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Um, can the person who just got the acceptance to Columbia's clinical psych program (TC?) please post their lab? The interview literally just ended tonight. Wtf. Faculty are meeting next week. Can do it anonymously if you're uncomfortable
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On 2/5/2019 at 8:03 AM, FreudEgg said:
Congrats on the interview, I'm sorry it didn't go as you hoped. I think you could write in your thank you that you didn't feel quite yourself and ended up being more nervous than you anticipated. Maybe you could say you thought more about x idea or question and feel like it is better articulated by saying x. But I think it's something to really think through and send a thoughtful follow-up to show the strengths that maybe you didn't get to fully display. We are all human, and hopefully your PI realizes how stressful this whole thing is! But! That being said, are you someone who doesn't give yourself the benefit of the doubt/ is quick to be self-critical? Maybe it wasn't as awkward as you thought and your PI didn't think twice about any of it and was actually impressed by you! I think try as hard as possible to be objective about what you said/didn't say, and what you would say to someone else in your position. Do you have a mentor or anyone like that who would be a good sounding board? Good luck!!
Hey, I ended up doing this and the PI said I seemed composed and not nervous at all, lol. I'm definitely self-critical but that's because I had a good sense of my baseline. In any event, I appreciate your response
I'm finally done with interviews and one thing I'm starting to believe is that, it doesn't matter how well you think an interview went. For clinical psych, at least, the PIs are trained to become active listeners and nodding or smiling doesn't necessarily mean that they agree. Could just mean for you to go on. And, honestly, once you're at the interview stage, you're probably with equally qualified candidates. Everyone's interview, or at least their conversations, will go very well.
Thus, I think it's better to think of it as 'not terrible,' or 'not bad.' That way, you don't get your hopes up.
I thought I absolutely nailed an interview, to learn that I interviewed for a spot that was already taken months in advance. I'm seeing this trend more and more, hearing it through other candidates' experiences, so I'm done thinking I can predict the admissions process. Just do your best, and hope your personality 'FiTs WiTh tHeiR LaB'.
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1 hour ago, checkingmyemail said:
When you're patiently waiting on additional offers.............. so you can release an offer to someone who may be anxiously on a wailist..................... This process is brutal and unfair af, to everyone involved honestly.
Faculty too! They have to make such difficult decisions arghhhhh so much to lose
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28 minutes ago, round2_ said:
I don't get what Duke's system is here... I still haven't gotten anything official from them
Have tried to reach their secretary/admin/staff for weeks and no pickup or response. I'm not convinced they're a real school.
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Necro'd a thread when you could've just privately messaged them.
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Can the person who was just accepted to Stony Brook post their PI/more details?
I was told by my PI that the faculty would meet next week to discuss admissions offers and that I would hear back after that. So, I’m shocked to see an(other) acceptance already handed out...
Found out through twitter that a girl was accepted already lol
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9 hours ago, Sosorider said:
So I'm kinda freaking out right now.... its February and I haven't heard anything from John Jay, U of A, texas tech or Drexel. I applied to clinical psychology PhD. Should I start applying for my masters instead? My GRE was average, 3.91 GPA and 8 publications.
if you have 8 publications i wouldnt go for a masters. just 'better' research experience
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On 2/5/2017 at 8:00 PM, ellieotter said:
Any advice on what to write (besides thank you obviously)? I didn't want to write a novel and sound like a suck up!
I've written novels before. I'd rather risk making a bad impression with typing a wall of text of research ideas and what I thought about the program, than making a generic / no impression at all. They might not like that side of me, but if I'm working with them for 5+ years or for the rest of my life, I want them to know how and what I think. I don't want to 'trick' them into accepting me by leaving out critical details; I want them to take me as I am. You're taking a risk by sending them a long email and revealing potentially bad aspects of yourself. But they're taking a risk by investing in a student for 5+ years. I tell myself that my transparency helps, but I also totally understand why most people wouldn't want to be a weirdo messy over-sharer like me.
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On 2/7/2019 at 3:52 PM, Keyz said:
So I wasn’t personally asked this question, but one of my fellow applicants was asked by their POI what they would consider doing for their dissertation and how they would go about constructing it. If I was asked that question I would be extremely perplexed because that’s something I haven’t even finalized thinking about yet and even the other grad students were confused as to why it was asked. In any case, at least be prepared for that.
I knew a question like this would come up so I prepared for it.
A professor asked where I applied. Then asked about a specific school. Then whether I was invited to the school.
It was uncomfortable.
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8 minutes ago, petitebiscuit said:
Hey there! For those of you who have been housed with other graduate students while on your interview or visit:
What have your sleeping arrangements been like? Have you gotten your own bed, or slept on the couch?
My concern is the latter. I don’t want to book my own housing, because I know the extra time with grad students may be invaluable. However, I have this connective tissue disease, and I worry that sleeping on a couch or the like would just obliterate my body for the days of interviews. I’ll be at the interview for 3 nights total. Either way, I’m going to stay with the student. Part of me just figures if I can prep to be uncomfortable maybe I’ll be okay ?
Any insight?
If I could do it all over, I wouldn't stay with a grad student unless the host is part of your lab you're applying to. That grad student likely has little say in the admissions process. All the questions that you would ask your host, you can ask another grad student whether it's in an interview, or during a social event -- in front of someone who may actually have say in whether you're admitted.
I personally do not like repeating the same questions even though there's value in seeking other perspectives, so if I depleted my question list on my host, it might look off if I don't have the same energy/curiosity that likely reveals itself when I ask the question the first time.
Just a personal preference, but many people will usually suggest staying with the host regardless of how difficult it may be for you logistically/physically/emotionally/etc.
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I asked the other applicants at the interview what their schedules were like, and they said it was similar to mine. Some even had 11 individual interviews. Not only that, the other schools they applied to/were interviewed at had similar full-day schedules.
2 hours ago, chopper.wife said:I have had/will have:
1: 2 Faculty, 2 Grad Student, 1 Group (Informal with all applicants applying to my POI)
2: 2 Faculty, 1 Postdoc, 1 Grad Student
Never had 6 with faculty though!! Are you interviewing with literally all clinical faculty members? Geeze!
Nah, there were more faculty that I had to talk to at the socials though lol
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5 hours ago, checkingmyemail said:
I wish I would've thought of this!!! Definitely going to do this for my remaining interviews
Yup, got ppl's #s if their interests were similar to mine. Gonna be colleagues in the future, even if they get the spot I want in the program.
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On 2/3/2019 at 4:44 PM, higaisha said:
This is a really delicate balance, but something you won't know until you try. I did this at interviews and had it backfire horribly on me, and other times it suggested I was well read and knew more intricacies about the topic than most. From what I know now, I would err on the side of caution. It's one thing to bring in new ideas, but its another thing to bring in a whole new direction to the lab which may leave PIs scratching their heads. Doesn't mean your ideas aren't relevant, good or pertinent to the lab's topic, but I think PIs would rather take a more safe and "sure" pick than to go out on a limb and choose someone with fascinating ideas and future directions which may not align as well with their work.
/rant start
I tend to be on the more daring end with my ideas and I have no regrets because it really does help both parties assess fit. I'm not going to do something I even marginally dislike, and I'm putting it out there as diplomatically as possible for my PI as well so they can get an idea of whether they'd want my ideas there or not. I could have very easily manipulated my interests in ways which would have improved my chances and fit, but I chose to stay true to my own interests. This is a hardass way of looking at things, and is likely not the best way to go by things unless you're sure you can sell your ideas (and you're egotistical and ballsy enough to give it a try--haha). The way I see it, I want to be at the place which is ideal for me. I don't mind re-applying instead of going somewhere where I'd be meh happy with, also my main interest is research so that is a very big factor I weigh. Big balancing act with this.
/rant over
Anyone else have thoughts about this?
I really like this approach. I've had those feelings percolating but haven't articulated them. I also advocate staying true to your own interests and not compromising your passion just to become accepted to a lab. I feel like I meet so many applicants who are willing to go to the first place that accepts them, even though it's a 5+ year commitment that they're deciding about. Manipulating your statement and your responses to an interview, particularly about what you want to research might be one of those situations where you need to beware what you ask for. That said, I do understand that people have more internal 'milestone clocks' and might not want to stop 'making moves'. I'm biased since I'm an older applicant.
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Was super nervous for the first 15 minutes of the interview with the PI I applied to, and really said some not ideal things (nothing inappropriate, but responses that were questionable/weak). Any thoughts on whether I should explain myself in the thank-you email? I don't think it was severe, it was just a little awkward.
All of my other interviews (non-PI faculty, group, grad students) went super well, and I feel like they would relay only good things about me, but the PI I applied to probably has the most weight for decision-making so I keep ruminating about the fumble.
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On 2/2/2019 at 2:22 PM, Psyhopeful said:
My first schedule was 4 solo with faculty, 4 solo with a grad student, a social with just grad students, and a social with all students and faculty.
Christ. Mind sharing what school/program this was? I'm excluding tours from the above too. Glad mine wasn't too far off from yours, was beginning to think they were weird for doing it this way.
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21 minutes ago, nboehm said:
I just had one yesterday. 3 group with faculty, 1 solo with faculty, 3 solo with grad students, and a group with all the grad students from the lab. The group interviews were surprisingly not as stressful as the solos. Good luck!
Agreed, the group interview I had felt more like a tour rather than an actual interview. So much pressure off. Even a solo with a grad student was more nerve racking.
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Just now, yikespsych said:
I had 2 student/3 faculty at one school and 2 student/2 faculty at another. Not envious of your crazy schedule - best of luck!!
Yikes indeed. I'm shocked that they lined me up like this. Feel like it's a shooting gallery.
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On 2/1/2019 at 5:19 PM, LOiseauRouge said:
Another thing you might consider would be emailing a prof from your previous institution who is in the same field (if that is an option). I had trouble finding research by a medievalist at one of the prospective schools, and my previous medieval lit prof said he could help me.
I'm reaching out to colleagues (current students) I know who knew him, but they're all also having difficulty finding anything.
On 2/2/2019 at 11:22 AM, PsyDGrad90 said:Is this POI older? If you've searched all of these places and haven't found anything, I'd be worried that this person is gearing up for retirement and has therefore slowed their roll and isn't as productive anymore. This can potentially have implications for you as a student, especially if they don't seem to be too motivated to publish, it may be harder for you to get stuff out in your time there.
The POI seems middle aged. Seems younger from pictures. Still pumping out 5+ publications in good journals per year
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Just now, Clinpsyc01 said:
I had a couple of interviews like that. It’s intense, but at least there’s no time to be nervous!
I just laughed out loud.
Edit: still laughing
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I've had 2 interviews so far.
- 4 solo with faculty, 0 solo with grad students, 0 group interviews
- 2 solo with faculty, 1 solo with grad student, 1 group interview
Just received another schedule with
3. 6 solo with faculty, 4 solo with grad student, 0 group interviews. Excluding 2 socials day of, and night before. IS THIS NORMAL??????? WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
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On 1/31/2019 at 9:25 AM, FreudEgg said:
Oh interesting. I haven't, however I did read a tip about asking your POI to send their most recent articles/ submitted articles for review pre-interview. I'm kind of tempted by that, but also am unsure if it's appropriate (I'm also not currently a student so I don't have access to some of the larger academic search engines). IMO that would give a lot of insight into their lab.
Curious what other people think! My first thought is that I wouldn't ask for "tips" if I were going to ask... but maybe specific questions to help guide your prep? I also think it depends on if you've had previous contact with your POI.
This is basically the question that I have in the other thread
But I figured it would be more work to ask for copies of each recent article/preprint vs just asking for their CV and digging up each PDF on my own. You make any headway on answering that question? I have an interview in less than 2 weeks and I want to do more homework before it
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2 hours ago, MarineBluePsy said:
@21n14l If you're able to find publicly available information about their current work then no I don't think its strange to reach out with a couple of follow up questions. If you're not finding publicly available information about their work then it may increase your chances of a response if you went through the faculty member you're interviewing for or if there is a liaison you've been told to send your interview/application related questions to. You could simply state that you noticed the website hasn't been updated and you wondered if any of the students might be open to a quick email regarding their current work. The professor or liaison will likely just forward your request to the students and encourage them to respond.
If you decide to email students directly I'd keep it short and sweet. Maybe something like......Hi Student, I'll be interviewing with Professor soon and I'd love to learn a bit about your recent work. I'm sure you're quite busy, but unfortunately the website doesn't mention any projects from the last few years. Care to share any info? Thanks for your time.
This gives them the option of just whipping up a couple of lines, attaching a CV, pointing you to a publicly available source for up to date information, etc.
Thanks, that template is helpful. I want to send something out soon (interview in less than 2 weeks), but I want to do the same for the professor as well. Any thoughts on how I should word an email to the professor, asking for the most recent work? Again this all comes so naturally in person but awkward over email
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7 hours ago, paraent said:
Google scholar should be up to date imo. It happens automatically almost right as papers get published.
Yeah it’s a good approximation but usually people will list their grants in progress, right? I want to know what their directions are for the near future so I can express how I can contribute and ways I would extend or maximize their data
5 hours ago, MarineBluePsy said:Did you try linkedin? Some of the students may be on there.
Yeah, so you think it’s alright for me to contact them then? How would you open? “Hey I’m invited to interview and was curious about your current projects?” I would totally say this in person without the preface but for some reason I feel uneasy about doing it via email
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52 minutes ago, sun&stars said:
Have you tried to google the POI to see what comes up? If I didn't have a CV beforehand, I at least got information from researchgate(dot)net. I don't have much information about emailing POIs after being invited to interview. Typically, it would have been ideal to email them prior to application deadlines.
If you decide to email anyone, it might be best to email current students if their information is available. If you do email a professor and they sign off with a first name, I would still use "Professor X" or "Dr. Y" since you don't know them yet.
Thanks. Yeah, I googled for it first. No public CV. And latest publications are all relatively old. I checked scholar, regular google, NIH reporter, POIs websites, researchgate, and granttome.
Fall 2019 Clinical Psych Interview Invites
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