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I just wish the humanities people stop would stop crying. Everyone has it rough. It's not like just because I'm an engineer I get automatic grants from everywhere. It's just as competitive. It's tough being an engineer. If you design something incorrectly you can get someone killed. May it be a drug, a building, a medical device, or even a car. The tiniest error of even nanoseconds or microns can cause disaster. So many accidents have occurred because of poor engineering, its terrible, yet engineering is unavoidable in anything so we need better and more engineers to keep up with the demands. It's what people want.

It's like some of you (not all) act like you are martyrs or something or actually better than us even though you didn't get admitted. I was chatting with a few people in humanities the other day saying they did what they wanted to do because it is what they loved, and I respect that. But when people start demanding respect because they feel underprivileged that just gets ridiculous. I'm sure if an English major and a engineer swapped shoes for a day both would actually realize how tough it is. And like I said, the world is the way it is because that's the way it is, so stop complaining and actually go do something. Maybe if you showed some strengths you would get more funding. If you showed Obama more progress in your field he wouldn't cut your funding first.

So far in this thread the only for-English argument posed was by one person about being the Cinderella of academia. All of the rest was just personal attacks or crying.So for all the tough ones out there in humanities , mad props. To all the sorry complainers, tough luck.

I have the most respect for people in all fields and think no less of one or the other. However, the "respect' is lower simply because of the applications of English pale in comparison to many other fields which have far larger impacts and address more pressing needs in the world. To most people, this is why English and many other Liberal Arts seem less "important".

Again, your overly long and pompous post does nothing but further evidence your ignorance of the humanities and their impact.

I'd like to spell it out for you, but if you honestly think the fine arts are reduced to reading, writing and communication, then I doubt any rhetoric in the history of the world could convince you otherwise.

EDIT: And I do not even believe the humanities exceed science--I'm firmly affixed to a middle where both are fundamentally and differently important. Your scientific metrics are simply insufficient and inapplicable to judge the humanities.

Reading the result board posts (specifically for English) has officially become serial lobotomy. Does anyone think the next six years of any person's life should be reduced to an apostrophe? Is pernicious (not to mention banal) wit an appropriate response to the time, psychic energy, and financial expense required of the application process? It's troubling that PhD applicants can find no better use of their intellect than to impugn themselves, their prospective institutions, future careers, and presumed depth of understanding with so much bland brain matter. Sadly, no amount of good grammar can season it to taste.

This is a stressful time. Please remember, the eyes of more futures than your own look over those posts with alternating hope and pause. Own acceptance, rejection, and the creamy anxiety in between with a little class.

Vandy - rolling admissions
Candler - should know by March 1st about other funding.

Cool story, bro.


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Sheesh, he/she could have stuck up for you a little bit.

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Whoa. Does babelfish translate this language?

I love your personal attacks. If I consider you ignorant and you consider me ignorant, at least I will not do not launch personal attacks. But whatever it doesn't matter, to each is own. If you want to argue against me that is fine, but at least use argument or provide examples. Regardless, as I have said I respect the people and the field just as much as any other. But there are reasons why most people, even many of those highly educated put science and engineering above humanities. I don't know if it's right or wrong, but that is just the way it is. They are not equal as of now and they never have been, either one way or the other.

They sent me an email saying they enjoyed my essay and I was still eligible for scholarships--just not the good ones ("Please be assured that you will be fully considered for a range of other scholarships beginning early next month.")(with some degree of hyperbole here). Honestly, I wanted to go to Emory for the scholars at the GTU -- not the M.Div program. The M.Div program isn't that great. It's the the "getting my foot in the door" for the GDU at Emory that I wanted to do. I'm actually still waiting on my PHD applications -- the Mdiv was my plan B!

Let's be real: I've got a MA and post-grad degree in religion. If I have to pay-in again.... I will never get out of debt. Cripes, I've almost got enough to buy two fancy cars! Unless they can wave 80% of my tuition, they don't deserve me. Sorry to be a slapdick, but I've got several published articles, I work for a theological journal as right hand man to my editor (Most PHDs cant even say that!), I teach, I work as a research/teaching assistant--have solid grades in all of my programs AND I'm involved in my community with all sorts of service that I don't get credit for 99% of the time! Can't wave tuition? I'll find someone better who can. Yes, I'm butthurt about this -- kind of offended even, but I sure as hell won't be giving them my 100 bucks deposit until they show me what "range of other scholarships beginning early next month" that I will be getting if I write them a check. And I sure as hell won't pay-in anything more than 20% to Emory -- the Baals of Coca-Cola for crying out loud!

/rant off -- I feel better now.

BTW: this post is not grammatically/typographically sound.

The criminal kind?

I am - Chi Phi, University of Tennessee. Just curious to see who else is with me.

I am - Chi Phi, University of Tennessee. Just curious to see who else is with me.

Cool story, bro.


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1) Run around my house and shriek.
2) Consume an enormous amount of delicious wine.
3) Regret #2 the next morning, but cheer myself up by buying shoes.
4) Possibly go to Disneyland.

Like some others have mentioned, this will also be the list if I am rejected from all the school with the minor change to # 1 (shriek and cry).

Schools (generally) give interviews to the applicants they are seriously considering. So, don't think of it as a first cut. Sure it's the first cut that the applicant sees, but in reality it might be the 4th or 5th cut. At least that's what I'm going to let myself believe. Although, the above is correct about not receiving the invitation to an interview as signaling that you will likely not be admitted to that program.

I thought it'd be interesting to pull some stats out of last years data, just for curiosities' sake.
Take all of this with a large shovel of salt since none of this is scientific. And it is all based on voluntary (probably inaccurate) reporting. But anyway ...

"Top" 10 schools based on "Average Accepted GPA"

Stanford University 3.84 Princeton University 3.83 University Of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) 3.80 University Of Washington, Seattle 3.79 University Of California, Berkeley (UCB) 3.78 Cornell University 3.78 New York University (NYU) 3.78 Massachusetts Institute Of Technology (MIT) 3.76 University Of Chicago 3.75 Harvard University 3.74 "Toughest" 10 schools based on "Average Rejected GPA"

University Of Michigan, Ann Arbor 3.78 Harvard University 3.78 Princeton University 3.78 Brown University 3.78 California Institute Of Technology (Caltech) 3.77 Stanford University 3.77 Yale University 3.75 Massachusetts Institute Of Technology (MIT) 3.74 University Of North Carolina, Chapel Hill (UNC) 3.73 Cornell University 3.733 "Most popular" 10 programmes in Fall 2010 based on number of acceptances and rejections

Economics 4198 Computer Science 2994 Philosophy 2159 English 2082 Physics 1841 Political Science 1744 Mathematics 1294 Sociology 1056 History 813 Statistics 659 Obviously all of this is heavily dependent on the number of users to the site and their particular interest. Seems like economists have nothing better to do than apply and post their data ;-).

Again, that is the way it works. You need to stop despairing and listen to what I'm saying from experience. If you started the thread just to wallow, then fine. But don't solicit advice then ignore it.

And yes it is too much to ask. British universities aren't accustomed to giving out unconditional offers unless the person has already finished the degree. If it is Oxbridge, you will definitely not get an unconditional, as your offer will be "conditional" on acceptance to a college. Willingness to pay has nothing to do with the process.

That's the spirit!

I mean, I've been saying since high school that my plan B was "street chemist"

I mean, I've been saying since high school that my plan B was "street chemist"

Yep. Grad school is the first step to be a history professor at a sweet college somewhere nice. Goodness, if my only option turns out to be working at a for-profit college or struggling as a community college adjunct for the rest of my life, my Plan Bs are going to kick in hard. But no! I have decided it won't happen to me! I am worthy! Lalalalala!

I know it's wishful thinking but I can't help it.

If you really can't go, then you can't. It wouldn't hurt to talk let them know why you won't be able to make it (exams). I'm sure they'd understand that you have schoolwork to finish up at your current institution.