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  1. Well, that's good news, I think. I guess if I don't get funding I could at least get admitted and then defer until 2022. That would give me some time to try to secure funding.
  2. Does anyone have a feel for how the pandemic is affecting funding/admissions for classics programs for the 2021 cycle? I am struggling with making decisions right now. My eventual goal is to get an MA in Classical Archaeology in order to pursue museum work (yes, I realize that I will likely need a PhD to curate, but I am not experienced enough to apply for one just yet). After being interviewed for two assistantships through the museum affiliated with the school that I was planning to attend this fall, only to have their funding pulled and no one hired because of the pandemic, I am very discouraged. My thought was that I would begin applications for the 2021 cycle, but now I am unsure if the stress, time and expenditure would be worth it for a cycle with decreased admissions and funding opportunities. I quite simply cannot afford graduate school without funding. Although I have decent GRE scores (at least, verbal and writing), two bachelor's degrees with very high GPAs, archaeology lab experience, museum work experience, and teaching experience...I do not have a background in Greek/Latin or in archaeology courses geared specifically towards ancient history. Although I do spend about three hours a day studying Latin and am making decent progress, I realize that this might not impress an admissions committee without a list of ancient literature that I have read/studied. Do I go ahead and apply for 2021 and hope for the best? I do have a chance of at least being admitted to some of the programs that I have on my list. Or should I just put it off for yet another year and spend that time making myself a more competitive candidate and, thus, broaden the number of programs to which I could apply?
  3. You are not stupid. This stuff is incredibly convoluted, and especially hard if you have no one to guide you. So, I'm am still learning things, too, but I have been dealing with this graduate school stuff for a couple of years now. For context, I am applying to M.A. programs in Classical Archaeology for the fall of 2021 and I would like to curate, which means that I'll probably also need a Ph.D. Let's talk funding. I have been told by multiple people, professors included, that I should not pay for graduate school. In fact, I decided to not go to graduate school this year because of this. I was accepted by the school that I wanted to go to and had been interviewed for two of the three assistantships that I applied to, but then funding was pulled because of the pandemic and no one was going to be hired. I don't know what your debt from your undergraduate degree looks like, but personally I am not willing to go further into massive debt for a career that will not likely pay me a lot anyway. I feel like what you said about being scammed by the system is correct; it's like for undergrad where they get 18 year old students to sign for massive amounts of debt when they don't really understand the terms or the ramifications. But don't get me started on that. As for what funding would cover, that really depends. Every field is different in terms of funding - some have more available, some have less. While researching graduate programs I have seen a huge difference in what is offered by different programs. For example, some offer assistantships (teaching or research) to every admitted student, which include a full tuition waiver, a modest stipend to help with living expenses, and even health insurance (these are the ones I am focusing on). Others might offer all of this, but a waiver for only half tuition. Some might only offer funding to those applying for the Ph.D. program. I've also seen some (usually schools that are full of themselves and cater mostly to the wealthy) that insist on you paying for the first year of your program outright and then MAYBE you'll get an assistantship. You really just have to do your research and ask questions, because this stuff is not always on the program's website. Now lets talk about England. I remember one of my professors warning me about going to graduate school in England and I wish I could remember why. I think it had something to do with that making it more difficult to get hired in the U.S.? Like, the way archaeology students are taught over there is vastly different? In any case, you should be able to find graduate programs in the U.S. that have a focus on your particular interests. With Classical Archaeology, I find that pretty much all graduate programs have professors that run field schools abroad or exchange programs with European universities, etc. If you're doing archaeology, odds are that you can find a way to get yourself overseas. Lastly, are you planning to pursue a Ph.D.? Consider that a one year program is kind of short and you might want to look up the pros/cons of a one year versus a two year program. If you do want a Ph.D., you'll want a graduate program that gives you the option to write a thesis. I'm not sure, but I don't think a lot of one year programs do that. Anyway, I hope this was helpful. Feel free to message me if you have other questions or need help organizing information to compare grad. programs, etc. My life in quarantine basically consists of me living and breathing graduate school nonsense.
  4. Haha, thanks! Doesn't the light at the end of the tunnel mean that I have to die first, though? I'll probably be dead by the time I get to go to graduate school.
  5. Thank you for your input! Villanova is actually on my short list, so I'm glad to hear that they have a good program. I hope to move for my master's degree, so I suppose my main concern with living in PA is that the overall cost of living is somewhat high? I'm also looking at schools that have a Museum Studies Certification of some sort. I feel like that will make me more marketable once I start job searching.
  6. To add on to the above question, does anyone have any information about Queen's University? I am from the U.S., so my knowledge of Canadian universities and their reputations is somewhat limited.
  7. Not discouraging at all - I like people to give it to me straight. 😉 I have found multiple programs in classical arch. that either only require experience in Latin OR Greek, some that will let you by with very little experience, and others that require no languages at all. (Of course all of this is contingent on you rectifying the situation during the program.) I've been systematically contacting all of them to see exactly what their requirements are and it really just depends on the program what they'll let you get away with. I should have at least five schools to apply to that might take me. I was already accepted to the one that I had wanted to attend for this fall, but then the funding that I was hoping to get fell through because of the pandemic. This being said, I am currently working on the situation by teaching myself Latin. I should be done with Wheelock's Latin and reading lower level Latin literature in March, which will give me some experience by the time I start a graduate program. I did want to do a post-bac. but, like you said, they are expensive and I can't afford it. x_x
  8. I am hoping to find a solid research topic before I (hopefully) start graduate school in the fall of 2021. If I were to be able to think of something before I submit applications for this cycle that would be even better! While looking at advice for finding research topics, I have often seen that I need to read "the literature", so would anyone have some resources for recent publications, etc. for classical archaeology?
  9. Yes, as long as I can also have a hand in research, I am willing to take on some administrative duties if that will help me. I was hoping to get into an M.A. program at a school where I could also get a Museum Studies Certification. I thought that might make me more marketable? Ultimately I am more interested in the research/educating the public side of curation, though.
  10. Honestly, I'm pretty discouraged. I graduated with my B.A. in 2011 and it took me some time to figure out what I really wanted to do (shouldn't have let people push me towards college right after high school). Then I realized that, to be decently prepared and get into a M.A. program, I needed a second bachelor's degree. Originally I planned to start graduate school in the fall of 2019, but there was a scheduling issue with a course for my B.S. and I wasn't able to graduate until this past December. I did actually get into the school that I wanted to go to for the fall of 2019, but deferred until fall of 2020. What's even worse is that I got interviews for two of the three assistantships that I applied for, only to be told a month after these interviews that they weren't going to be hiring anyone (I'm assuming because of pandemic related funding issues). I can't afford graduate school without funding (see debt for two bachelor's degrees) and I can't defer admission to this school more than once, so I get to reapply. All this to go into a field that is going to be difficult to find a job in and will likely not pay a ton once/if I get there. It sucks because it took me so much agonizing to figure out what I wanted to do.
  11. My background is a B.A. in English with a minor in violin performance and a B.S. in Anthropology with a focus in archaeology. Due to my lack of experience with Latin/Greek, I'm guessing that a Ph.D. in classical archaeology without a M.A. first would just not happen. Therefore, I am applying to master's programs that have no language requirements or who might make exceptions for students whose main interest is material culture rather than language. I am attempting to teach myself Latin and hope to be done with Wheelock's Latin before starting a master's program, but obviously that isn't going to get me into a Ph.D. In order to curate, is it a definite that I would need a Ph.D.? Would it be possible to find a low level curation position with an M.A.? Could I find a job that might fund me to get a Ph.D.? I honestly feel pretty discouraged about the whole thing, given the present situation with the pandemic. I was so close this year to attending the school I wanted to go to and was even interviewed for two of the three assistantships for which I applied. Then they told me that no one was getting hired, presumably because of pandemic-related funding issues.
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