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  1. Just an update ... I received my formal offer from PTS and have been accepted to the History and Ecumenics area of study. I applied for Theology, Systematics. I think I always had it in my head that I was a "systematics" girl but the History/Ecumenics field makes A LOT more sense for my interests, particularly their "Mission, Ecumenics and History of Religions" track. Also a friend who is a former PTS student had recommended applying through ethics because there is less competition (at least at PTS), and said that once you get in, the official "field of study" is virtually meaningless anyway. This might be something to keep in mind for those considering applying in future years. I don't know if it holds for all schools, but if you have a highly popular field of study, perhaps think about if you could "sell" your application to a related, but less competitive field. :)

    Another update... so apparently it was a clerical error and  I have been admitted to Systematic Theology, the program I applied to. The Mission, Ecumenics, and History of Religions track is jointly administered by both theology and history so I won't be precluded from participation in that! There's also the bonus of my degree being called "Systematic Theology," which is handy because it's what I want to actually teach :P  

  2. CGKIMJR, I have not heard from U.Va. either. I emailed Liz Smith, the grad coordinator about this because I knew acceptances and waitlist offers went out a long time ago. In her response from Mar. 7 she said,

     

    "You should definitely not give up hope yet, unless you have other offers, of course.  But, although your file is very impressive, we can only extend a few offers for the funding and until we hear their decisions, we are waiting, just like the other applicants.  The waitlist that we have is very limited, but there is still hope.  I do mark the "deny" decisions around the end of March so that everyone is aware of the department's decision.

    Should you decide to accept elsewhere or just withdraw, which I hope you don't, I would appreciate the same courtesy of your decision, at least on the electronic application.

    I wish I could give you more encouragement, but our hands are tied, too!"

     

    So... I, unfortunately, expect we will get out "denials" in the next few days. Hope this is helpful though. Doesn't "deny" sound better than "reject" haha :P

  3. If you haven't heard anything one way or the other from UVa, odds aren't good. Admits and those on the wait list were notified a month ago.

     

    Yeah, I know. I'm 99% sure I haven't been admitted. I emailed the grad admin and said I was under the impression offers had been made so if I haven't heard, should I expect rejection and she explained that I should still have some hope. It's not so much that I have much hope left, as that if I accept elsewhere without knowing all my options, and then find out that by some freak luck I did get in, I'll kick myself. 

  4. So how did they switch you over to the other field, even though you applied to Theology? I would assume that if one is trying to go into Biblical Studies (OT) like I am, I'm not sure what type of "less competitive field" I could attempt to apply to that has any overlap (except for, say, Theology - which is, of course, a competitive field as well).

    They just did - I'm not sure how, or if they do that at other schools. I applied to systematic theology, was told I was waitlisted, and then when I opened the official offer it said I was admitted to a PhD in the area of History and Ecumenics. I guess it sort of depends on your specific interests. For example, my interests kind of overlap between systematic theology, ethics, history/sociology of religions, etc so I could conceivable pursue them in any of those subfields. Some projects though, I'm sure, fit more exclusively into one subfield. I also think that because PTS is a seminary and not a religious studies department, there might more "movement/fluidity" between/across subfields because "ethics" there are "Christian ethics" and history is "Church History", ya know?      

     

    I guess it would also depend on the school and how competitive that field is for that particular school. E.g., PTS is more well known for systematics than, for e.g. history/ethics, whereas another school might be more well known for ethics and less for systematics.

     

    I'm not suggesting this as an overall tactic, but just something to keep in mind and explore when looking at various schools/programs. It would probably also be useful to talk to current students at the schools to see if something like this might be a good idea.

     

    I guess it also depends what type of biblical studies you're doing ... if you take a more historical-critical, or sociological approach, there might be some overlap with history/antiquity, but if it is more exegetical/theological, maybe more overlap with theological subfields. I definitely don't know enough about bib studies to really say though. 

  5. Just an update ... I received my formal offer from PTS and have been accepted to the History and Ecumenics area of study. I applied for Theology, Systematics. I think I always had it in my head that I was a "systematics" girl but the History/Ecumenics field makes A LOT more sense for my interests, particularly their "Mission, Ecumenics and History of Religions" track. Also a friend who is a former PTS student had recommended applying through ethics because there is less competition (at least at PTS), and said that once you get in, the official "field of study" is virtually meaningless anyway. This might be something to keep in mind for those considering applying in future years. I don't know if it holds for all schools, but if you have a highly popular field of study, perhaps think about if you could "sell" your application to a related, but less competitive field. :) 

  6. U.Va basically said what another poster here had already said. There is still hope, but they can only offer a few spots due to funding and are waiting to hear back from those who they've made offers to. The coordinator said "the wait list is very limited." I think this means that they don't put many people on it at a time? I haven't been wait-listed but she's telling me to have hope, so that's where I'm getting my interpretation from. She also said she'll be marking rejections on the website around the end of March.

     

     

    **And also asked that if I choose to accept elsewhere or withdraw my application, to mark it on the application website. For those who have already decided to accept offers at other schools regardless of what their response is from Virginia (if they haven't heard from them yet), it might be helpful you indicated that on the application so the list of those awaiting responses will shrink and those of us who are still waiting might hear a bit quicker. Just a thought!  

  7. While I really do want to accept my offer to Wycliffe/TST, I still haven't heard from five other schools and want to be a little more informed. The issue I'm wondering about is if I receive an offer to another school that offers me more money, am I better off accepting an offer for more money at a school with less resources, or taking less money and being at a school with more resources? 

     

    I guess this is all hypothetical, because I might not get any more offers, but I can't help thinking about it.

    I'm not sure, the final decision is of course up to you. However, some info that might be helpful ... I see you're from Tennessee and I'm not sure how much you know about Toronto, perhaps you've done your research already. As someone who has lived near Toronto all my life and with many friends that currently live there, I'll give you a heads up that it is a very expensive city to live in. So, on top of funding considerations, you might want to take into account how expensive it is to live in the various cities in which you might be studying. www.numbeo.com is pretty good for doing comparisons of cost of living. Hope this is helpful :)  

  8. Heard from University of Toronto (Dept. for Study of Religion) this a.m. Was offered admission to the MA program rather than the PhD as my proposed project was considered "too theological" for their program and they want to allow me to immerse myself in religious studies methodologies, etc. No guarantee of admission to PhD program after but was told internal applicants have a high rate of success in their applications to the PhD. No funding offered for the MA. 

     

    I probably would have had better luck at TST but there were a lot of different factors going into my decision to apply to UofT instead and I probably weighed some pragmatic/financial factors more heavily than I should have. Lesson learned. I felt like I was selling out in trying to downplay my theological interests anyway and so probably wasn't a fantastic fit. Fortunately, I have some options that are more fitting.

     

    Appreciated the personal and tailored nature of the email though and the GDS' desire to chat by phone/Skype to discuss the opportunity. 

     

    In other news, received a personal email from POI at PTS asking me to be patient about being on the waiting list and thinks there is a good chance of being admitted off of it, so ... fingers crossed for that one!

  9. Yoondaddy, what subfield did you apply to? I don't see any results posted from in Theological Studies, which is my subfield, so I wonder if things are happening a little bit differently in that field. Of course, maybe the admits just aren't part of this forum. Who knows. 

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