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Observations on weekends/after hours?
Crimson Wife replied to wodin's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
Some clinics do offer evening and/or weekend hours. My daughter had a 5:30-6:15 p.m. time slot for a while. You'll just need to call around since that is really going to vary. Her current SLP has the last slot of the day be 3-4 p.m. -
Master's in Deaf Education in one of the programs with a Listening and Spoken Language rather than an ASL emphasis and then certification as an Auditory-Verbal Educator. Being an AvEd. is pretty similar to an AVT except the pay isn't as good and it's classroom teaching rather than 1:1 or small-group.
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Articulation and phonological disorders class
Crimson Wife replied to Jesscee143's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
Utah State's COMD 3120 and Prof. Bingham is awesome. One of the most practical classes in the USU program. -
Advanced Certificates
Crimson Wife replied to SpeechLaedy's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
AVT's are either SLP's or Audiologists who have specialized training & a certain number of supervised hours doing AVT. Teachers of the Deaf & Hard-of-Hearing can earn the AVEd. designation, which is similar but geared towards working in a classroom setting rather than 1:1 or small-group like a SLP would. You can find out more details on the certification process on the AG Bell website.- 5 replies
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Advanced Certificates
Crimson Wife replied to SpeechLaedy's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
I'm doing a certificate in Deafblindness Intervention as part of my 2nd bachelor's. I chose it because I have an interest in auditory-verbal therapy for the deaf & hard-of-hearing. When I started networking with AVT's currently working in the field, most told me that they had at least one student with deafblindness on their caseload at any given time. I didn't know anything about deafblindness aside from having read a biography of Helen Keller and her teacher Annie Sullivan when I was a kid. Obviously things have changed for the better since the 19th century! A lot of what I've learned/am learning in the courses required for the certificate applies to deaf & hard-of-hearing students with typical vision as well. I think I will be a better AVT for having done the certificate regardless of whether it winds up helping me get into grad school and/or land a job. I would do a certificate for your own professional development if there is one that interests you, but I would not go into it assuming it will help you make more money. If it does, fantastic. Just don't count on that happening.- 5 replies
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I misunderstood your question and thought that you'd already finished the USU program (in which case you would only need neuro).
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Realistic SLP Tuition + Salary Questions
Crimson Wife replied to apslp's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics Occupational Outlook Handbook, the 10th percentile (as in 9 out of 10 SLP's make more) is $46k. So I don't think you have to seriously worry about only making $30k/year unless for you choose to work only PT. My mom has a friend who makes $150k/year in her private practice. Now granted my mom's friend is in her 60's and has a degree from Stanford's long-closed SLP program. But it is possible to eventually make six figures as a SLP. -
COMD 4450 at USU is the first one. Neuro is unfortunately not offered at USU. I was a psych major in my 1st degree so I already took it as part of that. But Wisconsin-Eau Claire and Eastern NM both offer neuro.
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Realistic SLP Tuition + Salary Questions
Crimson Wife replied to apslp's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
If you're interested in working in the schools, ASHA just published an article that might interest you: http://www.asha.org/SLP/schools/State-Caseload-and-Salary-Data-Map/ 6 months ago, I would've said that if you work in a non-profit setting (school, hospital, EI, VA, etc.) you can have your loan balance forgiven after 10 years, but with all the political changes, I wouldn't count on the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program to still exist when we graduate. -
I applied to AG Bell last year to have the "clock" start on my candidacy last year based on my previous bachelor's in a related field (psychology) plus the number of CSD credits I had at the time. The request got turned down I should re-apply since I am graduating with my bachelor's this semester and it would be good to count the UNC-CH training program towards my required hours (it's already pre-approved by AGB). I can't get my AVT certification until I receive my master's but it's a 3-5 year process to earn the certification and the clock can start upon receipt of the CSD bachelor's or if AGB grants me an exception, whichever comes first. Request for Preliminary Review of Academic Background If you do not have an academic degree (either bachelor’s or master’s level) in audiology, speech-language pathology or education of children who are deaf or hard of hearing, you may request a review of your academic background. To request a preliminary review of your academic background, submit the AG Bell Academy Service Request Form on p. 53 of this handbook and send it with a copy of your degree, transcripts and course descriptions from your coursework. Upon receipt of your transcripts and course descriptions, the Academy’s Certification Committee will determine whether your academic background meets the eligibility requirements for LSLS certificatio, or whether further evaluation from a third party agency is warranted to make a determination. The charge for a preliminary review of your academic background is $40.
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The program I'm targeting has a winter '18 start and I could definitely use the break between finishing my 2nd bachelor's this spring and starting grad school. It'll have taken me 6 semesters to finish my degree plus the certificate in Deafblindness Intervention. My house needs a thorough decluttering and deep cleaning that I simply haven't had the time or energy to do since I went back to school.
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I have a professional "crush" on Todd Houston's work and have heard excellent things about Akron's program. Not logistically feasible for me, but I wish you the very best
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HOPE: That the gamble to put all my eggs in one basket pays off and I'm not stuck next fall/winter applying to a bunch of other schools. DREAM: I'm doing a hybrid online/in-person auditory-verbal therapy training program at UNC-Chapel Hill this semester and it's awesome. I wish that it were logistically feasible to do their grad program. Too expensive for OOS, too far from where we live & my hubby works, and with my special needs child's 5 day per week therapy schedule plus my other 2 kids, I'm not confident that I could handle going FT to an in-person master's. GUESS: I have a lot of points in my favor but one very big negative of my age. If I were a decade younger, I think I'd have a halfway decent shot of getting into even a super-competitive program like Vanderbilt or UNC-CH. Not sure how schools will look at a 40 y.o. whose last paid job was in 2005.
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'Older'/Non-traditional students
Crimson Wife replied to ashny's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
Algebra 1 is 8th or 9th grade in the U.S. depending on the school. I think most countries outside the U.S. start covering the material in 6th or 7th grade (age 11 or 12) but as they integrate it with geometry and other topics, it's split up over multiple years. I homeschool my kids using Singapore Math and algebra 1 is split up over Singapore 6, 7, and 8. My oldest has gotten past the point where I could teach her math and she's now dual-enrolled at the local community college. Algebra 1 is basic linear equations, inequalities, graphing equations, solving multiple equations by adding/subtracting them, factoring polynomials, the quadratic equation, etc. I'm shaky on the harder topics and relied heavily on the teacher's manual in Singapore 8. If I wanted to get my GRE quant score up, I'd have to really study those harder algebra 1 topics and algebra 2. My backup plan is doing a master's in Deaf Education at one of the programs that has a Listening & Spoken Language emphasis rather than an ASL emphasis. Way less competitive admissions but the flip side is that ToDHH's earn a lower salary than SLP's. For example, in my daughter's district, ToDHH's with a Master's start out at $57.5k while SLP's start out at $75.3k. Still more than a SLPA (around $20-$25/hr in my area) and with guaranteed time-in-service salary increases. -
'Older'/Non-traditional students
Crimson Wife replied to ashny's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
Originally took the GRE my senior year of my 1st undergrad degree at age 21. Got a 720 (out of 800), which was 83rd percentile. Wish that score wasn't long expired! Took it again last year at age 39 after only prepping the verbal and no special prep for the math, though I have homeschooled my kids 1st grade through algebra 1. Scored a 154, which was 56th percentile. I decided that focusing on my CSD coursework was a better use of my time and energy at this point. If I don't get accepted this year, I will spend next fall prepping and see if I can get my math and AW scores up. I'm graduating with my 2nd bachelor's at the end of this semester so I won't have any CSD courses to worry about unless I want to take some electives. -
bumping but do your research to make sure all these schools still offer spring admission. The new NYU online program offers spring admission.
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NOVA Southeastern Online Program?
Crimson Wife replied to SLP2Bhopefully's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
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I have heard that NOVA online accepts pretty much everyone if they're willing to wait long enough for a seat. No GRE required. However, their program is $$$$ ($1200/credit hour plus assorted fees). So you'd have to think long and hard about how much debt you're willing to take on in pursuit of your career dreams. I'm too old and my kids are too close to college-age themselves to go into huge debt just to become a SLP vs. a SLP Asst. or Teacher of the Deaf. Yes, SLP's make a higher salary than SLPA's and ToD's, but not enough to pay off the kind of debt that NOVA would require.
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Check out Utah State online's 1st bachelor's program to see how many credits that would require. Remember that you'll have to complete the leveling courses as part of grad school at a higher tuition if you don't do your bachelor's in CSD. I like psychology (it was my 1st bachelor's) but if you're certain you want to do SLP rather than something psychology-related as a career, I don't see much point in finishing the psych major.
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Pre-requisites - time to complete
Crimson Wife replied to ashny's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
"Full Time" just refers to the number of classes taken, not whether someone is sitting in a classroom 4 days/week. Yes, there are 2nd bachelor's programs designed like that (Sacramento State has one, which I passed on due to logistics) but there are plenty of others where the lectures are pre-recorded and you watch them at your own convenience. I watch a lot of mine on my smartphone while sitting in waiting rooms during my daughter's various medical and therapy appointments. Utah State is the online progam I'm most familiar with but there are others such as Eastern NM, Wisconsin-Eau Claire, ID State, Cal State Northridge, etc. I think there is a list somewhere on this forum if you do a search. -
Pre-requisites - time to complete
Crimson Wife replied to ashny's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
Why would you have a hole in your resume? Utah State is fully online so you'd do your classes around your work schedule. Most people in the program are employed at least PT. I'm not but my special needs child has an intensive therapy schedule (5 days/week between speech, ABA, and social skills group) plus dealing with all the hassles of her IEP, fighting the various bureaucracies (private health insurance, Medicaid she has as secondary coverage, the Regional Center, etc.) and so on. A 3 year extended master's would guarantee that the leveling classes would "count" but frankly you'd need a super-strong rest of your application to overcome the low 1st bachelor's GPA. It's certainly possible but you need to be realistic about how competitive those programs are. And if you're not doing the leveling classes as part of an extended master's, you run into the same issue about them possibly being a waste regardless of whether you do a 2nd bachelor's or just take them as a non-degree student. -
Pre-requisites - time to complete
Crimson Wife replied to ashny's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
If you were to take them through Utah State, you'd take: 1st semester: 2500 (Language Development), 3100 (A&P of Speech), 3500 (Phonetics) 2nd semester: 3400 (A&P of Hearing), 4450 (Intro to Communicative Disorders) 3rd semester: 3700 (Audiology), 5330 (Aural Rehab) I would recommend taking 5900 (Observation) since many grad schools want the 25 required ASHA hours completed prior to matriculation. And really, if you're taking 8 of the courses for the 2nd bachelor's, you might as well go ahead and take the remaining 4 since you'd have to take them in grad school regardless. It's not like you get out of taking them completely if you don't do them at the undergrad level. -
All analogies questions are variations on a handful of different relationships. Back in the dark ages the SAT used to have an analogies section and there was a list of the analogies types in Kaplan and other test prep books. Even you didn't know one or more of the words, if you could figure out the type of relationship, you could often determine the correct answer. Here's a brief overview: http://www.sparknotes.com/testprep/books/gre/chapter10section3.rhtml
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Also, I have to laugh at you folks in your early 30's feeling "old". I earned my 1st degree in the 20th century and can remember Reagan as president. You're still babies
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Check the Western Regional Graduate Program list to see if NAU is on there. I can't remember off the top of my head but there are a bunch of SLP programs that give discounted tuition to CA residents. It's higher than in-state but lower than full OOS.