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  1. Duke has already sent out offers to the PhD for all GPR tracks and has notified those on the wait list. The ThD has also sent out offers, but I'm not sure if they have notified for the wait list. I would presume so, but I don't know for sure so wanted to be clear.
  2. PhD invites to the prospective student weekend have already been sent out for all tracks (the weekend is Feb 17-18). I don't know about ThD (they usually lag behind the PhD). Wait list for PhD will probably go out when those invited to the prospective student weekend get their official offer letters (usually about 1 to 2 weeks after the student weekend).
  3. I'm almost positive TT means Tenure Track with reference to jobs. Seems like you're using it to mean Top Tier?? Someone can land a TT job at a SLAC (small liberal arts college) or at an R1 (top ranked research university).
  4. Ya. I wouldn't suggest moving across the country to go there. But if you're relatively local I think it is a solid option.
  5. careful with taking what you hear from Kirk's blog without that necessary grain of salt. There are plenty of faculty (some assistant profs even) who have the same position as Kirk and haven't been fired or denied tenure. There's more than meets the eye on that one. Not saying I agree that he wasn't granted tenure; only to say that if it was for those doctrinal reasons then a lot more faculty would have/be experiencing the same thing.
  6. That being said, I think you're overselling Fuller a little bit. Why the distinction between Duke/PTS/Yale and Harvard? Why are Baylor and TEDS in the same category? Fuller can get you into all the programs you listed, sure. But I also think it's fair to say that a person coming from HDS, DDS, YDS, etc. probably has an even better chance because the opportunities for the things you describe are more readily available. At least GC students can take courses at Harvard. Ha. Ya. I don't know what my brain was doing there. I'm not sure why I lumped Baylor in with TEDS. But Baylor is still not quite up there yet with Duke, PTS, Yale etc. although it is gaining more and more of a great name (their stipend package helps!). Still don't know why I made it seem as if TEDS was on par with them. I put Harvard in its own category as far as coming from Fuller is concerned. Given their commitments and values they probably aren't looking for someone from Fuller.
  7. FWIW to lurkers: I had very similar scores and got into Duke PhD. 166 V, 159Q, and 5AW.
  8. First, I just want to be yet another voice who is saying the same general thing as @menge already summed up nicely: "Reputation is constructed differently by different communities" and that it depends upon your goal (if/where you would like to teach or if you're just looking for a ministry position, etc.). Also, if you're thinking about PhD later, then you want to make sure that where you do your M* has faculty that are well known in the field you want to go into for PhD studies and also that these faculty have good connections to the faculty at the institutions you're looking at for PhD work. So for me, like @marXian, I went to Fuller. I wanted to eventually do a PhD in NT and Joel Green and Marianne Meye Thompson are as good as they come in that field and they have strong networks with Duke faculty (Marianne is a Duke alum and another one of my recommenders is a relatively recent Duke alum too). They are not only the reason I am prepared for PhD work, but also they are likely a MAJOR reason I was accepted into Duke for a PhD in NT. So for you, if GC has the kind of faculty that will make your recommendation letters stand out and you'll get the training you need to prepare you well for PhD work (and you're in a nice financial position), then staying there is great. Don't worry too much about an "general" or "overall" reputation of the name "Gordon-Conwell" (unless you're looking for a ministry position in which case school name means a lot), worry more about the reputation of the faculty in the field you want to do a PhD in. BUTTT...I'm obviously partial to Duke so if you can swing the $$, transfer and we can be buds. (Note to others that may be deterred by MarXian's comment re Fuller): I am compelled to somewhat defend Fuller just because without them, I wouldn't be where I am today. Fuller is what you make of it. If you want to do a rigorous academic degree you totally can (you have to be sure to take classes with the "Big Names" in your field and jump in on as many of their PhD seminars as you can for electives). They have strong faculty in NT, OT, and ST. If you want a more ministerial track, then that's available as well. They did change their curriculum requirements as MarXian noted, but they still offer all those classes. Again, you just have to plan your degree electives according to your end goals. Also, know that Fuller can get you into your Dukes, PTSs, and Yales if you play your cards (classes) right (and definitely your Baylors and TEDSs), but it is likely not going to help you get into Harvards.
  9. Hey folks. I'm new to Android and unfortunately Accordance does not have an app for Android so I am left without Hebrew and Greek ok my phone. Rumor has it that they are developing one right now, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask in the mean time. Anyone know of any solid apps? Thanks!
  10. I'd be curious to know for some friends that want to apply there in the next year or two.
  11. I am also an anecdotal witness to this kind of thing happening, but I wouldn't suggest this as a route to take for anyone. I did my undergrad at a small bible college that is still in the process of ABHE accreditation to this day (and I graduated in '09). I couldn't get into pretty much any M* programs because of it, but I ended up getting into an evangelical seminary and did a whole year there (4.0) to prove to the other seminary I wanted to go to (that had big name faculty in my field) that I could do actually do good work. And now I have just been admitted into Duke's NT PhD program. Talk about a rags to riches story. BUT! This was stressful as hell. I wouldn't risk it. Yes, Liberty is accredited, but, especially as of late, it has such a repulsive reputation among the kinds of people you eventually want to associate with, that I wouldn't risk it. I would take @telkanuru's advice. Also, if you can't swing it now (a move/an on campus work load), why do you think you'll be able to do all that for your M* degree(s)?
  12. Congrats!! If you take their offer I'll see you there in the fall.
  13. I'll be moving from CA to NC to go to Duke (PhD in NT)!!
  14. Bummer I won't see you (maybe at an AAR/SBL though!), but I'm glad you made the right choice for you!
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