EngiNerd-12 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I got the same email too. Congrats mcknoche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks.k Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I also got the 'still being considered for an award' email. Congratulations mcknoche, hopefully they'll release all the names soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibi12 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Another Biochem student and I got the same "We are pleased to inform you..still being considered." Hopefully everyone who got this e-mail will find out soon. I found a website that reported the responses people got and last year those who received this email found out the first week in May. Here's to finding out sooner. And congrats mcknoche! Edited April 10, 2014 by Shibi12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg9286 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I think it's different from the NSF setup because the DoD facilities are the final decision makers. Since they all probably submit their decisions at different times, even though they probably have the same deadlines, it makes the award offers more of a lump thing..and also might explain why certain disciplines hear together...who knows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quant_Liz_Lemon Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Did anyone not get the email? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiefOfJoy Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I got offered the award! But I also was offered the NSF GRFP, so it's decision time. Congrats! That's fantastic. I was offered the NSF GRFP as well, no NDSEG as of yet. What are the benefits of one fellowship over the other beyond what's listed on their webpages? As far as I can tell: NSF has a slightly higher stipend (also you can begin it in June or Sept, NDSEG begins Sept, so you could get more $$ through NSF if you are eventually graduating at the end of the school year), NDSEG covers $1K of health insurance (not sure about NSF), both offer some sort of super-computer access, international research options for NSF... anything else? Especially any pros/cons you wouldn't know until you begin the award? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galapagos Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Got it! Dear 2014 NDSEG Applicant,Congratulations! You have been selected to receive a 2014 National Defense Science and Engineering Graduate (NDSEG) Fellowship. The NDSEG Fellowship is sponsored and funded by the Department of Defense (DoD). NDSEG selections are made by the Air Force Research Laboratory/Air Force Office of Scientific Research (AFRL/AFOSR), the Office of Naval Research (ONR), and the Army Research Office (ARO). The American Society for Engineering Education (ASEE) administers the NDSEG Fellowship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Congrats mcknoche & galapagos!! What was the acceptance deadline they gave you? My guess is that's when us waitlisters can expect a final decision. Edited April 10, 2014 by sandyo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmstanle Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 If anyone else got both NSF and NDSEG, do you know which you will accept? Maybe we can get together and compare notes. I know NDSEG is more tuition money (full tuition vs $12k/yr for NSF), but honestly that only matters for my department (I am a PhD student, so all my tuition is paid for by the dept.). I care more about whether one fellowship has a better community, more oppportunity for outreach with alums (obviously NSF has a larger alum network), more specific opportuniites like NSF GROW (the abroad thing). Send me a pm if you want to compare notes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brusselsprouted Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) I got offered the award! But I also was offered the NSF GRFP, so it's decision time. I think you can actually accept both, since NSF allows you to defer funding for two years (it gives three years of funding over five years). Just defer the NSF for a year or two, depending on whether you're an undergraduate or first-year graduate student and use the NDSEG for your first year or two. Then start your NSF funding. Obviously you should check with your program director at your graduate institution to make sure everything's okay, but I'm pretty sure you can work it out. Congrats! Note that the NDSEG is non-deferrable. So you have to use the NDSEG first. Edited April 10, 2014 by brusselsprouted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcknoche Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I think you can actually accept both, since NSF allows you to defer funding for two years (it gives three years of funding over five years). Just defer the NSF for a year or two, depending on whether you're an undergraduate or first-year graduate student and use the NDSEG for your first year or two. Then start your NSF funding. Obviously you should check with your program director at your graduate institution to make sure everything's okay, but I'm pretty sure you can work it out. Congrats! Note that the NDSEG is non-deferrable. So you have to use the NDSEG first. Awesome!I'm going to have to check into that. For those of you wondering, we have to accept the NDSEG by April 17. Also, my field of study is Electrical Engineering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschlich Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'm like 95% sure you can't accept both. Quant_Liz_Lemon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffleung1992 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'm like 95% sure you can't accept both. That was my impression as well. Can anyone confirm 100%?? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginofpscl Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 From the NSF solicitation: http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2013/nsf13584/nsf13584.htm The GRFP fellowship cannot be accepted concurrently with another Federal fellowship. Since the award period for the NSF is five years (and three years for actual tenure), this means you cannot accept both. On to differences: you have to accept the NDSEG immediately, which is sort of less flexible than the ability to put the GRFP on reserve for up to two years. Any other differences besides the ones listed? DropTheBase and Quant_Liz_Lemon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karth Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Results are out! Just got the email too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picabo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I got one of the "We are pleased to inform you that your application is still being considered for an award." email messages. Does the fact that some people got actual award notices mean that I haven't been awarded one and probably won't be? *is really neurotic* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I got one of the "We are pleased to inform you that your application is still being considered for an award." email messages. Does the fact that some people got actual award notices mean that I haven't been awarded one and probably won't be? *is really neurotic* 2 years ago, we didn't get any initial notification. Last year, there were a few people who got an award after getting the waitlist email - so there is still hope! Both years, I got the final notification the 1st week of May. Since the acceptance deadline is 4/17 (per mcknoche, above), seems like we should hear about the same time again, as they notify waitlisted people based on acceptance replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiefOfJoy Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I got one of the "We are pleased to inform you that your application is still being considered for an award." email messages. Does the fact that some people got actual award notices mean that I haven't been awarded one and probably won't be? *is really neurotic* I'm assuming wait-listed people got that email, too, no? April 17 is not much time to decide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 What (so far) seems different this year is that no one got outright rejections today. Last year, this email seemed like a waitlist, but maybe this year they just sent it to everyone who wasn't awarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picabo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 What (so far) seems different this year is that no one got outright rejections today. Last year, this email seemed like a waitlist, but maybe this year they just sent it to everyone who wasn't awarded. That's what I'm thinking. *Le sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebla Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Congrats to everyone who got it!! It seems like in previous years, awards went out by discipline...has anyone in Biosciences heard back positively? Also, what do people see when they log in here: https://ndseg.asee.org/award/awardees/19270 I get a message that I've declined the award, which freaks me out a little.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picabo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Congrats to everyone who got it!! It seems like in previous years, awards went out by discipline...has anyone in Biosciences heard back positively? Also, what do people see when they log in here: https://ndseg.asee.org/award/awardees/19270 I get a message that I've declined the award, which freaks me out a little.. I'm in biosciences and have the "still being considered" email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loginofpscl Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Congrats to everyone who got it!! It seems like in previous years, awards went out by discipline...has anyone in Biosciences heard back positively? Also, what do people see when they log in here: https://ndseg.asee.org/award/awardees/19270 I get a message that I've declined the award, which freaks me out a little.. The site is not taking my password from this login screen. Is anyone encountering the same problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebla Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 The site is not taking my password from this login screen. Is anyone encountering the same problem? So if I go to https://ndseg.asee.org/award and try to log in, it won't let me. But I think since I am logged into the application site, this site is up: https://ndseg.asee.org/award/19270/overview and gives me a message that I've declined my offer...which I have / would not loginofpscl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosgfp Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Just got an email that I got awarded!!!! So f'ing happy especially after nsf disappointment. I applied in neural sciences. Good luck to everyone else!!!! loginofpscl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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