Adelaide9216 Posted August 8, 2021 Posted August 8, 2021 Hello, Who's applying this year ? It's my last shot at this.
BTF Posted August 15, 2021 Posted August 15, 2021 I'll be applying for the first time. Adelaide9216 1
Fazi Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 I am working on my Vanier application right now, but I would like to apply for Trudeau, too! Though I don't know so much about the required documents so far! (I just checked the eligibility and its approximate deadline) I saw that you @Adelaide9216 won the Vanier before! Congrats! In comparison, how much work do you think the Trudeau application need?
Adelaide9216 Posted August 19, 2021 Author Posted August 19, 2021 I feel like the Trudeau application requires less written work than the Vanier. But the Trudeau process seems to be longer because there are multiple interviews to it!
Fazi Posted August 20, 2021 Posted August 20, 2021 @Adelaide9216Thanks! Sounds good, but yes... those interviews look scary! Were you invited to an interview in the previous rounds?
Adelaide9216 Posted August 20, 2021 Author Posted August 20, 2021 No I have not. I have read other people's experiences on this forum though. They do look scary!
Fazi Posted August 20, 2021 Posted August 20, 2021 So, wish you go to this SCARY phase this year and pass it very well! Adelaide9216 1
Adelaide9216 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) Well, it seems like I'm not eligible because I'm a third-year PhD Candidate. It appears that this criteria has changed, it says only accepted, first or second year PhD students Edited October 8, 2021 by Adelaide9216
Fazi Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 Sorry to hear that! Today, my application for Vanier 2022, in the final stage of the university's internal selection, was rejected and I am soooooooo sad and disappointed! I had put lots of time for my application since June! I probably shouldn't expect Trudeau either, but maybe I apply for it.
Adelaide9216 Posted October 15, 2021 Author Posted October 15, 2021 You should always try anyway! You only miss 100% of the shots you don't take as they say!
Adelaide9216 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Posted November 7, 2021 Wow did you see this? https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2021/11/01/why-this-professor-walked-away-from-one-of-the-most-prestigious-organizations-in-canada-and-others-are-tempted-to-do-the-same.html
Polisci_2016 Posted November 13, 2021 Posted November 13, 2021 On 11/7/2021 at 3:54 PM, Adelaide9216 said: Wow did you see this? https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2021/11/01/why-this-professor-walked-away-from-one-of-the-most-prestigious-organizations-in-canada-and-others-are-tempted-to-do-the-same.html Ugh! Sadly, this does not surprise me. I made it to the first round of interviews last year and interviewed a lot of past winners and finalists about their experiences and heard similar stories prior to the interview. I basically heard that the foundation wants people who they can put on posters and make them appear in a very specific way. I did not want to believe it, but when I got to the interview, I was forced to face reality. I thought I had made it to the interview process because of my accomplishments but when I got into the group interview, it became very clear that I was there to represent the “rags to riches” student archetype. In all honesty, I felt kind of used and still feel uncomfortable thinking about the interview. I knew I was there to provide the trauma story. Me, along with three or four other students in the zoom room. It felt like I was competing for the token trauma survivor role, which makes things really uncomfortable for a lot of reasons but the main being I try to lift people up who have experienced what I have been through, but it seemed like the interview process forced people of similar backgrounds to fight for the same tokenistic role. I know this happens elsewhere but it is still disheartening to say the least. I agree with the article in that the foundation creates a hostile environment for marginalized people. In my multi-hour long interview, I definitely felt the tension between wanting to be genuine and wanting to give the foundation what I knew they likely wanted.
MuchSynergyWowSoIntersec Posted November 13, 2021 Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Polisci_2016 said: Ugh! Sadly, this does not surprise me. I made it to the first round of interviews last year and interviewed a lot of past winners and finalists about their experiences and heard similar stories prior to the interview. I basically heard that the foundation wants people who they can put on posters and make them appear in a very specific way. I did not want to believe it, but when I got to the interview, I was forced to face reality. I thought I had made it to the interview process because of my accomplishments but when I got into the group interview, it became very clear that I was there to represent the “rags to riches” student archetype. In all honesty, I felt kind of used and still feel uncomfortable thinking about the interview. I knew I was there to provide the trauma story. Me, along with three or four other students in the zoom room. It felt like I was competing for the token trauma survivor role, which makes things really uncomfortable for a lot of reasons but the main being I try to lift people up who have experienced what I have been through, but it seemed like the interview process forced people of similar backgrounds to fight for the same tokenistic role. I know this happens elsewhere but it is still disheartening to say the least. I agree with the article in that the foundation creates a hostile environment for marginalized people. In my multi-hour long interview, I definitely felt the tension between wanting to be genuine and wanting to give the foundation what I knew they likely wanted. I am hesitant to be overly pessimistic here, but this seems to be a larger trend in academia. While our personal experiences, perspectives and challenges should of course frame the context of our applications for these sorts of things, it's a real bummer that many of these contests have been essentially reduced only to these factors. Edited November 13, 2021 by MuchSynergyWowSoIntersec Adelaide9216 1
Adelaide9216 Posted November 16, 2021 Author Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/12/2021 at 10:55 PM, Polisci_2016 said: Ugh! Sadly, this does not surprise me. I made it to the first round of interviews last year and interviewed a lot of past winners and finalists about their experiences and heard similar stories prior to the interview. I basically heard that the foundation wants people who they can put on posters and make them appear in a very specific way. I did not want to believe it, but when I got to the interview, I was forced to face reality. I thought I had made it to the interview process because of my accomplishments but when I got into the group interview, it became very clear that I was there to represent the “rags to riches” student archetype. In all honesty, I felt kind of used and still feel uncomfortable thinking about the interview. I knew I was there to provide the trauma story. Me, along with three or four other students in the zoom room. It felt like I was competing for the token trauma survivor role, which makes things really uncomfortable for a lot of reasons but the main being I try to lift people up who have experienced what I have been through, but it seemed like the interview process forced people of similar backgrounds to fight for the same tokenistic role. I know this happens elsewhere but it is still disheartening to say the least. I agree with the article in that the foundation creates a hostile environment for marginalized people. In my multi-hour long interview, I definitely felt the tension between wanting to be genuine and wanting to give the foundation what I knew they likely wanted. Oh wow. I'm sorry you had such a negative experience.
Adelaide9216 Posted December 2, 2021 Author Posted December 2, 2021 Where you are at with your applications?
Adelaide9216 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Posted December 23, 2021 Turns out, I'm still eliglble. I've submitted a completed app a few days ago! Fingers crossed now until February. If I don't get it, I'll just rush to complete my dissertation and that's okay.
Fazi Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Hi, I submitted for the first time.. Good luck for all the guys here! Adelaide9216 1
Adelaide9216 Posted January 1, 2022 Author Posted January 1, 2022 11 hours ago, Fazi said: Hi, I submitted for the first time.. Good luck for all the guys here! Good luck!
Adelaide9216 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Posted February 1, 2022 My application says "Review Phase 1 - Evaluation" Anyone else?
fancydance_akira Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 18 hours ago, Adelaide9216 said: My application says "Review Phase 1 - Evaluation" Anyone else? Same here! This is my first time applying Adelaide9216 1
Adelaide9216 Posted February 3, 2022 Author Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) On 2/1/2022 at 3:37 PM, fancydance_akira said: Same here! This is my first time applying Good luck! Edited February 3, 2022 by Adelaide9216
fancydance_akira Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 21 hours ago, Adelaide9216 said: Good luck! The university name listed on my profile keeps changing and it's so funny that they list universities as "company" lolol
Adelaide9216 Posted February 3, 2022 Author Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, fancydance_akira said: The university name listed on my profile keeps changing and it's so funny that they list universities as "company" lolol same here haha
Fazi Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 Hi! I can't see any "Review Phase 1 - Evaluation" in my application.Where do you see it?
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