humean_skeptic Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I felt absolutely no different about any rejection letter. I only read the first sentence or so to confirm it was a rejection, then moved on. I don't understand the obsession with getting a "nice" rejection letter. Even the letters people say are "nice" are the same ones sent every year. None of them actually were to me personally, none of them told me I was special and different from all the other people. It's just a letter that rejected me, I cross that school off my list and that's that. I certainly understand the power of personalized waitlists/acceptances, but I don't think I will ever understand why people care so much about what is in the rejection letter. Actually, I can certainly see why people would want a rejection letter that's not worded in a completely perfunctory and/or cold sort of way. Applications are very expensive and a ton of work. Moreover, the application process is so competitive now that even very strong applicants can expect rejections to be the norm from most top schools. Here's something I really *don't* understand, though: Why on earth do you keep trying to belittle and insult stressed-out posters on TGC? L13, perpetuavix, Structural_Realist and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVineyard Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Actually, I can certainly see why people would want a rejection letter that's not worded in a completely perfunctory and/or cold sort of way. Applications are very expensive and a ton of work. Moreover, the application process is so competitive now that even very strong applicants can expect rejections to be the norm from most top schools. Here's something I really *don't* understand, though: Why on earth do you keep trying to belittle and insult stressed-out posters on TGC? I'm not belittling anyone. I just don't understand the desire for a nice rejection. I paid my money to have my application considered...I wasn't paying for a nice, sweet sounding rejection that represents the exact same content as every other rejection: You aren't in. If I only got emails that said "check application" and the link sent me to the word "Rejection" it would mean the same to me as any other rejection. I don't think more or less highly of a school because of how sweet they are about rejecting me. Rather, I would think more or less of a school depending on how quick they are about rejecting me after they have sent out their waitlists/acceptances. I would be much more grateful to the school that rejected me the day after they send acceptances with "Check Website" than the school that sends me a nicely worded snail mail 2 days later. Don't waste your time/money rejecting, spend the time/effort/money on the students you do take. Cottagecheeseman, greencoloredpencil, humean_skeptic and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humean_skeptic Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 You're missing the point. Point is: Why do you care enough *about whether all people care*, so that you have to criticize what you take to be their "obsession" with receiving "nice" rejection messages? formand, Hypatience, Cottagecheeseman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVineyard Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) You're missing the point. Point is: Why do you care enough *about whether all people care*, so that you have to criticize what you take to be their "obsession" with receiving "nice" rejection messages? Why do you care enough about why I care enough about what other people care about? Edited March 8, 2014 by TheVineyard Monadology, humean_skeptic, Cottagecheeseman and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humean_skeptic Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Why do you care enough about why I care enough about what other people care about? There's no regress here, I'm afraid My reason is simple: You're criticizing everyone who prefers a considerate, warm rejection letter to a cold, perfunctory one. So I'm responding to your extremely broad criticism, since I'm in that 'everyone'-group. Edit: As mentioned before, you accused everyone who prefers such rejection messages as having an "obsession". Edited March 8, 2014 by humean_skeptic Monadology, Cottagecheeseman, humean_skeptic and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVineyard Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 There's no regress here, I'm afraid My reason is simple: You're criticizing everyone who prefers a considerate, warm rejection letter to a cold, perfunctory one. So I'm responding to your extremely broad criticism, since I'm in that 'everyone'-group. Edit: As mentioned before, you accused everyone who prefers such rejection messages as having an "obsession". I am not criticizing those who prefer a warm rejection letter. I just don't think it is as valuable as most make it out to be. I guess that its better to get a nice one than a mean one, but really it is sent to everyone and is only faking personality and concern. There isn't anything behind them. Someone is assigned to write a letter that sounds nice that will be sent out to everyone. The content is always the same: You weren't good enough/didn't fit with us, goodbye. Would you like it better if I didn't call it an "obsession" but rather a widely held over-emphasis? Monadology, humean_skeptic, Cottagecheeseman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesage13 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I felt absolutely no different about any rejection letter. I only read the first sentence or so to confirm it was a rejection, then moved on. I don't understand the obsession with getting a "nice" rejection letter. Even the letters people say are "nice" are the same ones sent every year. None of them actually were to me personally, none of them told me I was special and different from all the other people. It's just a letter that rejected me, I cross that school off my list and that's that. I certainly understand the power of personalized waitlists/acceptances, but I don't think I will ever understand why people care so much about what is in the rejection letter. Why do you have to poo poo everything? And while it is sometimes hard to read the tone of comments on the internet, I was clearly not being super serious. I just thought it'd be a fun way to lighten the mood--though, admittedly, there wasn't much uptake. You really need to dial back the pedantic nitpicking. Being right for the sake of being right is not smart, just tiresome and childish. humean_skeptic, TheVineyard, Cottagecheeseman and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltgeist Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I got the "refusal" letter from McGill. it also claimed to list reasons for the "refusal" in the remainder of the letter, which it then did not do. very strange but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottagecheeseman Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I got the "refusal" letter from McGill. it also claimed to list reasons for the "refusal" in the remainder of the letter, which it then did not do. very strange but whatever. What does this even mean? Sorry I'm legit confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltgeist Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 What does this even mean? Sorry I'm legit confused. that's their weird quebecian way of saying i'm rejected. it is very strange indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MongooseMayhem Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Any word on Rutgers rejections or are they pulling a UCSD? greencoloredpencil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greencoloredpencil Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Any word on Rutgers rejections or are they pulling a UCSD? Eloquently stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philosophe Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I also applied to Iowa. I am wondering whether Iowa is your top choice of the schools to which you've been accepted? I believe I will be declining, I hope this helps you! Dabaliga and Wait For It... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabaliga Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I believe I will be declining, I hope this helps you! I believe it will! Thanks for responding. Congratulations on your other offers! Best of luck as you wait to hear back from the other schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needlessclock Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I believe it will! Thanks for responding. Congratulations on your other offers! Best of luck as you wait to hear back from the other schools. Dabaliga, Are you on the wait list of U of Iowa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheminism Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Same. Just thought I'd let you know that you're in company. Also same. I applied to the MA at Western Ontario and it still says "Released to Program". My friend was admitted back in February off the website and received a letter in the mail with his offer details. I am suspicious that they are sending out snail mail rejections, as well. EDIT: Thought I should probably mention what university I'm referring to. Edited March 10, 2014 by Pheminism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edit_Undo Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Just received a rejection from CUNY via E-mail. I also received an email from Tufts to check their website, nothing there yet but presumably a rejection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kant_get_in Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Also same. I applied to the MA at Western Ontario and it still says "Released to Program". My friend was admitted back in February off the website and received a letter in the mail with his offer details. I am suspicious that they are sending out snail mail rejections, as well. EDIT: Thought I should probably mention what university I'm referring to. Annnnnd I've been rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianfaircloud Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 NYU rejections: Did you receive an email to check a website? Email from Dean? Tell me about your rejection. Some of us (or at least I) haven't receive rejections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philstudent1991 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Duke released rejections, though I think the rejects already knew for all practical purposes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRising Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 NYU rejections: Did you receive an email to check a website? Email from Dean? Tell me about your rejection. Some of us (or at least I) haven't receive rejections. Email from Roberta Popik (Associate Dean) saying that my application was rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianfaircloud Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 Email from Roberta Popik (Associate Dean) saying that my application was rejected. Thanks! I received mine just minutes ago! Whew! I was worried for a minute... stressedout and MattDest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zblaesi Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I haven't received a rejection from Columbia yet, though there are reports of rejections on gradcafe. How should I interpret this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
objectivityofcontradiction Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) I haven't received a rejection from Columbia yet, though there are reports of rejections on gradcafe. How should I interpret this? Interpret it like the rest of us in your position have: We've been rejected. Edited March 11, 2014 by objectivityofcontradiction philosophe and greencoloredpencil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deverettf Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I haven't received a rejection from Columbia yet, though there are reports of rejections on gradcafe. How should I interpret this? So far, three Columbia rejections have been reported on the philosophy gradcafe webpage. Two of them are for the Philosophy PhD program, and both look suspicious: for one, the comment reads "(0a, 0a, 1r: 1) I just don't get it, I thought I played this perfectly"; for the other, the comment reads (as though quoting from a rejection email) "We decided that you didn't suck up enough during your undergraduate years and I concur with this decision." The remaining rejection is for a Philosophy of Religion program. This report seems genuine, but I think the program is affiliated with the department of religion, not philosophy (http://religion.columbia.edu/graduate/handbook/fields-study/philosophy-religion). That said, both waitlists and acceptances have been reported for Columbia, so you're probably either rejected or on some kind of internal waitlist. ianfaircloud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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