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staxdo_21 reacted to a post in a topic: Tufts or UC Irvine or Hunter?
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staxdo_21 reacted to a post in a topic: Funding Doc for Art History
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slouching reacted to a post in a topic: Advice for 2020 college graduate
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I second taking some time off between your BA and your MA/PhD. To be candid: I am currently in a PhD program and there is a stark contrast between those who worked between degrees and those who went straight through to graduate school. The latter are intense and driven students, but TBH I have noticed that many (but not all) have trouble connecting with their peers or discussing anything outside of academia. My time spent working as a freelance art critic, in restaurants, and as a curatorial assistant really gave me the time/space to think deeply about why I wanted to pursue graduate school and to develop some much needed social skills. If you're aiming to be a curator, the art of conversation is a really important asset to have under your belt. Working in between programs also completely changed the focus of my research, which led to a strong statement of purpose. If you're wondering what to do in between now and applying, try pitching a few reviews to Hyperallergic or a local/regional arts magazine that you follow. You can strengthen your writing skills, but also remain informed of the exhibitions/artists in your field. If you're writing a senior thesis, you could also rework part/parts of it to submit to a local or regional conference (sometimes they have a "student spotlight" if you don't feel like your research is up-to-par, but you still want feedback and the CV line). You would be surprised how many curators and academics worked as social media managers/library aids/front desk associates/etc. before starting grad school. That was my favorite part about entering my current program: realizing that all of these insanely smart and talented people had worked odd jobs while writing for Art in America and Artforum (in anticipation of applying to a PhD program). But, if you have the momentum, and you feel ready, don't talk yourself out of applying. It's an expensive process though, so make sure you weigh the pros and cons of doing it now versus later when you have more experience and a solid statement of purpose.
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arthistorygc reacted to a post in a topic: Help with finding professors/programs for my area of study?
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Help with finding professors/programs for my area of study?
Noscrubs replied to arthistorygc's topic in Art History
Are you thinking global, or specifically North America? If the latter, check out the faculty lists at UCSB, UC Berkeley, Bard, and U Delaware. Just a starting point. When applying I had similar interests--I wasn't really keen on theory-based programs (museum work being my ultimate goal). -
It's a new-ish program, no? I can't find a solid placement record for their PhD grads... Their current students seem to publish and present frequently, though. I was on a conference panel with a UCSC student and their research was interesting and unique. Your best bet would be to contact current students and ask them what the atmosphere is like--I found this most helpful when considering where to apply. Are they all fully funded? Is there a lot of competition for funding and external fellowships? Are the faculty supportive of their students?
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Thanks for your honesty. For those still weighing their options, U Del's delayed response is very unfortunate.
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Interesting. Thanks for the info--seems like they have some communication hiccups!
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I emailed them yesterday and was told that while they have sent out acceptances, all other notifications will go out after April 15th. I find this a tad unethical, as most schools require you to accept financial packages by that date. I just accepted an offer at another school, but was curious to hear back since it was the only program to which I applied that failed to send any form of notification.
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"It might also be helpful to ask program advisors/directors where recent graduates have ended up in the last few years. (I.e., did they get curatorial positions in museums? Move on to PhD programs? exit the industry? etc.)" This. There seem to be a lot of Hunter M.A. grads who have curatorial positions. So, if that's what you're seeking, Hunter might be a great option. If you decide to pursue a PhD in art history later on having an MFA could make your application process more challenging. While many programs now recognize the benefits of MFA-->PhD candidates, more traditional schools may not be as accommodating. Also: I will be firm in saying do not take out an exorbitant amount of debt for your M.A. unless you have someone (parent, partner) who can support you after graduation, or you're willing to work outside the field. Not only are jobs few and far between, but they often don't pay well. (Just my opinion, though!) Congrats on your three acceptances--that's super exciting!
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Anyone want to claim that U Del rejection? Haven't heard either way--just curious.
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arsgratiartis reacted to a post in a topic: Fall 2018
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Swamp_demon reacted to a post in a topic: Fall 2018
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I completely rewrote my SOP. Granted, the first time I applied I had little experience, compared to this year. Also my interests and scholarship evolved so I made sure to really communicate how and why. Also, I think I now realize that my SOP from 2 years ago was totally weird and came across as too theoretical. It didn't demonstrate how I am interested in applying my scholarship, just that I enjoyed studying a particular topic! I didn't change my writing sample because it was my M.A. thesis (and a lot of blood, sweat, and tears went into it and I am super proud of it). The topic isn't something I'm currently pursuing, or plan to in my PhD program, but I made sure to touch on how it helped me arrive at my current interests.
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I think they were implying that 11,000 people applied to the Graduate Division of Arts and Sciences or whatever (at least that's what my rejection letter made it sound like).
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I would think PhD programs might be more inclined to accept someone with teaching experience than curatorial experience--but I guess it depends on the program? Good luck in your application season! It sounds like you have a lot of great experience.
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RomeSweetRome reacted to a post in a topic: Fall 2018
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displayname343q reacted to a post in a topic: Fall 2018
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This is my second time applying to graduate programs. The first time around I received all rejections (I applied to 13 programs. Just a tip: don't do that). I took two years off in between my M.A. and applying again, and I'm glad I did. I wrote exhibition reviews, worked as a freelance research assistant, presented at a few major conferences (which allowed me to really develop my interests) and later received a pretty prestigious year-long fellowship. These experiences helped me to strengthen my application and prove to admissions committees that I was really committed to my scholarship and my field. I came from a low-tier program, so the extra experience probably helped demonstrate that I wasn't just a mediocre student. My M.A. adviser also helped me meet new people in my field, constantly sent me opportunities, and was there when I needed guidance and support (even after I graduated). Those two years were productive, but also marked with lots of anxiety, depression, and self-doubt. Like, I was working customer service during the day and writing my conference presentations at night. It's really hard to be an independent researcher and writer without affiliation. If you find small but meaningful opportunities related to your area of interest (or a good museum job or teaching/tutoring position), and keep updating your CV during that gap year, it can pay off!
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I would also be interested in hearing from others regarding proper attire. I’m planning on dressing like I would for work: black jeans, nice shoes/boots, maybe a blouse and black blazer? I mean, is a suit TOO much? My POI’s at both schools are fairly casual from what I can tell, but I am terrified of showing up underdressed. HALP.
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I thought the same thing about the acceptance board this year, in general. So many decisions are rolling in earlier than previous years...
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I'm trying to remain hopeful, but my gut instinct tells me that if we weren't contacted by Penn for an interview by now the chance of acceptance is slim. Same goes for Northwestern. Harvard doesn't do interviews, FYI. Sending y'all good vibes. Wine helps.