grew up fairly poor, so financial security is pretty important to me. I've bounced around the country so I know I can live happily anywhere (Texas/southwest aside). My concerns with going to a less prestigious school, like IUPUI, would make me less employable, restrict me to only work in Indianapolis, and would make it harder to go back for my PhD, assuming I still desire to do that in 5-8 years. Plus I know plenty of people who've gone to the school for other degrees and it's.....not all that great, so I'm worried about that too lol. But free rent is pretty great!!
  12. fireuponthedeep

    School Prestige for Industry

    @Stat PhD Now Postdoc Thanks for the advice! And I guess it proves how little known it is, but IUPUI is in Indianapolis not Pittsburgh haha. I wouldn't mind being in Indianapolis, especially since Eli Lilly operates there, but I also think I would be geo-restricted to Indiana. Emory does provide financial aid, but they haven't calculated how much, if any, I'll receive, so I'm operating under the assumption of none. The biostatistics department doesn't specifically mention anything about RA's, but it seems like there's a school wide portal for finding those opportunities, so I'll look into that, and reach out to the department as well. Hopefully I can find something that eases the financial burden, as I would really like to go to Emory if the cost is manageable. Thanks again, it is really helpful to get info from someone who has experience in the field!
  13. So, I've been accepted to two MS programs in biostatistics, Emory and Colorado. I have 5 more I'm waiting to hear back from, hopefully get accepted to around 2-3 more of them (guessing IUPUI is a lock, then one or two of Minnesota, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt). The question I'm struggling with is how much the school/program prestige matters for jobs in industry, specifically pharmaceutical. I know school choice matters less for industry, but how much less? I would love to go to Emory, but the cost is quite prohibitive. However, I could live rent free if I went to IUPUI and the program cost is very minimal. The MS program at IUPUI is very new, and tbh not sure about the quality. It seems like most people on this forum are interested in tenured positions at top tier schools, so it's hard to gauge what the optimal school decision for industry would be based on posts found here, as the majority would not consider IUPUI, rightfully so considering their career goals. The Emory acceptance email specifically mentioned a recent MS graduate working in a job similar to the one I eventually want, senior statistician at a pharma company. Would I be better served paying more for a better school? Or is the boost provided by the better school negligible? I'll add that I eventually plan to get my PhD, but only to allow myself to advance in industry, so would getting my masters from a higher ranked school be a better decision for that long term goal as well? Thanks for any input y'all might have, hope your admissions cycle is going well!! Tl;dr: Not sure whether it's better to get masters for cheap from worse school, or expensive better school, want to work in industry. Advice/information greatly appreciated.
  14. fireuponthedeep

    Fall 2019 Statistics Applicant Thread

    I received one too, seems like it was auto sent to all applicants?
  15. Undergrad Institution: Top 60 Liberal Arts Major: Mathematics GPA: 3.76 Major GPA: 3.79 Type of Student: Domestic white Male Relevant Courses: Calc I, II (A-), Linear Algebra (A-), Multivariable Calc (A), Numerical Analysis (A) two lower level calc based stats + probability courses for half credit each (B, A) GRE: 168/164/5.0 (V/Q/A) Research Experience: Essentially none, presented a poster for a course grade in a global health course References: One from Associate professor of biology, one from assistant professor of psychology, then one from a classics professor I was close with and one from college swim coach. Teaching Experience: Worked as a peer tutor for my college for a year, spent a year as an interventionist for AmeriCorp. Programs planning to apply/applied for already: John Hopkins, Wisconsin (Biostats option), UNC, Minnesota, Emory, Colorado, Vanderbilt, IUPUI Hello all, I just recently discovered the amazingness that is gradcafe sadly I did not find it earlier as it would have helped quite a bit. While it's too late to make any major changes since I've already submitted all my applications except for emory/Vanderbilt/iupui, I just wanted to see whether I was being delusional in my school choices or not. I feel like a fairly uninspiring candidate so I'm not terribly confident in any of these schools except for IUPUI. If I'm way out of line I could apply to several lower ranked schools as backups. I think I have pretty strong LORs but the bio and psych professors aren't exactly luminaries in their fields my undergrad was not big on research. And obviously my classics professor and coach don't have any research. Is that damaging for my chances? I also earned a D my first semester in physics, and didn't really address it in my SOPs, quite frankly I don't really have an excuse beyond "I suck at physics lol" so I'm pretty nervous about that hurting me hard. I'm also wondering whether I should take any other math courses, I have the opportunity to Complex Analysis and some other courses for super cheap, but not sure if it's worth the opportunity cost since I already have all the calcs + linear. I'd take Real Analysis but it's not offered this semester. Anyway, thank you for reading this and I'd greatly appreciate any feedback!

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