sadface2014 Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 It isn't a margin, it's the spacing. A 0.7' margin would be a huge difference. I've since changed it and it is difficult to notice a difference. Do we hear about disqualifications earlier?
Neuro_Guy Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 It isn't a margin, it's the spacing. A 0.7' margin would be a huge difference. I've since changed it and it is difficult to notice a difference. Do we hear about disqualifications earlier? I believe you do, and they'll certainly note it as a DQ vs rejection after review Also, for line spacing how does the "before" and "after" spacing options (under "line spacing options" in word) come into play? Can they be set to 0 as long as spacing is single-spaced?
dcampos6398 Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Opinion? but i guess it is late now! Just submitted my application. Would y'all have outlined things the same way I did? Goodluck! Instead of mentioning these things throughout my application, I reserved it to the final page of my personal statement. Would you guys have mentioned it though out or at the first? How would you have done things differently? I am concerned, because it looks different then any of the past example applications. Mostly, what i have seen is people saving about a 3rd of a page to list abstracts and publications. I took an entire page. O.o In a nutshell: first page - broader impacts of food microbiology, safe food supply, everyone eats second page- graduated h.s in class of 3 people, first generation Hispanic, research starting, mentoring hearing impaired girl, outreach/recruiting to minority students third page: I am questioning if I took too much of a risk listing these out instead of talking about them. Below is just the short version. That page listed extraneous detail about conference, journal, co-authors, monetary support 7 abstracts (first author) 1 publication (sixth author) 2 publications submitted (3rd author) 1 publication in preparation (1st author) undergraduate program support: NSF, NIH, HHMI, CUR I will do it differently next cycle! Good luck! It really is like winning the lottery!
hobokennojokin Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 It isn't a margin, it's the spacing. A 0.7' margin would be a huge difference. I've since changed it and it is difficult to notice a difference. Do we hear about disqualifications earlier? Whoops, sorry completely misread. Also realizing you said references. They seem to be more flexible with those.
Cookie Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 All statements should be written using standard 8.5" x 11" page size, 12-point, Times New Roman font or 12-point, Computer Modern (LaTex) font, 1" margins on all sides, and must be single spaced or greater. Only publications and presentation citations may be a smaller font, no less than 10 point, Times New Roman or 10-point, Computer Modern (LaTex). Small type size makes it difficult for reviewers to read the application; consequently, the use of small type not in compliance with the application guidelines may be grounds for NSF to return the application without review.
clandry Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I foolishly did not double check the spacing for proposal before sending it in. The spacing is a tiny bit under single spacing, and the references are at 0.7 spacing instead of 1.0 spacing. Does anyone know anyone who has been DQed for things such as these? The changes don't affect the length that much, and its difficult to notice unless you are looking for it. Anyone know if the process is automated? Is it every worth messaging them? That's an auto rejection without a doubt. Do not message them since they may not notice it.
kaister Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Ah just submitted!! Thank god it's over!! For now...
Maziana Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I asked one of my professors to look over my research statement... last week. Just last night she finally responded telling me to send it. I sent it but haven't heard anything yet... -__- Well, I got another professor and some others to look at it, so I guess it's probably fine. I'd rather just submit it right now and get it over with, but agh, I feel obligated to wait a little while longer...
gellert Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Just submitted! Whew. Of course, now the wait begins....
thechuffologist Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Is it bad that I keep printing off my research and personal statements to see how they will look for the reviewers?
stmwap Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Is it bad that I keep printing off my research and personal statements to see how they will look for the reviewers? Yes. You are harming the environment, which is bad for society. -10 points for Broader Impacts. Quant_Liz_Lemon, Roo, Cookie and 3 others 5 1
fosgfp Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 question for other people in research-- we get credit hours for our lab experience and rotations, albeit the grades are pass fail. I WASN'T going to include it in my credit hours since it's not really a class. Should I? Thanks!
guttata Posted November 7, 2013 Author Posted November 7, 2013 question for other people in research-- we get credit hours for our lab experience and rotations, albeit the grades are pass fail. I WASN'T going to include it in my credit hours since it's not really a class. Should I? Thanks! This should be a no brainer. Is it reported on your transcript? Then yes, include it.
Neuro_Guy Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 This should be a no brainer. Is it reported on your transcript? Then yes, include it. Wait, i'm confused - where else can you report classes / credit hours besides on your transcript? and even then it's not like you have a choice about what credit hours to report, i mean if it's on your transcript then it gets reported, right?
thechuffologist Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Yes. You are harming the environment, which is bad for society. -10 points for Broader Impacts. Do I gain +5 if I recycle them afterwards?
Eco PlantGirl Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Quick question! For the citations/references - does it matter what style we use? Is it okay to have a super condensed version, as follows?: Last, F. Journal Name. (Year). Or do we need to include the volume number and page numbers? I've found different answers in different places.
stmwap Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Do I gain +5 if I recycle them afterwards? Only if in the process you enhance scientific and technical understanding.
gradbox Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 My apologies if this was already asked, but is it okay to omit a title on the research proposal document? In previous years it seemed to be a requirement but I didnt see any instructions requiring one on the document this year
loginofpscl Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) The application module rovides space for the title, keywords, and certification statements in the final portion. Edited November 8, 2013 by loginofpscl
SlickMcFavorite Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Can anyone tell me how to see the reviews for a previous application? I applied last year (didn't get it), but never got reviewer comments -- do I have to look at them online? If so, WHERE on the fastlane site do I look!?
guttata Posted November 8, 2013 Author Posted November 8, 2013 Can anyone tell me how to see the reviews for a previous application? I applied last year (didn't get it), but never got reviewer comments -- do I have to look at them online? If so, WHERE on the fastlane site do I look!? Sorry Slick. Comments are not emailed out, they're made available shortly after announcements on your Fastlane profile page. Unfortunately, they're only available for a couple weeks after announcements and then deleted. There is no way for you to see your previous comments now.
gellert Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Damn, it's only been one day since I turned in my app and I already feel like I'm playing the waiting game full-swing.
SlickMcFavorite Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Well, for all of you who submitted your applications, MAKE SURE TO ADD ALL nsf.gov EMAIL ADDRESSES TO YOUR WHITE LIST gellert 1
guttata Posted November 8, 2013 Author Posted November 8, 2013 Sorry Slick. Comments are not emailed out,
Maziana Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Honestly, I'm probably going to just forget about the NSF until April. I have other applications to focus on, and I can't do anything about this right now, so whew! It's out of my hands! Although I will stress about my two procrastinating professors until the 14th. They support me and will definitely get their reference letters in, but they always do things at the last minute, so I will have to remind them a ton.
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