galaxstar Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Hello (mostly for Canadian students) Does anyone know when we'll hear back from specific schools about NSERC CGS-M results? I've heard back from Waterloo about admissions, but they did not mention whether or not they would offer me the CGS-M. It's critical that I find out so that I can let a potential supervisor there know, since he can only take me on if I'm able to secure that funding. (The system is new this year, so NSERC won't be the one notifying students from what I understand). Ideas, anyone?
snowshoes Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 My PGS-D application was forwarded and I was informed that the results would be released sometime in April (probably mid to late). I am not sure how much this relates to the CGS-M program if there have been significant changes. That said, I still wouldn't expect anything before April. Good luck.
TakeruK Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Now that it is up to each school to determine their CGS-M awadees, it will really depend on the schedule of each school! For Waterloo, the timeline is listed here: https://uwaterloo.ca/graduate-studies/waterloos-harmonized-tri-council-cgs-m-timeline-2013 It sounds like the first notification will occur on April 1, 2014, which is the same timeline as it was with NSERC. However, based on the decisions of the first wave, they may award additional CGS-M's after April 23. galaxstar 1
snowshoes Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Now that it is up to each school to determine their CGS-M awadees, it will really depend on the schedule of each school! Interesting, I wondered why the CGS-M due date was so different this year. I don't like the idea of the NSERC awards being institutionalized like this; I hope the PGS doesn't go this way (although I'm sure it will).
galaxstar Posted January 15, 2014 Author Posted January 15, 2014 Me neither - it has been incredibly frustrating. This is not good news that the results won't be out until April. Oh well, nothing to do but wait I suppose. I'm not sure what will happen with the PGS. Since you can take the PGS to universities outside of Canada, it doesn't seem like it would be fair to allocate a certain number of awards in the way the CGS-Ms are allocated, so we might not see the same transition. TakeruK, thank you so much for linking that site! It's perfect!
WhiteRussian Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 There is no PGS-M anymore but there is PGS-D.
TakeruK Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 The PGS-M did go away. Since the difference between the PGS-M and CGS-M award levels was like $200 and if you look at the stats from past years, the majority (over 90%) of -M awards were CGS-M. Very few PGS-M were awarded. Maybe these awards were all taken out of Canada? I think I am okay with the PGS-M going away. A Masters degree in Canada is a lot different than one in the US, for example, and it's probably better to prioritize funding for Canadian students to do Canadian masters (which are generally funded, while US masters are not). NSERC kind of expects that their award will just provide part of the funding and that the school will do the rest, but this isn't the case with the US schools. But I agree that having institutionalized CGS-Ms mean less freedom and choices for us. And also more work (apply for CGS-M at every school). And they might potentially reduce our funding--many schools in my application year have $3000-$5000 top ups for bringing in the award, but if each school knows exactly how many awards they will get each year, they have no incentive to entice award holders to pick their school anymore. On the other hand, I can see why the schools would want this. In the past, the CGS-M quota was set for each student's undergrad school, but the majority of students go elsewhere for their Masters. So, a big school like UBC or Toronto may have a ton of its undergrads receiving CGS-Ms but that is no guarantee of how many incoming CGS-Ms they will get. So, the system can be really unbalanced with some schools receiving a disproportionate number of CGS-Ms. And, it could still be a good thing. In the old system, you compete with your undergrad class for CGS-Ms. So, if you go to a big/top school in Canada, it's harder to get a CGS-M than if you had gone to a smaller school where the pool of competitors is smaller. In the new system, the top applicants to a particular graduate program will receive the CGS-M, instead of the top applicants from a particular undergrad program. I think this does make more sense. However, I think the -D level awards should remain institutionalized, similar to the way the US NSF funds their graduate students. Trilobite 1
reinhard Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 So tomorrow is the day... When our fate is decided.
TakeruK Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Depending on the year, the letters might actually go out not exactly on April 1. You may or may not get an email either. This is based on comparing my experience with others in the past years. I'm just saying this so that if you don't hear anything tomorrow, don't panic
maddaddam Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Depending on the year, the letters might actually go out not exactly on April 1. You may or may not get an email either. This is based on comparing my experience with others in the past years. I'm just saying this so that if you don't hear anything tomorrow, don't panic Thanks for the heads up!
reinhard Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 Depending on the year, the letters might actually go out not exactly on April 1. You may or may not get an email either. This is based on comparing my experience with others in the past years. I'm just saying this so that if you don't hear anything tomorrow, don't panic TakeruK, you are going to be my go-to guy for anything related to academic information!
Djentbot Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) Just got my offer for my SSHRC CGS-M at UWO! It came through as an email from the Tri-Council Agency (at 4:30 in the morning, of all times), simply saying to check the research portal for a change in my status. I'm ecstatic, because I honestly thought I had no chance at a CGS-M this year because of my... "less than stellar" research proposal. Good luck to all the other applicants! Edited April 1, 2014 by Djentbot
Ancient_DNA Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 Just got my offer for my SSHRC CGS-M at UWO! It came through as an email from the Tri-Council Agency (at 4:30 in the morning, of all times), simply saying to check the research portal for a change in my status. I'm ecstatic, because I honestly thought I had no chance at a CGS-M this year because of my... "less than stellar" research proposal. Good luck to all the other applicants! Just a question, I went to the site as it stated too but there has been no change. Did it say beside the school that there was an option? I was sure I wasn't going to get one, so I'm not bummed, I was just curious what it looked like for you. Thanks.
rj16 Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 Just a question, I went to the site as it stated too but there has been no change. Did it say beside the school that there was an option? I was sure I wasn't going to get one, so I'm not bummed, I was just curious what it looked like for you. Thanks. I got an email telling me to check the portal. Then beside the name of the school it said 'not offered'. I'm still waiting on the school that actually matters, so fingers crossed!
Ancient_DNA Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) I got an email telling me to check the portal. Then beside the name of the school it said 'not offered'. I'm still waiting on the school that actually matters, so fingers crossed! That's so weird. All I get is this: Organization Status Field of Research Date of Offer Offer Expiry Date Updated Action Memorial University of Newfoundland Alternate social sciences and/or humanities 2014-04-01 06:32:35 University of Calgary Received by administrator social sciences and/or humanities 2013-11-28 22:24:13 University of Toronto Received by administrator social sciences and/or humanities 2013-11-28 22:24:13 McMaster University Received by administrator social sciences and/or humanities 2013-11-28 22:24:13 Sorry that came in so odd looking, I couldn't find a way to link a picture. Edited April 1, 2014 by Ancient_DNA
scholarlypartier Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) I am waiting for an MA SSHRC as well... It seems its dependent on the school to manually send in their results... Looks like you are an alternate for the University of Newfoundland and the others havent been updated yet... ***I was just put on alternate as well.... anyone know what this means exactly?? Edited April 1, 2014 by scholarlypartier
trajectory7 Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I was told that the results could be delayed because of time zones (so, west coast could possibly post decisions closer to end of day or even tomorrow). That being said, one of the first notifications I received today was from out west, so I guess it just depends when they get around to it! Good luck, all!
gleefullygloomy Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I just was listed as an alternate for McGill. I have no idea what that means?
trajectory7 Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I just was listed as an alternate for McGill. I have no idea what that means? I think that means you are on the wait list for the first round. If people decline, it may be offered to you (depending on your position on the wait list). Hope that helps!
gleefullygloomy Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I think that means you are on the wait list for the first round. If people decline, it may be offered to you (depending on your position on the wait list). Hope that helps! Good to know! I had actually turned down McGill (they offered no funding), so I am hoping that this is no reflection on my applications through other schools. This process has been rather confusing to be honest.
rj16 Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I'm an alternate for the one that matters too!! Honestly, it feels like an achievement anyway. Good luck to you all! nosleeping and scholarlypartier 2
maddaddam Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I got an email saying my status changed but the research portal just says "recieved by administrator". T__T
Boxling Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I was offered a SSHRC CGS-M for both Memorial and Queens that I will be declining shortly. I'm not 100% sure how the process works, but I take that to mean that alternates for those schools may hear something new soon!
maddaddam Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 For those applying to Ontario unis, has anyone heard from OGS?
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