habanero Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I accepted an offer at a school, and now I need to decline other schools! What is the most respectful way to do this? I found a few other threads, but I'd like to get some new & fresh ideas. habanero, ANDS!, Helpplease123 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDS! Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) I doubt you're going to get any "fresh" takes on these because the consensus is the same: "Dear so-and-so, Thank you for reviewing my application; however I have accepted an offer from University X." There is no reason to over complicate it, and likely whomever is in charge of grad admissions is just going to check mark your name off and move on. Edited March 21, 2012 by ANDS! cynder, habanero, fanon_fanatic and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habanero Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 I doubt you're going to get any "fresh" takes on these because the consensus is the same: "Dear so-and-so, Thank you for reviewing my application; however I have accepted an offer from University X." There is no reason to over complicate it, and likely whomever is in charge of grad admissions is just going to check mark your name off and move on. While I do agree that your email may be appropriate for the program admission supervisor, I think that it'd be best to put a bit more effort into the emails to professors. They spent a lot of time trying to get us to work with them. I don't see this as overcomplicating the situation; we should certainly keep a good working relationship with people who will be our colleagues. EasyDeezy, O1O11OOO1O1, habanero and 6 others 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDS! Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Well then by all means, craft personalized emails for these instructors you have had these substantive conversations with who I am quite sure will remember you in 5 or 10 years. pelevinfan, GRAPEFRUITS, habanero and 38 others 9 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroGal Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I think offers mean a lot more to the applicant than they do to the admissions committee because the students are investing their entire lives into this whereas the school is investing a few years, if that at all. They don't really care and don't take it personally. I think what matters is that you tell them in a timely manner as it is more respectful that way. You can follow up with the people who interviewed you, but I don't think it's entirely necessary unless they thought you were going to join their lab. cmr26 and NeuroGal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stately Plump Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I wouldn't worry about it too much. As said, most schools will cross you off the list and accept someone off the wait-list, thus potentially making that person's year. I probably will send personal emails to the professors I met with while I was at my prospective schools. Nothing too fancy, just thanking them for their time, telling them how pleased I was with their faculty, etc. I'm kinda going to throw the whole, "It's not you, it's me" thing at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDS! Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I wouldn't worry about it too much. As said, most schools will cross you off the list and accept someone off the wait-list, thus potentially making that person's year. I probably will send personal emails to the professors I met with while I was at my prospective schools. Nothing too fancy, just thanking them for their time, telling them how pleased I was with their faculty, etc. I'm kinda going to throw the whole, "It's not you, it's me" thing at them. Exactly. Perhaps people want to over complicate things because it is a big step in their life, and each action demands some grand gesture. Unless you're an exceptional candidate and the department went out of their way to recruit you (read: did they do anything they didn't do, or wont do again, to another candidate) a simple email suffices. But hey I'm sure someone will come along and tell the OP what they want to hear: personalized hand written cards (perhaps scented) expressing deepest regrets and the hope that this doesn't completely shatter their graduate program. grlu0701, stablecamel, psychgurl and 32 others 8 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wine in coffee cups Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 After I had gotten into a few programs I really liked, about a month ago I tried to decline a department that was not nearly as good a fit (location, size) but that had offered me a special fellowship. I took the recommended simple approach with a short but warm email. I just wanted to do the right thing and free up a spot and funding for someone else, you know? The director would have none of that, though, and proceeded to engage me into some borderline aggressive email back-and-forths about why I turned them down, where I was thinking of going, etc. The director made some incredible overtures during this and ended up telling me I had a standing offer for future years if I realized I made a mistake and wanted to transfer. It was really flattering, to be sure, but also incredibly draining and stressful to keep doing this volleying and continue justifying my decision not to go in the face of all this generosity. I'm honestly still not sure if they've crossed me off the list yet because I'm still getting inane snail mail from the grad school about immunizations. So, yeah, I wish it were always as easy as a short email. I'd still recommend that, I guess, but be prepared to defend your decision if they bristle. snowies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habanero Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 But hey I'm sure someone will come along and tell the OP what they want to hear: personalized hand written cards (perhaps scented) expressing deepest regrets and the hope that this doesn't completely shatter their graduate program. ANDS!: I am sure you mean well, but many of your posts seem to have a severely negative tone. I was drawn to TheGradCafe.com for the supportive and positive environment. I think that many other posters feel the same way about this forum. In the future, I would prefer that you refrain from responding to my posts if you cannot be cordial. fanon_fanatic, pelevinfan, papillon_pourpre and 22 others 19 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosamundReage Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I agree that a simpIe email to the program as a whole is all that is required, but think it is definitely a good idea to email all the POIs and to tell them that unfortunately you will be declining the offer. I would thank them for their time and mention that you really wanted to work with them and hope to see them at conferences. It may not be completely necessary, but it is good to build connections in academia no matter what some of the other posters have said. These people may be on a hiring committee or in a program you would like to do a post-doc, so it always good to follow up and thank them. habanero, DeeLovely79, yaey and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDS! Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 ANDS!: I am sure you mean well, but many of your posts seem to have a severely negative tone. There is no negative tone. It is simply me not shining you on; you asked for opinions, I gave you one which you reject out of hand which lead me to conclude you don't actually want opinions just validation for a decision you have already made. Nature of the beast. I was drawn to TheGradCafe.com for the supportive and positive environment. I amended my recommendation to be more in line what you were seeking. . .did you not see? stablecamel, elbow2332, psychgurl and 32 others 10 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXTiger2012 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 If you had no one-on-one contact with professors, the short email to admissions is fine. But I agree that if you've had extended correspondence with one or two professors at an institution, its only polite to send them a more personal email letting them know your decision. It doesn't have to be long, just clearly sent to them alone. A simple "Thank you very much for the help you've been during this process. I've chosen to attend ABC University, but I very much hope to see you at conference/meetings/etc in the future. Best of luck with the rest of your semester..." There's no need to gush, and as others have said, unless you're a prodigy they probably aren't crushed you've chosen another university. But I feel safe in saying that they will remember a student they invested even a small amount of time in, and were then never informed of a decision, or thanked for their help. snowies and R Deckard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosamundReage Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 There is no negative tone. It is simply me not shining you on; you asked for opinions, I gave you one which you reject out of hand which lead me to conclude you don't actually want opinions just validation for a decision you have already made. Nature of the beast. I amended my recommendation to be more in line what you were seeking. . .did you not see? I agree with the OP that your posts in this thread have been pretty negative. I don't think the OP was trying to get advice to send "handwritten scented cards" as you suggested in the last post, but to get some advice of what to say to POIs from a rejected program. I think it is bad advice to tell someone that a professor that they have been in contact and accepted them to work with will not want to hear from them. As we all know grad school is extremely competitive and often professors in a program will only pick one or two students that they would like to work with and will suggest them for admittance. Professors often spend a significant amount of time fighting for certain students and it would be unwise to not send an email thanking them for their support and telling them of your final decision. Helpplease123, RosamundReage, anonyouknow and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDS! Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 (edited) I think it is bad advice to tell someone that a professor that they have been in contact and accepted them to work with will not want to hear from them. Agreed. Thankfully that's not what I said. . .at all. Edited March 22, 2012 by ANDS! Final_countdown321, eheard, anonyouknow and 16 others 3 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenePony Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I like what TXTiger2012 said, a short, respectful email is probably the best way to go. I made sure to thank them for the offer, say that it was a difficult decision, etc. I did not say exactly what program I did accept but did say I was staying domestic for my husband's work (which was the main reason). And I disagree that POI won't necessarily remember you in however many years, there is no reason to burn bridges by not keeping them informed, it really seems like common courtesy to me. My offer rejection email was fairly short, maybe 7 sentences. It kept it short enough that if they didn't care they could get the idea of it quickly, but explained enough that it didn't seem like I was rejecting them out of hand and respected their offer and their time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDS! Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 The only way one burns bridges with the customary "Thank you for the opportunity but I've decided to go elsewhere. . ." email is if the person you are responding to is pretty petty in the first place. If an applicant had more of a connection that warranted just a "teensy bit extra" in the email, by all means have it; however (at least from the mouths of faculty I've spoken with), applicants run the risk of saying the wrong thing or simply expounding on things they don't need to. habanero, RosamundReage, intirb and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snes Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I think a short, concise email will be fine. I also think a slightly longer, more personalized email will be fine, too, especially if you've been having conversations with these professors over the course of the app season. Just don't go overboard, obviously. Anyway, when I have to send out my own "rejection" emails, I'll probably opt for the more personalized approach, because I have been seriously hounding these poor POIs with questions and they've donated a lot of their time and very helpful/honest opinions to me and my crazy indecisiveness. This year, after writing a personalized withdraw email to a master's program, the prof responded with congratulations and tips on which PhD program I should choose for my interests! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark1989 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Similar dilemma. I've been accepted at many places by the profs working in my area. Moreover, I've spoken multiple times with these guys, so I've to be a little careful here. Also, these profs know my reference writers pretty well. Some of these profs went out of the way to offer me an admission, like calling me just two days after I submitted the application. Any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDS! Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Similar dilemma. I've been accepted at many places by the profs working in my area. Moreover, I've spoken multiple times with these guys, so I've to be a little careful here. Also, these profs know my reference writers pretty well. Some of these profs went out of the way to offer me an admission, like calling me just two days after I submitted the application. Any advice? Now this is a situation that would merit a more in depth explanation of why you've decided to travel elsewhere. The person you've spoken with has obviously invested more than the average amount of time in getting to know you and your suitability for their program and working with them, and has connections to people already in your network (which isn't out of the ordinary, but if you're talking multiple connections. . .) I would pow-wow with your current advisors, or whomever is writing your letters and ask them - since they seem to know these professors personally/professionally - what might best be the approach to take with each of these professors. jeffster, Helpplease123, cynder and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpplease123 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I accepted an offer at a school, and now I need to decline other schools! What is the most respectful way to do this? I found a few other threads, but I'd like to get some new & fresh ideas. I don't think you need to worry too much about getting new and fresh ideas. It feels like a big deal for us, definitely, I never thought i'd be in a position to decline offers but this happens to schools every year, they are used to people going other places or taking students from programs themselves... As long as you are polite and let the grad school itself know, as well as any POI who made an effort in some way on your application (not just someone you asked some questions though). A brief, "sorry i'm going somewhere else but it wasn't an easy decision, thanks for your help" should be fine. In fact, I would recommend you do this soon, rather than spend a long time trying to craft something more in depth and personal. A program I declined a few days ago emailed me back a lovely message and also mentioned exactly that - letting them know asap makes their lives a heck of a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habanero Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Ok all, thank you for the advice. I said something along the lines of: Dear X, Thank you for your interest/time/etc. X University is amazing, and I had such a good time/X/XXX/whatever. It has been a difficult decision, but I've decided to attend XX. I very much look forward to seeing you at X conference. +something personal Best, HABANERO gurlsaved, Final_countdown321, snes and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habanero Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Oh my good heavens...forever more will I wonder who could have possibly voted that innocent comment down. anonyouknow, cynder, ANDS! and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycrefugee Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Ive considered taking some lines from an admissions rejection email i've received and using them when I email schools to tell them I will not be going there. Something like: Thank you for your interest in me for your graduate program at -. I have given it careful consideration but regret to inform you that I will not be accepting your offer of admission. I realize this news may be disappointing to you, but I received offers from an unusually large number of well qualified schools and ultimately can only accept one. You will receive official notification by regular postal service. Haha, perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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