November Elections

[mandarin.orange]

get ready for Romney as the next president.

Americas believe what they see on yahoo.

People still read yahoo?

Edited October 12, 2012 by mandarin.orange

[mandarin.orange]

And...another debate. Another tumblr is born.

[Darth.Vegan]

I'm not big on electoral politics, hence my profile pic. However, Romney just got decimated in that debate.

Edited October 17, 2012 by xdarthveganx

[Two Espressos]

And...another debate. Another tumblr is born.

Haha, thanks for the link! And yes, "binders full of women" was an odd phrase...

[Usmivka]

Usmiv- your data is old. Romney has a 7 point lead in Florida based on a yahoo article today.what I mean is. Maybe not at this exact moment but it's momentum. Every yahoo article was pro Obama and anti Romney along with the indi vote. Since the first debate, a lot of indi votes are going Romney instead. And since the debate every article on yahoo has been pro Romney. Americas believe what they see on yahoo. I'm sorry I offended you but get ready for Romney as the next president...

You didn't offend me, so don't stress. What I am arguing is that statisticians (who evaluate data and make models, incorporating all available polls while accounting for differing methodologies) don't appear to be pointing the same direction that you are. Even after Obama hit a minimum post first debate and pre-second, Romney's odds never got much beyond 35% (or 30% depending on which statisticians you trust more--either way take a look at these apolitical sites and see how their models work and what their accuracy is). My point was and remains that while a GOP win is possible, and things can certainly change between now and the election, it is not currently the most likely scenario. Statistical thinking is really important both in politics and in graduate school, which is why I am making a point about what the statistics can and can't tell us on the one politics thread in the Grad Cafe.

Edit: I'm still loving the memes! And I'm pretty sure the moderator told the president to "stop talking," which cracks me up.

Edited October 17, 2012 by Usmivka

[mandarin.orange]

On a more serious note: while the memes are great, the truth behind that "Binders" comment of Romney's downright frightens me. While "frightening and off-base" could be said about EITHER candidate when one delves deep into the fact-checking, the particular misogyny of that one was, I think, especially revealing:

http://blog.thephoenix.com/blogs/talkingpolitics/archive/2012/10/16/mind-the-binder.aspx

[Usmivka]

On a more serious note: while the memes are great, the truth behind that "Binders" comment of Romney's downright frightens me. While "frightening and off-base" could be said about EITHER candidate when one delves deep into the fact-checking, the particular misogyny of that one was, I think, especially revealing:

http://blog.thephoen...the-binder.aspx

OK, to be fair the Phoenix usually has an agenda, and is not exactly a high quality publication (most of us in Boston politely decline when offered a copy by the distributor at the T). That said, and attitude aside, the article is factually correct and the same info will probably hit the Post and Times in a couple days and create a shitstorm.

[mandarin.orange]

OK, to be fair the Phoenix usually has an agenda, and is not exactly a high quality publication (most of us in Boston politely decline when offered a copy by the distributor at the T).

Good to know and thanks for the insight (I haven't read the Phoenix before).

[darkknight9]

Indefinite Detention

Warrantless Surveillance/PATRIOT Act

Gitmo

Racial Profiling in Fighting Terrorism

Torture

Killing of US citizens by Army drones under the governments direction

And these are just SOME of the things that were supposed to get fixed/never happen under a democratic party presisdent. No matter which you vote for, the (D)ouche or the tu®d sandwich (thank you South Park), we the people are the ones that are going to take it in the shorts. Anyone who says they are informed of the issues that votes for one of the establishment candidates is a tool who is oblivious to the situation either willfully or out of faithful desperation. Remember that as the next president continues to sign off on extensions of the Patriot Act so that agents can write self written search warrants and detain you indefinitely with no lawyer, no rule of law... not even a dime for a phone call.

[Two Espressos]

Indefinite Detention

Warrantless Surveillance/PATRIOT Act

Gitmo

Racial Profiling in Fighting Terrorism

Torture

Killing of US citizens by Army drones under the governments direction

And these are just SOME of the things that were supposed to get fixed/never happen under a democratic party presisdent. No matter which you vote for, the (D)ouche or the tu®d sandwich (thank you South Park), we the people are the ones that are going to take it in the shorts. Anyone who says they are informed of the issues that votes for one of the establishment candidates is a tool who is oblivious to the situation either willfully or out of faithful desperation. Remember that as the next president continues to sign off on extensions of the Patriot Act so that agents can write self written search warrants and detain you indefinitely with no lawyer, no rule of law... not even a dime for a phone call.

Agreed. Obama is the lesser of two evils, and I have major concerns with the things you listed above. Unfortunately, as we live in a country guided by a two-party system, our options are always severely limited.

Edited October 19, 2012 by Two Espressos

[Guest Gnome Chomsky]

Agreed. Obama is the lesser of two evils, and I have major concerns with the things you listed above. Unfortunately, as we live in a country guided by a two-party system, our options are always severely limited.

I'm with you. I really hate the bipartisan government. I'm not gonna support this screwed up system. I'm never gonna vote for as long as I live as long as we have to choose between the left and the right. Most "real" people are left on some issues, right on some some, and somewhere in the middle on the rest. I know people who are totally Democrat when it comes to social issues and totally Republican when it comes to economic issues. And what's stupid is there are about 12 key issues that separate the conservatives from the liberals (gay marriage, abortion, gun rights, etc) and they try to make us think that if you're left (or right) on one issue, you should be left (or right) on the rest. But there's really no relation between these issues. I know people who are for gay marriage and against abortion. And their arguments make perfect sense: "Marriage is an important part of society. Gay people make up a large number of society. Gay people should be allowed to get married too... Sure there is the occasional rape victim who becomes pregnant, but 99.999% of people who get pregnant are irresponsible and reckless. People should be held accountable for their actions."

[Darth.Vegan]

Riiiighhht....

[Guest Gnome Chomsky]

I'm with you. I really hate the bipartisan government. I'm not gonna support this screwed up system. I'm never gonna vote for as long as I live as long as we have to choose between the left and the right. Most "real" people are left on some issues, right on some some, and somewhere in the middle on the rest. I know people who are totally Democrat when it comes to social issues and totally Republican when it comes to economic issues. And what's stupid is there are about 12 key issues that separate the conservatives from the liberals (gay marriage, abortion, gun rights, etc) and they try to make us think that if you're left (or right) on one issue, you should be left (or right) on the rest. But there's really no relation between these issues. I know people who are for gay marriage and against abortion. And their arguments make perfect sense: "Marriage is an important part of society. Gay people make up a large number of society. Gay people should be allowed to get married too... Sure there is the occasional rape victim who becomes pregnant, but 99.999% of people who get pregnant are irresponsible and reckless. People should be held accountable for their actions."

Sorry. I meant people who accidentally get pregnant.

[Guest Gnome Chomsky]

Riiiighhht....

In response to?

[darkknight9]

99.999% of people who get pregnant are irresponsible and reckless. People should be held accountable for their actions."

Whether accidental or not, either you've never seen another human being outside of your family naked, or your not very keen on percentages and math.

Hopefully you aren't related to the r-tard that keeps asking questions on the posted results page about every freaking speech pathology program in the nation.

Since no method of control can guarantee 100% pregnancy free sex (although you can get a very high percentage with combined methods) it is downright foolish to characterize **hundreds or thousands** of people you've never met as 'irresponsible and reckless'.

[Guest Gnome Chomsky]

Whether accidental or not, either you've never seen another human being outside of your family naked, or your not very keen on percentages and math.

Hopefully you aren't related to the r-tard that keeps asking questions on the posted results page about every freaking speech pathology program in the nation.

Since no method of control can guarantee 100% pregnancy free sex (although you can get a very high percentage with combined methods) it is downright foolish to characterize **hundreds or thousands** of people you've never met as 'irresponsible and reckless'.

Maybe you didn't read my post. I said I know people who are for one liberal thing and for one conservative thing. I wasn't saying that was my opinion. I'm for abortion all the way. And I meant to say "who accidentally get pregnant." Which still wasnt my opinion. I've convinced enough girls to get abortions in my life. Recently too. I guess people on here dont care about context. Next time try reading the whole post before you call someone a r-tard. And be a man next time and don't hyphenate it. I was responding to a poster who said he hated the two-party system. I was agreeing with him. I was saying that being for or against one issue (like gay marriage) was no indication for how you should feel about another issue (like abortion). The point was that we are forced to be right or left on 12 arbitrary key issues when there is no real direct correlation between them.

Edited October 20, 2012 by JoeyBoy718

[darkknight9]

Maybe you didn't read my post. I said I know people who are for one liberal thing and for one conservative thing. I wasn't saying that was my opinion. I'm for abortion all the way. And I meant to say "who accidentally get pregnant." Which still wasnt my opinion. I've convinced enough girls to get abortions in my life. Recently too. I guess people on here dont care about context. Next time try reading the whole post before you call someone a r-tard. And be a man next time and don't hyphenate it. I was responding to a poster who said he hated the two-party system. I was agreeing with him. I was saying that being for or against one issue (like gay marriage) was no indication for how you should feel about another issue (like abortion). The point was that we are forced to be right or left on 12 arbitrary key issues when there is no real direct correlation between them.

I read it. You talk about two parties, 12 points and the only mistake I made was that you were quoting some r-tard, and not presenting the proposed, quoted example as your own thought but rather that of another person which you 'know'. You used that quoted example to back up your statement that different people believe different things. While I may agree that we do indeed believe in different things, your quoted example is still asinine. Speaking of stupid or foolish things to say, you may have hit the mark by admitting on a public forum that you have "convinced enough girls to get abortions in my life. Recently too." Without backup context that kind of makes you sound like an ass. But not nearly as much as calling someone out someones sexual potency over the usage of hyphens. I use r-tard not to soften the blow of calling out someones apparent lack of mental faculties, but because after hearing Stan call his dad an r-tard instead of a 'retard' its been hilarity ever since. Surely as a lingustics major you can appreciate finding emotional content in certain words and/or phrases?

[Guest Gnome Chomsky]

I read it. You talk about two parties, 12 points and the only mistake I made was that you were quoting some r-tard, and not presenting the proposed, quoted example as your own thought but rather that of another person which you 'know'. You used that quoted example to back up your statement that different people believe different things. While I may agree that we do indeed believe in different things, your quoted example is still asinine. Speaking of stupid or foolish things to say, you may have hit the mark by admitting on a public forum that you have "convinced enough girls to get abortions in my life. Recently too." Without backup context that kind of makes you sound like an ass. But not nearly as much as calling someone out someones sexual potency over the usage of hyphens. I use r-tard not to soften the blow of calling out someones apparent lack of mental faculties, but because after hearing Stan call his dad an r-tard instead of a 'retard' its been hilarity ever since. Surely as a lingustics major you can appreciate finding emotional content in certain words and/or phrases?

I am an ass. I'm also annoyed when people try to call me out for a certain belief when I was just giving an example. I guess I should've went with the "It's still a life" example. Liberals want to be so open to abortion but then condemn anyone who actually goes through with it. And I haven't seen South Park so I didn't know r-tard was from that. I thought it was just a politically correct way of saying retard. Which in these softened days wouldn't surprise me.

[CageFree]

Liberals want to be so open to abortion but then condemn anyone who actually goes through with it.

I don't know what liberals you've been talking to, but I don't know any pro-choice liberals who would condemn a person for making that decision... it's the whole point of being pro-CHOICE.

[runaway]

OK, to be fair the Phoenix usually has an agenda, and is not exactly a high quality publication (most of us in Boston politely decline when offered a copy by the distributor at the T). That said, and attitude aside, the article is factually correct and the same info will probably hit the Post and Times in a couple days and create a shitstorm.

Sorry to jump back a few posts, but just wanted to say:

The Phoenix in Boston is akin to the Village Voice (and owned by same umbrella); it's low-budget but not necessarily low quality. The article re: the 'binders of women' was verified by the MA Political Women's Caucus itself, so the information is accurate.

[Guest Gnome Chomsky]

I don't know what liberals you've been talking to, but I don't know any pro-choice liberals who would condemn a person for making that decision... it's the whole point of being pro-CHOICE.

No. I was just referring to the people who were giving me negative points for saying "I've convinced many girls to have an abortion." I was joking when I said that. I just wanted to be an a-hole because I got annoyed when people were mistaking my examples for my own opinions. It's all gravy though.

[Conscia Fati]

I'm voting for Romney, here! It is so liberating to say that, given that it often feels like it's only politically correct to be for Obama in this election.

[Guest Gnome Chomsky]

I'm voting for Romney, here! It is so liberating to say that, given that it often feels like it's only politically correct to be for Obama in this election.

You already got a negative rating. I guess it is politically incorrect.

[viggosloof28]

Sharing a video made by one of my advisors and some of her colleagues. I don't agree with everything in the video, but it raises some important points about women's issues in this election. Please watch and feel free to share it with anyone who might be interested. We girls have a lot at stake at the polls this year; everyone - including you, menfolk - needs to make their voices heard, whatever you believe!

[1Q84]

I'm voting for Romney, here! It is so liberating to say that, given that it often feels like it's only politically correct to be for Obama in this election.

If by politically correct you mean being a decent, kind human being then I guess you're right. Considering Romney has been touting sexist, homophobic and racist policies, I can't begin to imagine why you'd vote him other than prejudice against those that he's persecuting (including being a self-loathing woman).