NDSEG 2021-2022

[Another_Tired_Grad_Student]

  On 4/1/2022 at 6:07 PM, OpticsDude97 said:

Exactly, they took 3 days to notify ~ 5% of the total number of applications 

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Well, catch me constantly checking my email for the next 3 weeks for the 0.0000000001% chance I get it awarded at this point ?

[mech123]

  On 4/1/2022 at 6:10 PM, Another_Tired_Grad_Student said:

Well, catch me constantly checking my email for the next 3 weeks for the 0.0000000001% chance I get it awarded at this point ?

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We should do a study on how much these fellowships actually reduce research output for this exact reason

A cursory calculation assuming everyone spends 40 hrs of labor on these applications suggests a 87.5% effectiveness of this fellowship ($3 million to ~$24 million awarded over 3 years)

Edited April 1, 2022 by mech123

[Acolyte_of_Magnetism]

  On 4/1/2022 at 6:44 PM, mech123 said:

We should do a study on how much these fellowships actually reduce research output for this exact reason

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Certainly distracted me when I was preparing for my qual

[JustScienceThings]

  On 4/1/2022 at 6:10 PM, Another_Tired_Grad_Student said:

Well, catch me constantly checking my email for the next 3 weeks for the 0.0000000001% chance I get it awarded at this point ?

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By this admittedly arbitrary metric, your chance of winning the Mega Millions lottery jackpot is approximately four orders of magnitude more likely than winning NDSEG... tangentially related fun fact: the statistical probability of getting hit by lightning is about 3 orders of magnitude more likely than winning the lottery.

[Another_Tired_Grad_Student]

  On 4/1/2022 at 7:04 PM, JustScienceThings said:

By this admittedly arbitrary metric, your chance of winning the Mega Millions lottery jackpot is approximately four orders of magnitude more likely than winning NDSEG... tangentially related fun fact: the statistical probability of getting hit by lightning is about 3 orders of magnitude more likely than winning the lottery.

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I think next year someone needs to submit this analysis and calculate the research time waste on this to NDSEG as their research proposal.

[mech123]

The fellowship coordinator specified that all awardees and honorable mentions have been notified. Hopefully we have better luck in the future!

Edited April 1, 2022 by mech123

[JustScienceThings]

  On 4/1/2022 at 8:02 PM, mech123 said:

The fellowship coordinator specified that all awardees and honorable mentions have been notified. Hopefully we have better luck in the future!

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Can confirm. She said that if you have not already been notified, then you were rejected. Rejection notifications should be coming out in mass within the hour.

[mech123]

Kind of sad that DAAD through Germany can fund almost as many americans as the DOD can for a similar fellowship

[confessionsofaphysicsgeek]

  On 4/1/2022 at 8:30 PM, JustScienceThings said:

Can confirm. She said that if you have not already been notified, then you were rejected. Rejection notifications should be coming out in mass within the hour.

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Anyone receive the rejection note yet?

[Acolyte_of_Magnetism]

I received the rejection notice at about 4:30 CST. Didn't notice it until half an hour ago cause outlook sent it to a weird folder. Status on application portal is unchanged though.

[confessionsofaphysicsgeek]

  On 4/2/2022 at 2:02 AM, Acolyte_of_Magnetism said:

I received the rejection notice at about 4:30 CST. Didn't notice it until half an hour ago cause outlook sent it to a weird folder. Status on application portal is unchanged though.

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Damn I must be really being ignored because I haven't even gotten the rejection. Lmao

[AmogusSyndrome]

You are not alone lol. I'm still waiting for the rejection letter to end this misery. Btw has anyone in physics got the acceptance email? 

[JustScienceThings]

  On 4/2/2022 at 1:51 AM, confessionsofaphysicsgeek said:

Anyone receive the rejection note yet?

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Yes. According to it, they received “over 3142 applications” this year. As I said earlier, if you haven’t heard back in a positive manner by now, then you were rejected. Sorry mate. 

[confessionsofaphysicsgeek]

  On 4/2/2022 at 3:16 AM, AmogusSyndrome said:

You are not alone lol. I'm still waiting for the rejection letter to end this misery. Btw has anyone in physics got the acceptance email? 

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I'm wondering the same.... Did they just not take any physics people?

[chronomagus]

  On 4/2/2022 at 3:21 AM, confessionsofaphysicsgeek said:

I'm wondering the same.... Did they just not take any physics people?

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To add another anecdotal data point, I'm in physics and I didn't hear anything back. No notification about anything

[Haplogene40]

I also haven't heard anything back... and never received the DoD panel update. Applied ARO Life Sciences/Genetics. I guess there's always next year ? 

[pkgts]

Not getting any sort of response from ndseg has me on maximum copium now

 

do they select a fellow for each subsection in the BAA? I submitted for physical properties of materials in ARO got no updates whatsoever

[LaserFreak16]

  On 4/2/2022 at 6:58 AM, chronomagus said:

To add another anecdotal data point, I'm in physics and I didn't hear anything back. No notification about anything

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Same here. I never got an update on my portal, and I still have yet to hear an outright rejection. I applied Physics AFOSR, though my subconcentration is optical physics.

 

  On 4/2/2022 at 6:41 PM, pkgts said:

Not getting any sort of response from ndseg has me on maximum copium now

 

do they select a fellow for each subsection in the BAA? I submitted for physical properties of materials in ARO got no updates whatsoever

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Based on previous commenters, we know some BAAs or disciplines won't distribute any awards based on available projects and funding.

[ghostcat312]

  On 4/3/2022 at 7:59 PM, LaserFreak16 said:

Same here. I never got an update on my portal, and I still have yet to hear an outright rejection. I applied Physics AFOSR, though my subconcentration is optical physics.

 

Based on previous commenters, we know some BAAs or disciplines won't distribute any awards based on available projects and funding.

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This is my thought exactly. I think I might had just applied to a field that didn't had any project/funding, which is why the application got ghosted entirely as the subject matter experts probably didn't even review it. 

[owobowoz]

Sigh, just got HM for NSF too. Anyone know how often people get off the waitlist for NDSEG? ? 

[caconym]

This is wack, I got NDSEG but didn't even get HM for GRFP

But the deadline to accept the NDSEG offer is April 12th so probably sometime after that?

[mikefromnj]

  On 4/2/2022 at 5:01 PM, Haplogene40 said:

I also haven't heard anything back... and never received the DoD panel update. Applied ARO Life Sciences/Genetics. I guess there's always next year ? 

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I also applied to life sciences/genetics. The person who runs the program is an insect geneticist and I was really hoping my application was going to make it to her for review. oh well. 

[mikefromnj]

  On 4/3/2022 at 9:14 PM, ghostcat312 said:

This is my thought exactly. I think I might had just applied to a field that didn't had any project/funding, which is why the application got ghosted entirely as the subject matter experts probably didn't even review it. 

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I don't think whether or not your BAA has any "projects" matter. I had accidentally reached out to the person in charge of the program I applied to and they liked my weird wacky niche proposal and indicated it could win funding, unfortunately the subject matter panel didn't feel the same way. 

[Another_Tired_Grad_Student]

Just received 3 rejection emails from NDSEG. They are really trying to rub salt in the wound. 

[mikefromnj]

Well at least I can stop wondering now. I just wish they were normal and gave feedback.