revoltingmedievalist Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 Nothing arriving for me yet either. Does anyone know if our departments will know before us about the Sshrc or if they will mail it straight to us? Thanks for posting folks, it makes the waiting less argdammitshiteifonlythey'd%$@grr...if you know what i mean... Yes, SSHRC notifies all the grad studies offices, then they in turn notify the departments and mail out the letters. My department grad secretary said that she then calls everyone to let them know.
eggheaddreams Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 I emailed the faculty of grad studies yesterday at my university to ask if they'd heard yet (about the MA SSHRCs), and the following is a cut and paste of her reply: "The results have been delayed this year. We don't have anything yet, but expect to hear something by the end of the month. We will likely hear first and we will advise your department immediately." Sigh....I guess we need to try to forget about it for another week yet. But come next Thursday, I'll be calling my department to see!
ashleyv Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 The women who deals with SSHRC at my school emailed them to ask why we had not heard yet and this is what they wrote .... "We are hoping to have the results posted to the secure site for the doctoral program by the end of April and for the Master
dramanda Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 The women who deals with SSHRC at my school emailed them to ask why we had not heard yet and this is what they wrote .... "We are hoping to have the results posted to the secure site for the doctoral program by the end of April and for the Master
eggheaddreams Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 For what it's worth, when I told my faculty of grad studies that I would have to "continue pacing" while waiting (seemingly forever) for the SSHRC Master's results to come out, she said that there's no need to pace, that the university recommends students for awards at the Master's level and that there is no further adjudication or competition at the national level. They do need SSHRC final approval, but she says it's pretty much for sure. So if you got sent to Ottawa, you can relax, according to her. I like her message very much and think I'm going with it!
ogopogo Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 the schools are notified before the recipients --- oh! & not only your current institution, but universities across the country (grad departments take this into consideration when making offers to candidates). I forgot to mention in my post, a few days before receiving my letter last year, one of the schools I had applied to called me, offering congrats & making me an offer of admission --- they misjudged the mail & jumped the gun (odd way to find out... I've since learned that this is fairly common (I've met a few other people who learned about their SSHRC in a similar fashion) hmm...this interests me. I figured that since I applied directly to SSHRC I would still be waiting around for the mailman while you all got news from your schools, but this would suggest that I could in fact start pestering grad studies at my new school once I know they have the results. So now I have to decide when and how I want to know...I mean, after all this waiting, how important is the 'ripping open the envelope while holding your breath and making sure to keep your fingers crossed' experience?
ogopogo Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 April 15th April 16th - thepoorstockinger (the optimist) April 17th April 20th - jasper.milvain + phreeduh April 21st - ogopogo April 22nd - ashleyv April 23rd - jackassjim April 24th - jferreir (MA) April 27th - Snasser April 28th April 29th April 30th May 1st Oh, and it looks like we can all congratulate Snasser - the winner of our pool! I guess we should have seen that one coming, but damnit I had it in writing, direct from SSHRC (albeit in February) that The result of this next phase will be communicated to you in mid April. I didn't get to take an extra two weeks to submit my application because there were some changes in my plans...
virdisun Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 For what it's worth, when I told my faculty of grad studies that I would have to "continue pacing" while waiting (seemingly forever) for the SSHRC Master's results to come out, she said that there's no need to pace, that the university recommends students for awards at the Master's level and that there is no further adjudication or competition at the national level. They do need SSHRC final approval, but she says it's pretty much for sure. So if you got sent to Ottawa, you can relax, according to her. I like her message very much and think I'm going with it! Eggheaddreams, I don't know if I can rely on this information. In fact I think it raises a false sense of certainty for us anxious A-list would-be SSHRC recipients. I was thinking about this... some people actually don't get the award - Granted the odds are in your favour if you've been recommended at about 9:1... but think about it - if you are in that 5 or 10 % that does not recieve an award after being recommended, you must have been bracheted in the bottom 10% of over 2,600 applications. And that is a hard lemon to swallow. Now, I don't care whether or not I win but BOY am I going to feel like I just got hit by a truck if I lose...
sylvinka Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Eggheaddreams, I don't know if I can rely on this information. In fact I think it raises a false sense of certainty for us anxious A-list would-be SSHRC recipients. I was thinking about this... some people actually don't get the award - Granted the odds are in your favour if you've been recommended at about 9:1... but think about it - if you are in that 5 or 10 % that does not recieve an award after being recommended, you must have been bracheted in the bottom 10% of over 2,600 applications. And that is a hard lemon to swallow. Now, I don't care whether or not I win but BOY am I going to feel like I just got hit by a truck if I lose... Hi guys. Sorry to disappoint you but I did not get SSHRC 2 years ago although my file made it to Ottawa. Dispite having GPA 3.64 from med school and 3.8 from MSc on top of several scholarships and awards, I got 5 points out of 30! Till now nobody from SSHRC was willing to provide me with any explanation of my ranking. Hopefully, this year it will be better as it is my last attempt to get it during my PhD before I graduate next spring.
eggheaddreams Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Yeah, it's really hard to know what information to believe. We don't want to get our hopes up and then get hosed in the end, and I think that's everyone's big fear. But you know, I just find life goes so much better if I stay positive, and so I'm (perhaps naively) really happy to run with any positive info I get. I know how pollyanna that sounds, but if it works, what the heck. Sylvinka, that sucks. But it sounds like you're talking about the doctoral SSHRC? If so, I've heard that's a different ballgame where getting sent to Ottawa is just the beginning of the scrutiny. I'll admit, I've been pacing these past couple of weeks, but I'm stopping *now* and going outside to play. I'll fret over free money in the mail later. Oh, and good luck--I hope you get it this year!
Snasser Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 To get a PhD SSHRC, you need at least one publication or major conference paper (probably more). At the MA level, grades are the most important.
jasper.milvain Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 I think your major point is right--that research activities count more at the PhD level--but I know a handful of people who won SSHRC in the first year of their PhD before they had published anything, and one or two people with CGS Doctoral SSHRCs who had no publications and only grad conferences. I think letters, other activities, and your research proposal can all help correct a weakness in formal research production.
sylvinka Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 I think your major point is right--that research activities count more at the PhD level--but I know a handful of people who won SSHRC in the first year of their PhD before they had published anything, and one or two people with CGS Doctoral SSHRCs who had no publications and only grad conferences. I think letters, other activities, and your research proposal can all help correct a weakness in formal research production. Agreed about publications but when you just finish your Master's and you plan to start your PhD, what is the probability that you have already some publications? The review process sometime takes 1 year in some journals! I have now 8 journal papers (2 from my Master's) and they were all published in my 2nd and 3rd year of PhD. On top of that my supervisor is not happy about publishing before my thesis is finished as some people consider it double-dipping (you have publications that you use later on to put in your thesis).
Snasser Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Agreed about publications but when you just finish your Master's and you plan to start your PhD, what is the probability that you have already some publications? The review process sometime takes 1 year in some journals! I have now 8 journal papers (2 from my Master's) and they were all published in my 2nd and 3rd year of PhD. On top of that my supervisor is not happy about publishing before my thesis is finished as some people consider it double-dipping (you have publications that you use later on to put in your thesis). It's so hard to balance publish or perish with publish *and* perish!
jasper.milvain Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 It's so hard to balance publish or perish with publish *and* perish! Nicely put. I usually hear this sentiment expressed as "You can publish your way into any job, but you can also publish your way out of it." Timing of publication probably varies across SSHRC funded disciplines, but in English it's almost unheardof for MA students have a legit publication in a grown up journal.
Snasser Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Nicely put. I usually hear this sentiment expressed as "You can publish your way into any job, but you can also publish your way out of it." Timing of publication probably varies across SSHRC funded disciplines, but in English it's almost unheardof for MA students have a legit publication in a grown up journal. same in history.
ashleyv Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 So anyone think it'll happen tomorrow???? Definetly not... I think they will come out mid-week or later in the week and we will get them later next week
traveltip Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 My faculty of graduate studies' external awards department has said announcements will be made April 30 (Thursday). Coincidentally, that's the same day that the Vanier scholars will be announced in Ottawa. Perhaps they are trying to release all the information at the same time (?). Not sure if that means that letters will be mailed on the 30th, or if they will be mailed a day or two before so as to arrive on Thursday. In any case, results are imminent; the end is in sight! Best of luck, everyone!
dramanda Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 In any case, results are imminent; the end is in sight! This makes me simultaneously happy and terrified....
jferreir Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 My faculty of graduate studies' external awards department has said announcements will be made April 30 (Thursday). Coincidentally, that's the same day that the Vanier scholars will be announced in Ottawa. Perhaps they are trying to release all the information at the same time (?). Not sure if that means that letters will be mailed on the 30th, or if they will be mailed a day or two before so as to arrive on Thursday. In any case, results are imminent; the end is in sight! Best of luck, everyone! Is this in reference to the Masters CGS as well? I find it strange that SSHRC would withhold competition results solely to coincide with the announcement of the Vanier winners. That is, the results of the Vanier competition have no bearing on other awards (i.e. Masters CGS). It just seems cruel to extend the waiting period without good reason...
stepha Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 hmmm... my guess would be that the 30th would be the mailing date. I can't see them holding off to send everything simultaneously; I suppose the delay is due to the numerous changes this year.
jasper.milvain Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 That is, the results of the Vanier competition have no bearing on other awards (i.e. Masters CGS). Ah, but since unsuccessful Vanier nominees automatically get a CGS, their results will have an impact on the rest of the doctoral pool. Thursday would be nice... I could live with that.
westies121 Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Does any one know if you get to see what score you received on the SSHRC M.A. application? I'd really like to what score I received, whether or not I win the SSHRC.
Snasser Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Does any one know if you get to see what score you received on the SSHRC M.A. application? I'd really like to what score I received, whether or not I win the SSHRC. If you applied for the MA SSHRC and your university has sent your application to Ottawa you are basically guaranteed an award.
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