TorrentOfArdentPathos
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Haha. Where?
In your avatar. How can you not see it?
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"turtle"?
Yep.
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IRTheoryNerd, I love all your gifs and avatars. Especially the current one of a turtle.
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I've been planning a nice pair of dark jeans, a nice tailored extra slim fit dress shirt, and a red blazer.
Well, I guess I know how I'll recognize you if I see you at any visits then ;P
Don't worry wwmiv, I will wear the same thing to help conceal your identity! Let's hope we aren't visiting any of the same schools...
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Because I don't want this thread to be consumed in a debate that prevents it from being the source I information I intended, I won't be engaging in any more discussion about why I started this thread or how we feel about it or if it serves the collective good of GC or whatever we are talking about.
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That is just such a meaningless response. It's like saying "Everyone's entitled to their own opinion!" A completely empty statement that totally ignores the substance of what I was arguing. If you had thought about what I wrote, you might conclude that this thread does a disservice to everyone; I am sorry that you don't care about the collective good of the rest of the users on this forum.
Of course everyone who is lucky enough to receive multiple offers should take any amount of time they need to adequately inform themselves before making a decision about what program to attend. The intention of my post was not to pressure anyone into rushing the difficult choices they face, and I fail to understand how this post is any more an example of "showing off" than celebrating acceptances in the cycle thread or listing acceptances in a signature.
That being said, I feel like the right thing to do is to tell a program as soon as you definitely know you are not going to accept their offer. This allows them to adjust their expectations of yield and inform waitlisters sooner rather than later (which can affect their ability to attend visiting weekend, and more importantly, their ability to have the time to fully consider all their options).
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Hi. This thread is for people to post offers that they decline. This should be useful (and a source of many clicks) for those of us on waitlists.
I have declined an offer from Illinois (IR subfield).
Good luck to anyone else waiting to hear back on a waitlist!
Edit: If you are willing, please include your subfield.
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I have declined an admissions offer from Illinois (IR subfield).
Thought the waitlisted should know. Should I make a thread for people to post this (so those waiting to hear back on a WL have somewhere they can obsessively check)?
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Under "messaging"
I see nothing there. Unofficial wait-list?
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The UCSD is me
Congrats! Was it a form email, or a personalized one?
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cool man. i am IPE/Methodology, empirical. How about you?
IR Security / Methods. I thought Rochester might have been a tough get for me. I have a solid econometrics background, but my FT background is limited to an undergrad microecon sequence and my math background is fairly weak.
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anyone who get rejection would like to tell me how to update the status?
I mean, when I log in, in the page
"
Application Status for SteedyueASE Fall 2014 Political Science PhD
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I see nothing.
no offer, no rejection, no update.
no way man another waitinglist?
WHAT SHOULD I DO WITH IT
I also have no updated status.
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Y'all are sticks in the mud.
On a related note: this is a very important topic, actually. And one that I struggle with every time a professor writes me. Worth asking: what will you expect of students when you're in the professor shoes? Perhaps more importantly, what type of shoes are professor shoes?
I am of the "casual, first-name basis" perspective once a professor has signed an email with their first name, but I strongly value a casual, open relationship with an advisor. I may be doing it more to signal the kind of a relationship I want than because I think its the social convention.
When the "professor shoes" on are the other foot, they won't be: I'll be so casual with my students that I won't even be wearing shoes!
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You're looking in the right place...
Ahh, ok. Thanks.
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So... I logged into my Rochester account and it looks the same as the day I submitted my application. Is there somewhere I should be checking my status? (I don't even see a "Status Pending" or anything so I am not sure if I am looking at the right thing...).
Also, congrats to all the acceptances the last couple of days!
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Did anyone notice that on his vita (http://www.socsci.uci.edu/~bgrofman/WUFFLECV.html) Wuffle claims to have been born in '60 and to have received his PhD in '72? Dude's a genius!
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My beef with visitation is mostly the evasive discussions of placement. I was accepted at 2 places. I visited both. Both programs that otherwise have a very quantitative focus (particularly in my subfield - American) suddenly became very qualitative when the topic of placement came up. Anecdotes of great placements are quickly recalled, but no one mentions the other great students that didn't get any offers and are now on their second post-doc.
The reality when you are in a program like this one (upper teens / low twenties in the rankings) is that about two thirds of a cohort will defend dissertations. Of those, about half will find tenure track jobs. Most importantly, it varies quite a bit by subfield and by advisor. When you visit, ask specific questions about subfield placement. "How many Americanists were on the market last year? How many placed and where?" You might have a very good idea of who your advisor might be. Ask her about her placement record. "Who was your most recent student to finish? Where did he go?"
When you are visiting you are in the driver's seat. Ask for more money. Ask for a longer guarantee. Unless you set fire to the building during your visit they won't rescind the admissions offer. After the admission offer and before you accept is the only time for the next six years that you are in the dominant position.
How do you think that most programs would respond to a request for a list of all placements, students who defended, and students who entered for the last X years? (Or if I asked directly for the placement and attrition ratios I'm clearly after?)
I feel like that is a reasonable request, but you seem to be implying that you had trouble getting more than anecdotes...
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AHHHHHHHH! Too much anxiety.
13 users are currently reading this topic. That's a lot.
TMCB, are you reading Bear's post in results as implying that the OSU results aren't legit (because they don't interview)?
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When I wake up : Feeling pretty confident. "I have a kick-ass SoP with research questions that will make the adcoms think. It will help me stick out from the pack. They will realize that I love research and can work independently. I will get in somewhere."
After reading gradcafe and realizing what awesome applicants there are: "I'll be lucky if I get ANY acceptances. I don't have a BA/MA in Math, Statistics, or Economics. I just re-read the SOP I submitted - What was I thinking when I wrote that?!?"
I oscillate between those two extremes in fractions of a second.
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For me, option (a) seems like a distant third.
If I am lucky enough to be admitted to multiple programs, I'd want the opportunity to attend each program's official visit before making a decision. Meeting potential cohorts is a possible decision-changer. Additionally, I feel like attending the official opening may give a better sense of the departmental culture than an individual visit designed only around my interests and the people I wanted to meet.
Maybe I am "out of touch" with the priorities of other potential students, but I wouldn't bat an eye at having to miss a few days of school or work to gain more information before making one of the most important decisions of my professional life. Similarly, unpleasant weather is unlikely to dissuade me from attending a program I thought was my best choice otherwise.
Also, Gnome's polling idea seems great, assuming you can wait that long before setting the date.
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I should add—speaking only for myself!—that additional persons of interest don't really do much for me if they're not a solid fit. I care whether you've correctly identified a primary advisor who's a good fit for you. Beyond that, I'd rather read more statement of purpose than read an increasingly tenuous story about how the entire subfield consists of persons of interest.
This is something that I struggled with. I felt compelled to mention additional POIs, but could never figure out how much to talk about them. I didn't want to spend as much space on them as I did my primary POIs, but I didn't want to merely list names with no additional details either.
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Out of curiosity.. single spaced or double?
Double. I assumed that's the norm (and therefore what the page limits refer to).
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I doubt there's a uniform answer to this. In our case, the recommended length (which I think is 2pp) is well below the committee's tl;dr length, so going over by a bit to include something meaningful would be a good idea.
Specific-to-my-situation-follow-up: is 3.5 pages below the OSU committee's tl;dr length?
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I have a question that my mentors have given me mixed feedback on:
How important is it to stick to the recommended length for personal statements?
I have been told by one mentor that I should cut my PS to make sure that I am within the recommended length. Another told me that I should not cut anything meaningful out of my statement, even if that means ignoring the recommended length.
Declined Offers, 2013-2014 Cycle
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Yes it is. I have imagined myself at each program I have applied to, and I wouldn't have applied if I didn't truly want to go there. It's been harder for me to decline the program I have (or to consider declining programs I am leaning against, but have not entirely ruled out) than I would have ever thought.
When you prepare an application, you identify the unique strengths of a program, you identify who you would work with there, and (at least in my case) you think about what courses you'd take in the first years and what life in that city would be like. It is hard to give up on any of those "potential futures."