NDSEG 2021-2022

[Another_Tired_Grad_Student]

1 minute ago, OpticsDude97 said:

Exactly, they took 3 days to notify ~ 5% of the total number of applications 

Well, catch me constantly checking my email for the next 3 weeks for the 0.0000000001% chance I get it awarded at this point ?

[mech123]

49 minutes ago, Another_Tired_Grad_Student said:

Well, catch me constantly checking my email for the next 3 weeks for the 0.0000000001% chance I get it awarded at this point ?

We should do a study on how much these fellowships actually reduce research output for this exact reason

A cursory calculation assuming everyone spends 40 hrs of labor on these applications suggests a 87.5% effectiveness of this fellowship ($3 million to ~$24 million awarded over 3 years)

Edited April 1, 2022 by mech123

[Acolyte_of_Magnetism]

4 minutes ago, mech123 said:

We should do a study on how much these fellowships actually reduce research output for this exact reason

Certainly distracted me when I was preparing for my qual

[JustScienceThings]

48 minutes ago, Another_Tired_Grad_Student said:

Well, catch me constantly checking my email for the next 3 weeks for the 0.0000000001% chance I get it awarded at this point ?

By this admittedly arbitrary metric, your chance of winning the Mega Millions lottery jackpot is approximately four orders of magnitude more likely than winning NDSEG... tangentially related fun fact: the statistical probability of getting hit by lightning is about 3 orders of magnitude more likely than winning the lottery.

[Another_Tired_Grad_Student]

14 minutes ago, JustScienceThings said:

By this admittedly arbitrary metric, your chance of winning the Mega Millions lottery jackpot is approximately four orders of magnitude more likely than winning NDSEG... tangentially related fun fact: the statistical probability of getting hit by lightning is about 3 orders of magnitude more likely than winning the lottery.

I think next year someone needs to submit this analysis and calculate the research time waste on this to NDSEG as their research proposal.

[mech123]

The fellowship coordinator specified that all awardees and honorable mentions have been notified. Hopefully we have better luck in the future!

Edited April 1, 2022 by mech123

[JustScienceThings]

27 minutes ago, mech123 said:

The fellowship coordinator specified that all awardees and honorable mentions have been notified. Hopefully we have better luck in the future!

Can confirm. She said that if you have not already been notified, then you were rejected. Rejection notifications should be coming out in mass within the hour.

[mech123]

Kind of sad that DAAD through Germany can fund almost as many americans as the DOD can for a similar fellowship

[confessionsofaphysicsgeek]

5 hours ago, JustScienceThings said:

Can confirm. She said that if you have not already been notified, then you were rejected. Rejection notifications should be coming out in mass within the hour.

Anyone receive the rejection note yet?

[Acolyte_of_Magnetism]

I received the rejection notice at about 4:30 CST. Didn't notice it until half an hour ago cause outlook sent it to a weird folder. Status on application portal is unchanged though.

[confessionsofaphysicsgeek]

1 hour ago, Acolyte_of_Magnetism said:

I received the rejection notice at about 4:30 CST. Didn't notice it until half an hour ago cause outlook sent it to a weird folder. Status on application portal is unchanged though.

Damn I must be really being ignored because I haven't even gotten the rejection. Lmao

[AmogusSyndrome]

You are not alone lol. I'm still waiting for the rejection letter to end this misery. Btw has anyone in physics got the acceptance email? 

[JustScienceThings]

1 hour ago, confessionsofaphysicsgeek said:

Anyone receive the rejection note yet?

Yes. According to it, they received “over 3142 applications” this year. As I said earlier, if you haven’t heard back in a positive manner by now, then you were rejected. Sorry mate. 

[confessionsofaphysicsgeek]

4 minutes ago, AmogusSyndrome said:

You are not alone lol. I'm still waiting for the rejection letter to end this misery. Btw has anyone in physics got the acceptance email? 

I'm wondering the same.... Did they just not take any physics people?

[chronomagus]

3 hours ago, confessionsofaphysicsgeek said:

I'm wondering the same.... Did they just not take any physics people?

To add another anecdotal data point, I'm in physics and I didn't hear anything back. No notification about anything

[Haplogene40]

I also haven't heard anything back... and never received the DoD panel update. Applied ARO Life Sciences/Genetics. I guess there's always next year ? 

[pkgts]

Not getting any sort of response from ndseg has me on maximum copium now

 

do they select a fellow for each subsection in the BAA? I submitted for physical properties of materials in ARO got no updates whatsoever

[LaserFreak16]

On 4/2/2022 at 1:58 AM, chronomagus said:

To add another anecdotal data point, I'm in physics and I didn't hear anything back. No notification about anything

Same here. I never got an update on my portal, and I still have yet to hear an outright rejection. I applied Physics AFOSR, though my subconcentration is optical physics.

 

On 4/2/2022 at 1:41 PM, pkgts said:

Not getting any sort of response from ndseg has me on maximum copium now

 

do they select a fellow for each subsection in the BAA? I submitted for physical properties of materials in ARO got no updates whatsoever

Based on previous commenters, we know some BAAs or disciplines won't distribute any awards based on available projects and funding.

[ghostcat312]

1 hour ago, LaserFreak16 said:

Same here. I never got an update on my portal, and I still have yet to hear an outright rejection. I applied Physics AFOSR, though my subconcentration is optical physics.

 

Based on previous commenters, we know some BAAs or disciplines won't distribute any awards based on available projects and funding.

This is my thought exactly. I think I might had just applied to a field that didn't had any project/funding, which is why the application got ghosted entirely as the subject matter experts probably didn't even review it. 

[owobowoz]

Sigh, just got HM for NSF too. Anyone know how often people get off the waitlist for NDSEG? ? 

[caconym]

This is wack, I got NDSEG but didn't even get HM for GRFP

But the deadline to accept the NDSEG offer is April 12th so probably sometime after that?

[mikefromnj]

On 4/2/2022 at 1:01 PM, Haplogene40 said:

I also haven't heard anything back... and never received the DoD panel update. Applied ARO Life Sciences/Genetics. I guess there's always next year ? 

I also applied to life sciences/genetics. The person who runs the program is an insect geneticist and I was really hoping my application was going to make it to her for review. oh well. 

[mikefromnj]

18 hours ago, ghostcat312 said:

This is my thought exactly. I think I might had just applied to a field that didn't had any project/funding, which is why the application got ghosted entirely as the subject matter experts probably didn't even review it. 

I don't think whether or not your BAA has any "projects" matter. I had accidentally reached out to the person in charge of the program I applied to and they liked my weird wacky niche proposal and indicated it could win funding, unfortunately the subject matter panel didn't feel the same way. 

[Another_Tired_Grad_Student]

Just received 3 rejection emails from NDSEG. They are really trying to rub salt in the wound. 

[mikefromnj]

Well at least I can stop wondering now. I just wish they were normal and gave feedback.