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ooooohh. tell us everything. It's a good question for the Draft vets. The only way to know is if one has done it - been rejected after an interview. even then it would be hard to be certain.

I feel you. The waiting is rough. when Virginia sent out the unofficial rejection I was so appreciative. It takes so little to be considerate of our time to say nothing of our health. If we all get snail mail rejections form the iww over the next week, that's fine, i bet it. but these institutions that wait weeks after the decisions are made are simply disrespectful. Then there are those that say they're going to make an offer but don't...

that's pretty close.

you know? like, you know know, or you just know? do we have confirmation? a hard done? a computer generated, rubber stamped, embossed and wax sealed "fuck off and leave us alone"?

that's ironic. a lot of my spam/scam numbers come from Nevada. Irvine called me from a Reno number. I almost ignored it but something told me not to. And if you missed it, FAU called me from an Iowa City number.

DUDE! sorry about the wheels. and you're right, super irrational. as long as you're looking at things super irrationally, aren't all these things just as likely to indicate something good is going to happen?

no, this is exactly true. and it's true for anywhere i guess. not the overlooked part. there are programs with such tiny cohorts i don't see how you could be missed. no, finding the right fit is more important that the rep of the school. I'd love to figure out how to do that.

i think i post too much. anyway, i've told everyone here to play to the buzzer. I have an acceptance and a good one and I'm pretty sure it's where I'm going, nevertheless, I'm here till the end. You've all been supportive and inspiring and I'm not giving up on anyone. I'm throwing some thoughts into a document and I'll post it towards the end of the cycle for anyone applying next year. I've learned a lot and would do some things differently and I want to pass it on. I can't promise to help anyone get an acceptance but I'm certain it will help someone handle the journey more effectively. Anything anyone thinks i should address? Questions or things you've learned? no one is behind. I'm 49 forty fucking nine. I drank most of my life and believed i had wasted it. one of my recommenders (who has absolutely no time for bullshit) said it was all part of what got me here. nothing is a waste. I don't know about you, but i'm a better writer just for all the work i did on my essays. jesus it was a lot of writing and under pressure and in a short time. You are all better than you were yesterday. an athlete or a laborer or even a surgeon has a limited time to peak. We have a lot more. just don't stop. hell, you can even take off a cycle, but do not stop writing. and do not ruin the process by making it about something else.

one more thing, use sunscreen.

So long UVA. my achievement of more green than red is done. and we're past the halfway mark.

Yes. But there are programs who distribute funding unequally and some of those may give an offer of an enhanced package which includes a stipend unattached to educational duties.

You know what? I don't even want to go to Iowa anymore. I can't stick with it. There's no gag here.

If rejections go out, I'm sure you'll know. If your mail is being looked after, ask if your mail picker upper sees something from the cornfields.

I'm wondering the same.

Oh, don't let it kill you, baby, don't let it get to you Don't let 'em kill you, baby, don't let 'em get to you I'll be your bleedin' heart, I'll be your cryin' fool Don't let this go too far, don't let it get to you Yeah, yeah (yeah, yeah) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah The waiting is the hardest part Every day you get one more yard You take it on faith, you take it to the heart The waiting is the hardest part Yeah, the waiting is the hardest part

i thought of you as soon as i noticed.

"My guts... have shit for brains."

getting accepted gives you exactly zero insight into these questions so no worries. Honestly, i'm on the NWP waitlist and vs Irvine the ONLY thing I can think of right now is reputation. If I were fortunate enough to get an offer, I'd have numbers to think about. That said, I'm about the work and I don't really see NWP giving me more support than Irvine, but that too might change with a phone call. Here's another thing I wonder about: Why would they not the Michener waitlist from NWP. I know it's logistically difficult but imagine establishing the Michener cohort and then the NWP. i dunno, i'm just listening to my daughter play the worst music ever and spitballing. we're going on a bear hunt we're going on a bear hunt

that would be nice. as far as talking out of one's ass, this is where some of my best thoughts come from.

this very much one of my motivations to starting this discussion. wouldn't exactly that type of hypothetical agent know about NWP and its attachment to Michener? so would there be a difference to them? why or why not? and besides the package, what's the difference to us?

but there are only, what, 25 admits to iowa at all? and that's the holy grail. this year there are multiple admit posts fropm schools with far smaller cohorts. i also figure most of the people who are just applying to their local programs or applying because that's what you do after college, aren't on draft; but most who are in this for all the marbles and have been researching programs for a few years, are. yeah but most of the schools on draft are prestigious. i do tend to think it's a toss up but less so the higher the rep of the school. then there are those evil people who post in the forum but not the spreadsheet. where do you (and others) find out these numbers? i can't find my ass with both hands and a map.

People, can we talk about Michener and NWP? what are the actual differences? same faculty, same university, different offers. other than that, what do we know? Are NWP cohorts prohibited at Dobie? Are there different guest lecturers? What of the course requirements? (I feel like i should know this one but if i ever did, i've forgotten) What about reputation in the business; do agents, publishers, and universities looking for instructors figure they're the same? post any answers or questions because i, for one, have been wondering about this for a year or two.

I've been thinking about this a bunch. there are over 1300 members of draft. not all are applicants but i would say the overwhelming majority are. the fact is there are only so many programs (Anyone know how many) at least 350 and i've heard as many as 500. consider that very few people apply to only one, that there are already well over a thousand responses on the spreadsheet, and that half the well known schools haven't responded and you start to think there's at least a bit you can glean from draft. also, there's a lag. people are STILL only now learning about draft and being admitted there. it's the waitlist odds people would pay money for.

Of course. Why is it always a trickle?

It is never too early to ramble about math. I've been mathing this stuff out since before i applied anywhere. it's fun and frustrating and fun because it's frustrating. Is that what golf is like? are you in the city or on the island because commuting provides time to grade papers and even work yourself. you can factor an hour a day into your time math. it isn't all money math. of course, you have to figure the commute cost into the money math. and don't forget scheduling (I forgot to ask about that for FAU). If you're only commuting three days a week vs five, things change a lot. ooh. I'm excited for you. Do the math. Thanks. My math says something's up. no rejection, no waitlist, no acceptance.