OISE MT P/J and MACSE Fall 2019 Applicants

[carnations]

Thanks for your response, @HOPEFULFOROISE :)

Congratulations!

[xtrahotlatte]

For those who have been accepted into MA-CSE, are you for sure accepting your offer?

[Olivia11]

22 hours ago, carnations said:

hey everyone, 

congratulations to those who have been accepted thus far to their program!

to those who have been admitted, when did you apply? i'm sure it may make little difference; i applied early january to p/j (my dream!) and i am a bit worried!

to those of us waiting, take heart!

 

I applied before the November 15 deadline too. It might depend on when all of your supporting documents were received (LORs and transcripts) - I'm sure these factors would alter the time of notice for your acceptance. 

[carnations]

thanks for answering, @Olivia11! that makes sense to me : )

congratulations on your acceptance!

Edited February 27, 2019 by carnations

[juniper1012]

3 hours ago, xtrahotlatte said:

iFor those who have been accepted into MA-CSE, are you for sure accepting your offer?

I accepted!

[HOPEFULFOROISE]

6 hours ago, xtrahotlatte said:

For those who have been accepted into MA-CSE, are you for sure accepting your offer?

Just remember that the MT P/J program is still good! I've done a lot of research and there are many pros to the MT P/J program.

1. The MT program has classes a child development course. It's only one course but you can also do a specialization in "can studies in curriculum and pedagogy". There are also several other specializations (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://pepper.oise.utoronto.ca/pepper/Utilities/annemarie/Year2Areas.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiJ-LSIqt3gAhVn94MKHaEAAggQFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw2W292S1Wt_9P8CO0MLwGKF) which can look good on a resume.

- i think you can do an early learning specialization and special Ed specialization with the MACSE.

2. The MT program has single classes teaching you how to effectively teach every school subject. The MACSE program does not have this. They have a courses teaching you literacy and language, and one on math, and several seminars which I think (but not entirely sure)  go over other subjects).

3. The MT program is still cohort based. You are placed in a group of 25-35 people and you stay with the group for the entirety of the program. The MACSE has a larger 60-70 person cohort.

4. You complete a major research paper for the MT program. This can look good on an application for future graduate work. Only the MACSE research stream does a research paper. This can be good or bad depending on how you feel about research. If it means anything, I saw an example of a MT research paper and it was 70 pages. It was made up of a literature review and the study.

5. The MT program could be considered more diverse. It's a master of teaching; teaching can be very diverse in a sense that individuals in other careers require teachers. The MACSE is in child studies; child studies could be considered a much more narrow field in terms of applying your education to other possible careers.

6. If you plan on gaining qualifications to teach other age groups (J/I or I/S), the MT is probably better because it's a bit more broad. 

And a few other notes;

- you can take further AQ courses to be considered a specialist in certain areas. 

- you can do further graduate work (a degree or diploma) to learn more about child studies.

- the MACSE program is taught in a mansion. If you're particular about environment, this could be important.

- exclusivity DOES NOT mean better. I highly doubt a future employer would question why you did MT over MACSE; they would likely just be impressed that you went to OISE and have a master degree.

- I've heard people say that both programs can be narrow minded, which may be something to keep in mind depending on your likes/dislikes.

- this program is $12500 a year. Other BEd programs are $6000-8000. Someone could decide not to go to OISE because of the price tag, so there's still a chance for anyone on a waitlist.

-based on the course catalogue, some of the MACSE courses seem to focus on studying children, not teaching. However, my guess is that they are courses on studying children and adapting to be able to teach them (maybe?).

- I have read on other forums that MACSE students feel that the MT program is less organized. I wouldn't buy too much into this because this opinion isn't coming from MT students.

And just my personal opinion. MT was originally my primary choice on my application, I got a good vibe from the orientation. However when I submitted the application I later changed it to MACSE because I liked the child focus. I think both programs are great; if I get off of the MACSE waitlist I'm not entirely sure if I'll even accept it because the MT program has many benefits that the MACSE does not have. Also sorry for the VERY long read, but I hope it helps :).

[xtrahotlatte]

38 minutes ago, HOPEFULFOROISE said:

Just remember that the MT P/J program is still good! I've done a lot of research and there are many pros to the MT P/J program.

1. The MT program has classes a child development course. It's only one course but you can also do a specialization in "can studies in curriculum and pedagogy". There are also several other specializations (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://pepper.oise.utoronto.ca/pepper/Utilities/annemarie/Year2Areas.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiJ-LSIqt3gAhVn94MKHaEAAggQFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw2W292S1Wt_9P8CO0MLwGKF) which can look good on a resume.

- i think you can do an early learning specialization and special Ed specialization with the MACSE.

2. The MT program has single classes teaching you how to effectively teach every school subject. The MACSE program does not have this. They have a courses teaching you literacy and language, and one on math, and several seminars which I think (but not entirely sure)  go over other subjects).

3. The MT program is still cohort based. You are placed in a group of 25-35 people and you stay with the group for the entirety of the program. The MACSE has a larger 60-70 person cohort.

4. You complete a major research paper for the MT program. This can look good on an application for future graduate work. Only the MACSE research stream does a research paper. This can be good or bad depending on how you feel about research. If it means anything, I saw an example of a MT research paper and it was 70 pages. It was made up of a literature review and the study.

5. The MT program could be considered more diverse. It's a master of teaching; teaching can be very diverse in a sense that individuals in other careers require teachers. The MACSE is in child studies; child studies could be considered a much more narrow field in terms of applying your education to other possible careers.

6. If you plan on gaining qualifications to teach other age groups (J/I or I/S), the MT is probably better because it's a bit more broad. 

And a few other notes;

- you can take further AQ courses to be considered a specialist in certain areas. 

- you can do further graduate work (a degree or diploma) to learn more about child studies.

- the MACSE program is taught in a mansion. If you're particular about environment, this could be important.

- exclusivity DOES NOT mean better. I highly doubt a future employer would question why you did MT over MACSE; they would likely just be impressed that you went to OISE and have a master degree.

- I've heard people say that both programs can be narrow minded, which may be something to keep in mind depending on your likes/dislikes.

- this program is $12500 a year. Other BEd programs are $6000-8000. Someone could decide not to go to OISE because of the price tag, so there's still a chance for anyone on a waitlist.

-based on the course catalogue, some of the MACSE courses seem to focus on studying children, not teaching. However, my guess is that they are courses on studying children and adapting to be able to teach them (maybe?).

- I have read on other forums that MACSE students feel that the MT program is less organized. I wouldn't buy too much into this because this opinion isn't coming from MT students.

And just my personal opinion. MT was originally my primary choice on my application, I got a good vibe from the orientation. However when I submitted the application I later changed it to MACSE because I liked the child focus. I think both programs are great; if I get off of the MACSE waitlist I'm not entirely sure if I'll even accept it because the MT program has many benefits that the MACSE does not have. Also sorry for the VERY long read, but I hope it helps :).

For sure!

Edited February 28, 2019 by xtrahotlatte

[Hudson150]

On 2/27/2019 at 2:13 PM, xtrahotlatte said:

For those who have been accepted into MA-CSE, are you for sure accepting your offer?

I am leaning towards not accepting it, but that could change in the next week

[HOPEFULFOROISE]

38 minutes ago, Hudson150 said:

I am leaning towards not accepting it, but that could change in the next week

Any particular reason why? I'm finding it difficult to find people's opinions on the MACSE program so I'd love to hear your view!

[Hudson150]

32 minutes ago, HOPEFULFOROISE said:

Any particular reason why? I'm finding it difficult to find people's opinions on the MACSE program so I'd love to hear your view!

I just think its more geared to learning the developmental side of kids rather than teaching. MT looks more professional in my opinion but it also depends on what your end goal is. If you want to work with special ed children then the MACSE is better but it's not for everyone

[Greengoblet]

On 2/26/2019 at 4:54 PM, carnations said:

hey everyone, 

congratulations to those who have been accepted thus far to their program!

to those who have been admitted, when did you apply? i'm sure it may make little difference; i applied early january to p/j (my dream!) and i am a bit worried!

to those of us waiting, take heart!

 

I got accepted to The MT P/J stream on feb 25. I applied on exactly Nov 14. 

[Greengoblet]

On 2/27/2019 at 9:29 PM, HOPEFULFOROISE said:

Just remember that the MT P/J program is still good! I've done a lot of research and there are many pros to the MT P/J program.

1. The MT program has classes a child development course. It's only one course but you can also do a specialization in "can studies in curriculum and pedagogy". There are also several other specializations (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://pepper.oise.utoronto.ca/pepper/Utilities/annemarie/Year2Areas.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiJ-LSIqt3gAhVn94MKHaEAAggQFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw2W292S1Wt_9P8CO0MLwGKF) which can look good on a resume.

- i think you can do an early learning specialization and special Ed specialization with the MACSE.

2. The MT program has single classes teaching you how to effectively teach every school subject. The MACSE program does not have this. They have a courses teaching you literacy and language, and one on math, and several seminars which I think (but not entirely sure)  go over other subjects).

3. The MT program is still cohort based. You are placed in a group of 25-35 people and you stay with the group for the entirety of the program. The MACSE has a larger 60-70 person cohort.

4. You complete a major research paper for the MT program. This can look good on an application for future graduate work. Only the MACSE research stream does a research paper. This can be good or bad depending on how you feel about research. If it means anything, I saw an example of a MT research paper and it was 70 pages. It was made up of a literature review and the study.

5. The MT program could be considered more diverse. It's a master of teaching; teaching can be very diverse in a sense that individuals in other careers require teachers. The MACSE is in child studies; child studies could be considered a much more narrow field in terms of applying your education to other possible careers.

6. If you plan on gaining qualifications to teach other age groups (J/I or I/S), the MT is probably better because it's a bit more broad. 

And a few other notes;

- you can take further AQ courses to be considered a specialist in certain areas. 

- you can do further graduate work (a degree or diploma) to learn more about child studies.

- the MACSE program is taught in a mansion. If you're particular about environment, this could be important.

- exclusivity DOES NOT mean better. I highly doubt a future employer would question why you did MT over MACSE; they would likely just be impressed that you went to OISE and have a master degree.

- I've heard people say that both programs can be narrow minded, which may be something to keep in mind depending on your likes/dislikes.

- this program is $12500 a year. Other BEd programs are $6000-8000. Someone could decide not to go to OISE because of the price tag, so there's still a chance for anyone on a waitlist.

-based on the course catalogue, some of the MACSE courses seem to focus on studying children, not teaching. However, my guess is that they are courses on studying children and adapting to be able to teach them (maybe?).

- I have read on other forums that MACSE students feel that the MT program is less organized. I wouldn't buy too much into this because this opinion isn't coming from MT students.

And just my personal opinion. MT was originally my primary choice on my application, I got a good vibe from the orientation. However when I submitted the application I later changed it to MACSE because I liked the child focus. I think both programs are great; if I get off of the MACSE waitlist I'm not entirely sure if I'll even accept it because the MT program has many benefits that the MACSE does not have. Also sorry for the VERY long read, but I hope it helps :).

Yes, very informative. I agree with you, and MT has also revamped their program, and seem to be a bit more organized this year. Last year acceptances came out way later. 

 

[bk97]

• for people that are waiting to hear back from MT (P/J) is your SGS still "under review"? 

[carnations]

@bk97 yes, my application still reads 'under review'. i applied to p/j on january 4th; all documents were submitted by january 15th.

hope that helps!  : )

Edited March 4, 2019 by carnations

[Mm145]

Hi all! 

For those going to the welcome reception, silly question, but are you planning on dressing business casual? 

Thanks!

[Hudson150]

12 hours ago, Mm145 said:

Hi all! 

For those going to the welcome reception, silly question, but are you planning on dressing business casual? 

Thanks!

Yes, I'm planning to dress business casual

[Scotts123]

I actually had an interview to this program and never heard back after my interview. Considering people were accepted and they are already holding a welcome reception it’s not looking so good for me. I had the MACSE as my back up but I haven’t even heard back from the MT. My profile still says under review! It’s just heart breaking because I don’t see as to why I was interviewed for the MACSE and seen as a potential candidate, but with the MT I haven’t even heard back yet. Mind you P/J MT does have the highest volume of applicants, but regardless I really hope I get into this program it would mean the world to me! :(

if there’s anyone who’s in a similar situation please let me know!

[Hudson150]

3 hours ago, Scotts123 said:

I actually had an interview to this program and never heard back after my interview. Considering people were accepted and they are already holding a welcome reception it’s not looking so good for me. I had the MACSE as my back up but I haven’t even heard back from the MT. My profile still says under review! It’s just heart breaking because I don’t see as to why I was interviewed for the MACSE and seen as a potential candidate, but with the MT I haven’t even heard back yet. Mind you P/J MT does have the highest volume of applicants, but regardless I really hope I get into this program it would mean the world to me!

if there’s anyone who’s in a similar situation please let me know!

The MT applications get reviewed by a completely separate set of faculty than the MACSE program so don't worry if you didn't hear anything from the MT yet it's probably still under review. Did you apply before or after the Nov 15 date?

[Scotts123]

1 hour ago, Hudson150 said:

The MT applications get reviewed by a completely separate set of faculty than the MACSE program so don't worry if you didn't hear anything from the MT yet it's probably still under review. Did you apply before or after the Nov 15 date?

Hey thank you so much for responding to me. Yes I did, I submitted everything on November 14 and my references and transcripts were received before November 14 as well. I just would of thought since the MACSE program is smaller than the MT program, for me to have gotten an interview for the MACSE it was a good sign for the MT. The clearly doesn’t seem to be the case! 

[Greengoblet]

Did anyone get the email to attend the OISE Master of Teaching Meet and Greet Event? Anyone going? 

Edited March 17, 2019 by Greengoblet

[bk97]

On 3/17/2019 at 1:08 PM, Greengoblet said:

Did anyone get the email to attend the OISE Master of Teaching Meet and Greet Event? Anyone going? 

yes! going! 

[bk97]

On 3/15/2019 at 7:21 PM, Scotts123 said:

I actually had an interview to this program and never heard back after my interview. Considering people were accepted and they are already holding a welcome reception it’s not looking so good for me. I had the MACSE as my back up but I haven’t even heard back from the MT. My profile still says under review! It’s just heart breaking because I don’t see as to why I was interviewed for the MACSE and seen as a potential candidate, but with the MT I haven’t even heard back yet. Mind you P/J MT does have the highest volume of applicants, but regardless I really hope I get into this program it would mean the world to me!

if there’s anyone who’s in a similar situation please let me know!

 

I got interviewed and unfortunately rejected by MACSE. not even put on the waiting list. I did however get accepted to my first choice, MT. that being said, I received both my rejection and acceptance on the same day. Maybe they are waiting to know both responses for you as well, so I would still have hope. wishing you all the best! 

[HOPE4OISE]

On 3/17/2019 at 1:08 PM, Greengoblet said:

Did anyone get the email to attend the OISE Master of Teaching Meet and Greet Event? Anyone going? 

I never got an email...what did it say, if you don't mind me asking?

[carnations]

congratulations, @bk97! all's well that ends well :) congratulations on your acceptance into the mt program!

may i ask when you applied? 

[xtrahotlatte]

Please reply if you’ve been accepted to MA-CSE and you’re NOT accepting it! I’m on the waitlist and would like to know