anthropologygeek

I hope you are accepted off the waitlist.

One thing to keep in mind, most universities won't let you be a tenure professor if you went there for your phd so if all things equal why not leave a school you would love to teach at open for potential jobs.

Strud- what I am saying is anyone can get funding at a university. It may take a good 10 hr of man power but funding opportunities thru the university is available and easily gotten. The point I'm trying to make is go where you truly want since funding will always be available even if it isn't just offered with acceptance. Plus that guarantees nothing. Every year the reevaluate the funding and can take it away, doesn't happen most of the time but is a possibility. That's why you must resign your contract every year even though supposedly it was for four years its not but most likely will be

Sarab- That's up to the person but to me, why wouldn't a person want to set themselves up for the best chance to get a good job since now a days it is so tough to get jobs? Each of us has our own specific niche, so why not go to the very best advisor you can that can train you to be the very best anthropologist in that niche? This will lead you to more connections which can lead you to a foot in the dorr with jobs.i guess the way I see it why worry about 20-40k a year of funding, including tuition, for what two years while your at the university before you leave for research when most likely you find funding at the better fit and gives you the best odds to make 80k a year job vs 25k a year job which is what a lot of phd graduates are applying for today.

Sarab- what I am saying is funding has no influence on fit. Fit is what it is and the better the fit, the better your research will be, the better job you can land. People on here so no one should go without funding. I know I am in the minority here but in real life I'm in the majority. A lot of people don't have funding and spend a little more effort and obtain funding within a month of moving to the school. Most profs give funding based on various reasons which most of the time involve politics and not merit. But within a month, a lot of times the advisor hooks the advisee up with funding in the department. One of my advisor's advisee has funding only because someone else got external funding and was told in late July they got it. If person went someplace else with a lesser fit they wouldn't be in their ideal fit school and came here since it was their fist choice.

Kenny- part of the way you get jobs is getting funding for your research. Thus you should be able to fund yourself at least half the time your there. Universities look to see if you can get funding during the hiring process. If you haven't gotten funding for your research you may have a lot of trouble on the job market. And seriously why not out in a little more effort for the perfect fit which will provide you with better opportunities. I know a lot of people who go with no funding and within one month get funding either in the department or different department. And most of the time the funding is better in different departments since anthro is one of the lowest paid departments at the university

Canis- schools aren't specifically PC. My undergrad was apple, my masters uni was dell, and my phd was apple but I assume your uni is pc

Mutual- please explain what's programs are most prestigious to least prestigious and that would be super easy to prove. Say university of arizona less than Yale yet someone got their phd from uofa and teaches a Yale. Is that what you wanted?

And I'm just being honest. If you are confident in your ability to find money for your phd funding wouldn't be a priority

Day kid- no cheap shot just the truth. I never worried about funding because I knew by the time I started any program I would have funding somehow. It's all about your skill at grant writing and being creative. If your not just giving funding but its the best school for you why not put in the extra effort and find funding thru a different department, or get a fellowship? Why not apply to all the JC and teach a couple of classes? All this takes more effort and from experience most people won't put in the extra effort.

Day kid- you must not think very highly of yourself or your research. You should only be funded by your department for a year or two max. By then your have to leave and do your research thus give up the funding and should be funded by outside sources. Maybe I just have more faith in myself than other have in themselves since funding was never a factor in my decission making and ill be graduating in may with my phd with a total of 20k student loans for undergrad, masters, and phd. Not to shabby and that 20k was while I was in undergrad

Fit is most important since your always be able to find funding once you get there.

fasboo- that sounds like you were wait listed but huh on the list. For those waiting on results from schools that have notified, a lot of schools have unofficial waiting list. So you may be on that.

I have a dell laptop and Mac book pro. The dell was giving to me for my fellowship, it was included in the fellowship. I use my Mac book pro but with a lot of stat programs they give a month free before you must pay like a grand so I used both for this so I wouldn't have to pay

Anthro flea- couldn't agree more

Dig deep- congrats Daisy- sorry about that. Their lost not yours. Me so- I'm sorry to hear that. May you make them regret this decission

Daisy- Notre dame have a relative new PHD program. I stand by my statement. At least in physical anthropology the name of the university means nothing. It's who you worked under, and what you did while you are there and the connections you have made. I can give you a list of grat physical anthropologist who work at Smaller Universities. Actually kent state used to be one of the best programs to go to for your phd. to me any R1 program is good enough to get you a good job. Dig deep has yet to state what he/she considers prestigious. And keep posted things which I countered. And for the list of top anthro programs. A college had to request to be included in the ranking so they left a lot out. As for placement- Yes I understand its not common at most schools but my university have great profs who train their advisees to be very successful. I give all the credit to our training as anthropologist by the profs to the successful job placement. Again I will say at min 50% drop out or get kicked out. If your not serious and don't show the work effort they want they will kick you out.

Yes everyone that finishes does but it has 50% drop out rate which is the average. They are very good in preparing you for the academic life and if your not progressing they kick you out. They make you find a junior college and teach a year there before you can graduate so you have that experience of designing a teaching philosophy that you need.

Dig deep- please clarify your definition of prestige. I clinked on the UPenn link, one from uc Davis and one from Arizona. I consider both those programs good, do you? If so your definition of prestige falls in line with mine but many here would counter both those schools as non prestige and that pisses me off. My first languages is English. I type on an iPad and currently don have time to proof read and this a forum not an English class. And secondly I didn't attack you all I ask was the qualification for your statement since you were so gun hole you knew better, which by the way you still haven't provided. All you did was provide links to schools in which profs are from all over which suppors my point of view. I am a true believer the name of a school provides nothing in academic jobs, If your talking industry ill admit its possible but I have never looked into that. I am a firm believer based on my own experiences and people I know getting jobs. I only told you about me to prove my qualifications to make my claims since I asked for your qualifications in making those claims

Grad at- thanks for backing me up. Interesting non ivy here but all of my schools graduates get tenure track teaching jobs within two years. Man I am so glad I didn't go to an ivy- ps I turned one ivy down of my uni based on my advisor best decission I've made and I've proven myself right in the decission

I knew all about the family tree since it is extremely important in the field and my advisor believes we should know where we come from. Dig deep- what are your qualifications for making such claims? Your just a 2014 phd app cycle candidate right? At least thats what yor profile says. I was that four years ago. I have since gotten fellowships, grants, taught countless classes, not ta but create my own classes, countless times. I have presented and been publish numerous times. Made countless connections and i have my very own resarch site and my own collection. nothing like doing my own research, getting my own money for it, getting a country permission plus all the pemissions needed. Just curious so I googled Harvard just know and only one person out of the ten I looked at went to Ivy League. I did a random sampling. Many didn't even go to an US school. And one went to UCLA great school but not an ivy so I guess that doesn't happen right? And then there was UC santa barbara totally not equal to an ivy league. My god people on here can be so stuck up. The NAME of your university means nothing. What you did and who you know are the most important thing. Most of the bes advisers are at non elitest schools. Mind you I. Physical and if you google the top physical profs they are at non-elitest schools according to this website. But guess what, they are the best to mode you into a physical anthropologist.

Displacement- I know for a act one phd graduated from ASU two years ago because they are my friend and they do graduate phd every year.

Kenny- couldn't disagree more. Considering I went through the hiring process and start soon I think I know your quoted material and your assessment is wrong. When hiring, a school determines what subfield they want to hire into and a schools name is never a determining factor. They first and foremost look at your research and are you strong at research, publishing, and getting grants. Yes by the time you graduate with your phd you should be off the school funding and funding yourself through fellowships and grants. Once they determine this they look at your academic heritage. Then they look at your teaching skills yes you must prove this not just say you can. And TAing labs won't cut it. Have you create a class from scratch? What's your teaching philosophy? Once you pass this stage you get an interview. An interview last 2-4 days depending on department. You meet with each prof individually and have lunch the grad students. Also do you have a site or collection to contribute to he department?

I do know MSU it takes 8-12 years with 10 being the average

Wanted to I applied and attended my university for a specific project. So I knew day one what I was doing so this has helped me finish on time. At my current uni, they only fund phd students four years and that's it. After four years you must find your own funding or finish. Alot of cultures don't finish but by the end of the third years they are generally off doing their research on fellowships. And then you have to actor in about 50 percent of your cohort will drop out which belief it or not is actually real since so far 3 of the 7 people in my cohort has dropped out and 1 is thinking about it.