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During my MA, I couldn't make time to do marching band, but I did join the alumni band at Homecoming and played DnD with a few groups pretty regularly. I also have my own Twitch channel and was better about streaming when I was in my MA than now, haha. Ultimately, you need to find the balance of being committed to your studies without letting it take over your life.

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I was very involved in extracurricular as an undergraduate student. I started volunteering at the age of 12. So it's very natural for me to keep being involved. I am at the end of my first semester in my master's program, I am a full-time student and I was able to volunteer quite a lot this term along with my courses. I think it depends a lot on your time management skills and your ability to cope with pressure and multiple commitments at once. I won't say it was easy, but I managed to make it through this semester with a perfect average so far (I have 3 assignments left to hand in). I think it's also important to prioritize and say no to things. I've said no to a lot of other commitments I could have. I tried to pick the commitments that would be best for my professional development and a potential Ph.D. application. Two birds one stone, kind of. 

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Yes! Right now, I'm in dance, a martial art, and a figure skating group and participate very often (every practice for all of them). This is in addition to independently studying two foreign languages and learning guitar as well as regularly working out. My academics haven't suffered as a result either - in fact I just published a paper in a journal! :D

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i ride my bike competitively. If I join the school's team this year, there's a good chance I'll get to ride at nationals with 2, maybe 3 other strong riders from my school. However, it's a balancing game, and you have to make sacrifices. I can't ride my bike as much as I'd like, because I have to commit most of my time to grad school. I also have other interests I want to pursue, like recently I've been going out ~2x/week, and been taking weekly salsa. the late nights don't blend well with the early mornings.. suffice to say, I could progress a lot faster as a cyclist if I didn't have other things going on, but anyone can say that about anything.. My boss doesn't like it when he seems me in a cycling kit. He basically made me agree that I would only ride before or after I put in my time in the lab, not in between, because that can rub off on others, and disrupt the group or something. But it's entirely up to you how much effort you want to put in to a given hobby. 

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In grad school, I trained a martial art (umm... 5-6 times a week for 1.5-2 hours a day) and had a weekly trivia game with friends. We also did regular game nights, happy hours, and several other things. So yes, it's definitely possible to have extracurricular commitments. Something like marching band which might involve travel all weekend (Friday-Sunday) might be more difficult to juggle with classes, colloquium, and the other requirements of grad school.

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On 12/6/2017 at 3:11 PM, spectastic said:

i ride my bike competitively. If I join the school's team this year, there's a good chance I'll get to ride at nationals with 2, maybe 3 other strong riders from my school. 

Same - it usually takes about 10-15 hours of my week (plus showering and data crunching and eating ALL THE FOOD). I had to give it up cold turkey to do prelims, though. I've gained 15 pounds in 3 months, and can't wait for the holiday break. 

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Here I have people who want academic careers in mind.

To quote a senior person I know: "When I hit third year I realized that I couldn't have any hobbies if I wanted to be successful."  Some hyperbole, but it's true that hobbies don't help your CV.  That said, no hobbies isn't healthy. (This guy also said, "If you think you have good work-life balance, it means you're not working enough," which is a little bit delusional.)  So have as many extracurriculars as you need to stay sane but always remember that research comes first. The students I knew who had the most hobbies were also the ones who didn't get tenure track jobs.

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On 12/15/2017 at 3:26 PM, lewin said:

Here I have people who want academic careers in mind.

To quote a senior person I know: "When I hit third year I realized that I couldn't have any hobbies if I wanted to be successful."  Some hyperbole, but it's true that hobbies don't help your CV.  That said, no hobbies isn't healthy. (This guy also said, "If you think you have good work-life balance, it means you're not working enough," which is a little bit delusional.)  So have as many extracurriculars as you need to stay sane but always remember that research comes first. The students I knew who had the most hobbies were also the ones who didn't get tenure track jobs.

Oh man! this is the hard truth about academia! I barely made it through my MA (well I made it out alive), but always the balancing is the hard part!

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On 12/14/2017 at 5:46 PM, telkanuru said:

Same - it usually takes about 10-15 hours of my week (plus showering and data crunching and eating ALL THE FOOD). I had to give it up cold turkey to do prelims, though. I've gained 15 pounds in 3 months, and can't wait for the holiday break. 

oh cool! which cat are you? school?

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21 hours ago, telkanuru said:

Brown, this year I'll be riding in As (USAC 3).

nice, maybe i'll see you out there! nationals is in colorado, which I've always wanted to find an excuse to visit. and it'll be interesting to see how us sea level folks handle the 5k' elevation. the atmosphere is supposed to be 15% less. 

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How many extracurricular hours is too many, from people's experiences? I have a tendency to way overcommit and pay the consequences, so I'd be interested in what other people thought. I'm not trying to repeat my undergrad as a PhD student.

I'm thinking about doing a sport because of the benefits to my health (honestly, this is probably non-negotiable). I also volunteer but this is super flexible, and I'm considering doing some other stuff because I know it's good for my mental health... but I also know I'll end up stressed, anxious and unproductive if I take on too much.

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11 hours ago, lemma said:

How many extracurricular hours is too many, from people's experiences?

Estimate how much you think you can do, and then do half that.

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In undergrad I was a DJ at the college radio station and I had a weekly talk show about news in science and technology. I am really, really hoping this is something I can continue to do in grad school, though not every school has an active radio station. I was also super involved in theater and am hoping to be able to be at least minimally involved in something theater related, depending on how much time I have (even if it's just attending shows.) I think that it's important to have some activities that are a break from lab/research/classes/studying that still get you out and about to meet new people that might not be in your program. 

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