Oshawott
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A lot of profs either don't have time to respond or don't want to bias their impressions of applicants due to familiarity so they have canned responses (likely Prof #2) so I wouldn't look into it.
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It's up to you if you want to quit because you aren't interested in the task, but if you've only recently volunteered, that's probably the reason they're not putting you on anything bigger versus other students who have been there longer.
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I know people who went through a clinical program because their research interests involved clinical populations. Unless you're in the same boat, I don't see a reason why you need to be in a clinical program given your preferred focus.
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It's field specific but as far as I can tell conference proceedings don't seem to get any weight in psych. If there's a doi that can link people to your abstract online, I'd just add it at the end of your presentation citation (I've seen people linking presentations/posters to online repositories like OSF).
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I'd choose #3 if your advisor can't take you to the new institution (or alternatively see if you can apply to the new institution and get accepted as well)
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Insights because I graduated from UofT. Their thesis program (at the time I was there) only took 15 students. I hear its up to 20 now. At the time, you couldn't take the 4th year honours thesis without being in the program, and the program takes up 1.5 years with an independent project course in Winter (usually third year) prior to the start of your actual thesis year. Perhaps its changed, but considering things are getting more competitive, I doubt it.
If you want to go back, you can take PSY405/406 courses, which are independent study credits. I know people who had taken them after graduation, and depending on your supervisor you'd end up doing just as much work as an actual thesis (some people put you into existing projects, other people have you develop your own). In terms of jobs, you can look up research positions at CAMH, though these are also fairly competitive and everyone I knew got them through an existing network.
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I know people who went to grad school for similar programs (counseling/social work/clinical) past their mid-to-late 30's. Since your husband has a good job that allows you to focus on school and volunteering, I don't see why you shouldn't just wait it out another year (or two) while becoming more competitive by volunteering in labs for SFU/UBC.
I know of some people who 'settled' for a program they didn't want to be in and they didn't thrive.
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Sounds surprisingly similar to this topic so you could probably gain some insight here:
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If you don't see yourself doing clinical practice at all, then there's no point in doing clinical unless your research interests need a clinical population. I've seen other PhDs get non-academic positions if you're worried about job prospects. Your program just isn't going to be tailored to getting those positions and you'll have to put in the extra work.
People underestimate the importance of supervisor relationship, and given that your ultimate goal is research, a good supervisor and better training is crucial.
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As an aside, Vanier prioritizes leadership skills as well, and a lot of academics fall short on that end. I know (second hand) of a person in the Humanities who received a Vanier because of her public outreach despite not being competitive for regular SSHRC CGS because of a lack of research output.
Every school has different allocations as well. Clearly Waterloo's applicant pool were strong on the research end, but you have to look at your own institution's applicants as well.
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This topic comes up a lot but the last point @lewin quoted is probably the most important by far. Programs get their reputations because of their faculty. Sometimes excellent faculty mentors just happen to be at smaller schools because of their own choosing. Above all else, look at where your POI is placing people, because they could be amazing researchers at amazing schools but are just not great mentors and have students falling through the cracks.
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On 2/8/2018 at 11:54 PM, lewin said:
What's your research area? In social, at the major conferences (SPSP, APS) it's hard or nay impossible (SESP) for a student to present. Instead you could seek out regional or specialized conferences (e.g., ISJR, SPSSI, IARR, MPA, EPA) where getting a talk accepted is easier. Or, apply to a SPSP preconference that has a grad student session or data blitz. I think 1-2 posters per year is just standard/expected for a grad student but it's not unusual to have no/few talks in social because people know the rejection rates are high. The real utility of a talk is more than the CV line; it's that people see you and your research personally. ("Every talk is a job talk.")
Data blitz (or at least the name) seems to be a new(ish) thing for social-personality so I haven't seen it much in CVs. Should I be differentiating it on a CV from a regular talk?
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19 hours ago, inneedofadvice2018 said:
Hi @Oshawott! I'd say it's the $ and the fact that my current advisor won't let me use any existing datasets to write my thesis and/or dissertation are the two factors preventing me from staying where I am now and publishing with external collaborators
While I cautioned being wary, if your supervisor is actually obstructing your ability to complete your dissertation, then there's not much to lose by leaving because you aren't gaining much by staying.
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On 2/3/2018 at 2:59 PM, inneedofadvice2018 said:
I chose the program, because it was the only one I had gotten into.
I know people who only joined the program I'm in because it was the only one they got into. The program itself isn't bad, but they weren't flourishing because they literally didn't want to be there.
If you are able and don't mind starting over then why not? But I would worry how this could come off on your current supervisor especially since they didn't seem particularly happy with you finding external research opportunities. I'd also be worried how these other programs would perceive your application so unless these other professors are the ones taking you in, it might be a big risk. What's stopping you from just staying where you are and continuing to work and publish with your external collaborators?
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5 hours ago, Eigen said:
Why is it shitty? Asking for an alternate visit date implies to the school that you're not the first choice, and are choosing another schools visit over them.
It's only fair for the school to wonder if it's worth scheduling and paying for an entire alternate visit just to suit you when you're far more likely to go elsewhere.
The other school was committed to first so its not a case of both schools sending invites at the same time and prioritizing a preferred school. Presumably the POI knows this so the question strikes as odd especially the comment "if you found that you liked the program after the visit, would it be your first choice?" You wouldn't really know the answer to that. At best, the only thing one could know is how much they like each program before they visit which is what I think the professor wants to ask, which I think is legitimate, but they didn't.
@schenar just be honest and say that the other program had extended you an interview last month so it is too late to reschedule that visit, and that rescheduling doesn't reflect any preferences on your part. Also state what you've said: it is too early for you to assert whether either program is a top choice, but add that you only applied to schools that you were enthusiastic about attending (unless you didn't and this school isn't that). I'd leave out the part where they weren't "the top choice" because many things can affect where you end up going despite your initial rankings, and you shouldn't be penalized for ranking your applications and then updating when relevant information arises.
I agree with @Developmental33 that what the professor asked was not...tactful (or even useful because you could just lie and say yes this is your top program) but you should not let this rile you up. Academia is a small place so you don't want to be leaving bad impressions, especially when the power dynamics are against you.
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10 hours ago, lewin said:
Serious point - This won't matter because (almost) nobody should see you using your phone. We had a potential grad student visiting who was playing with his phone while I was giving him the lab tour. Did not reflect well. Keep it in your pocket unless you're alone.
Yeah if you're concerned about people seeing your cracked phone and making a bad impression, just don't pull out your phone.
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On 1/13/2018 at 12:56 PM, mary109 said:
I know Georgetown has a dual MPP/PhD Psychology program which sounds ideal for me. While Georgetown's is renowned for the policy program, I don't know about the quality of their PhD Psychology program. But I cannot find many other dual degree programs like this. (I have been looking into NYU's Psychology and Social Intervention program). Also I don't have much research experience, and I know this is a priority in PhD Psychology programs, so if I decide to apply to Phd Psych programs, I would first have to get research experience under my belt first.
Princeton has a joint degree in Psychology and Social Policy and I really like some of their psych prof's work in the area. I can't really asses how good Princeton's social policy program is (but I'm gonna make a random guess and say its of sufficient quality) but if your focus is a good psych PhD program with a public policy slant then this sounds like a good fit if you want an advanced degree in those areas.
Overall though, I agree with @eternallyephemeral and @rising_star's assessment that the PhD path probably isn't the best one for you based on your goals.
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5 hours ago, Piagetsky said:
Does anyone have a second to explain this process to a noob? I got an email from SSHRC that says "acknowledgement of application." Does that mean anything? This is the first I've heard from anyone since applying. I'm a little behind the curve on applying for these national scholarships because I wasn't eligible until right before the deadline at my school. Do I have it right that each school you're currently attending has a quota and they pass X number of applications on to the national competition? If so, then what?
They've received your application at the national level and are now reviewing it.
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On 12/19/2017 at 3:33 PM, pinoysoc said:
Ah thanks for the clarification. If you're planning to work in academia, doing these things for free, but getting to put this on your CV is pretty much the standard form of payment. I only asked those questions to get a feel of where you are coming from. You can always do a set fee (i.e. $200 per talk or price basing it on venue size). Again, I'm coming from an academic background where getting invitations to talk and having it on one's CV outweighs financial compensation. Also, from an altruistic POV, these talks (if you're doing them on your free time) should be considered as free since you're doing this on the merit of having time to inspire others. Just my two cents.
There's a difference between submitting research to a conference, getting accepted, and disseminating your research for free, and being asked to be a keynote speaker (or similar position) for an event, academic or otherwise. At the very least, if you are inviting someone to give a talk you should be reimbursing travel expenses, food, and accommodation if they have to stay overnight, which is what (as far as I can tell) all departments do when they invite speakers from outside their school to speak.
The "merit to inspire others" doesn't outweigh the financial burden of asking speakers to not only speak for free, but also not reimbursing any sort of accommodations which seems to be what's happening here. Academics are also paid to lecture by their university, and paid to do research. Creating a talk, the travel time, etc. all eat up time that you are actually paid for. There's also the fact that non-academics are also asked to give talks in industry "to inspire others" and I guarantee that most, if not all, industry speakers are charging fees.
Anyway here's an article on the CHE on deciding your speaker fee:
https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/whats-your-speaking-fee/52531
Here's another article from ChronicleVitae on the different type of speaking gigs and what can be expected as speaker fees:
https://chroniclevitae.com/news/1678-speaking-as-an-academic
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On 12/26/2017 at 9:54 PM, LauraV said:
But she's old school, very mentall limited I believe artistically. And she is like 2 years younger than I am?
Why would you....ask a person you don't even seem to hold in high regard for a reference letter?
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5 hours ago, MarineBluePsy said:
@lewin Actually the phrasing regarding internship and post doc was based on my thoughts about it (that all of the contents of the application matter) and what my advisor actually said (that the only thing that matters is who you meet/know from large conferences) so the phrasing was intentional. I am perfectly fine with both being important (as I understand that in plenty of circumstances that is the case), but my advisor disagrees with that and further discussion on this resulted again in my being told that the *only* thing that matters is attending these large conferences to network.
I think there's a miscommunication here. The contents of your application do matter, but in terms of whether you should spend money on conferences or not, its the networking opportunities that matter. Poster presentations aren't really held to a high regard when evaluating CVs, and every senior academic I've met has warned against organizing a symposium because it is a time-sink unless you manage to get a big-named person on board (i.e., you grow your network). For the most part, any good research at these conferences are either already published, in press, or will be in press in the next few months and those that aren't just get dropped and there's rarely a repository for posters/talks for you to cite anyway. Now if your supervisor is telling you that your CV doesn't matter for post docs that's just irresponsible.
There are certainly smaller conferences (depending on your area) where good networking can be done (but they might not be local enough for you depending on your location) such as the Midwestern Psychological Association or the new Society for the Improvement of Psychological Science conference. Of course, I only mention these two because when I look at who's attending, its people who I would be interested in working with for a post-doc so smaller conferences may differ for you.
If you're dead-set on these smaller conferences, why not try to address your supervisor's concerns? Are there any researchers who you want to work with going to these conferences? Or is it just going to be a line on your CV? Of course the latter isn't that bad if you're planning on applying for scholarships and need to show research productivity in some capacity but as you progress in grad school, conferences shouldn't be CV fillers but instead a way to meet new people who you can collaborate with.
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4 hours ago, eternallyephemeral said:
Cool thanks! My department administrator said I would hear something this time if I made it through, whereas if I didn't hear anything last round (from the department to the university level), that meant I did make it through. That switch was very confusing!
I just checked the Grad External Scholarship link (thanks for that!) but I didn't see anything for the doctoral scholarship (only my masters applications from this past year and the year before). Is the doctoral SSHRC supposed to show up there?
Its supposed to show all scholarships that you applied for regardless of whether its successful or not. It could be that the school's been slower updating it this year? People only knew right before the break last year so it could be that they're not sending it until after the break this time.
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5 hours ago, eternallyephemeral said:
Unfortunately yes : (
If anyone else at Western has heard back, I'd love to know. Can't tell if I didn't hear anything because I didn't make it, or because they didn't notify anyone.
I was told that people who were rejected knew by the time the break started (otherwise you wouldn't hear anything). You can always check your status on the student center under "Finances" (the "Graduate External Scholarship" link) and that would be updated even if they haven't gotten around to sending emails yet.
Best of luck!
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Strange situation where both parents had university degrees but because they were immigrants from [not a Western, English-speaking, developed nation] it was almost as if the degrees didn't really matter? I also just found out my mother actually went to get her Master's (and dropped out after coursework and before completing a thesis) in accounting which I was never told until after I got my own Master's...
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I got my results and went from being ranked around the middle last year to fairly close to the end. I didn't change much, and I thought I'd have a better shot this year since they asked us to talk about the importance of three of our publications and I had more research experience outside the university, but otherwise my profile was identical. I guess it just goes to show how random everything here is, or maybe there was a red flag in my application lol