Crimson Wife

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  1. CSU Northridge Stats?

    CSUN online is one of the most competitive distance ed programs out there. There are so few distance ed programs and many of the ones that do exist require time on campus or don't accept CA residents. CSUN online also guarantees admission to 100% of their post-bacc students who finish the program with a 4.0 so there's just that many fewer slots for everyone else.
  2. Schools Attended on CSDCAS

    Check the National Student Clearinghouse to see if they have record of your attendance. If they do, then you risk having the grad schools "red flag" your application for not providing transcripts. Now if the school went out of business like Heald or ITT and you literally CANNOT get your transcript, I would add a line in your application somewhere noting that fact. But if you COULD get your transcript and simply don't want to share it, then yes, you're being dishonest and grad schools may well reject you over it.
  3. The hurdle you are going to have is convincing the AdComm that you actually want to go into SLP and that you know enough about the field to know that it is a good "fit" for you. You're going to be competing against people with similar GPA's and GRE scores but who also have relevant experience and/or extracurriculars. "Book learning" isn't the same thing as watching a real SLP working with a real client. ASHA requires 25 observation hours and one school I have applied to wanted me to send signed documentation that I had completed that. So I would shoot for that as your goal.
  4. You will still have to take the same courses whether you do them at the undergraduate level or the graduate level. It doesn't actually save time to do a 3 year "extended" master's as an out-of-field applicant vs. a post-bacc/2nd bachelor's plus a regular 2 year master's. Pro of applying to "extended" master's programs: you know for sure before you start taking the leveling courses that you have acceptance to a master's program. Con: way more expensive tuition (difference can be $25k depending on the school) What is your GPA from your 1st bachelor's? What are your GRE scores? Do you have any relevant work/volunteer/shadowing experience?
  5. If you can get your quant to >50th percentile and your total to 300+, I think you'd have a decent shot at many programs. A lot of schools even if they look at cumulative GPA's still weight last 60 credits and major GPA's more heavily than the cumulative. If those are higher for you (which presumably they are), I would add a line in your statement about how you learned from your DE experience study skill strategies that will help you in grad school.
  6. The National Student Clearinghouse probably has a record of your attendance and if you neglect to send a transcript from a school you attended, it's going to raise a "red flag" to the AdComm. Given that the grades were so low you that you got asked to leave, that would make you look dishonest and would doom your hope of them giving you a 2nd chance. Your only hope is to 'fess up and provide some sort of convincing evidence that you can now handle the rigors of grad school. If I were in your shoes, I would consider doing a certificate in a related area (there are lots of different options) and hold off on reapplying until I had that certificate in hand with good grades. What is your area of interest within SLP?
  7. What can you do with a Masters in General Psychology?

    There are many hybrid programs where you do the coursework online and then have supervised clinical practica. Aside from counseling and social work, there are also programs in Marriage & Family Therapy that would satisfy educational requirements for licensure.
  8. Maybe, maybe not. It really depends on what you hope to do career-wise. Many SLP's specialize in one particular area and wouldn't need to know that type of stuff beyond what meets minimum ASHA requirements for initial certification.
  9. Should I get a B.A.? before grad school

    By the time you've taken all the various courses that grad schools want, you've pretty much finished the 2nd bachelor's (and even finishing the 2nd bachelor's you may be missing pre-reqs for certain schools like several of the Cal States). And with the 2nd bachelor's you may be able to work as a SLPA/SLT or if your state allows it, as a SLP on waiver to help pay for grad school. There are certain programs only available to working SLPA's (like Northern AZ's summers-only program). Also, if you need financial aid, that is only available to those in a degree program and not non-degree students. I didn't take out loans to pay for my 2nd bachelor's but many of my classmates did.
  10. Should I get a B.A.? before grad school

    I totally disagree with the bolded. There is a very big reason to get a 2nd BA: cost savings. You will have to take the leveling classes regardless of whether you do them at the undergraduate level or the graduate level. And the tuition is quite a bit higher if you take them at the graduate level. For some schools, you could be looking at a $25+k difference doing the 3 year "extended" master's vs. the 2nd BA + the standard 2 year master's. Pretty much the only reason I can see for doing an extended master's is that you know for sure that you have a slot in grad school. Doing the 2nd bachelor's there is a risk that you will finish the leveling courses and then not get accepted to a master's. Whether that risk is worth taking in order to save $$$$ depends on how confident you feel about your chances. I took the GRE early on in the 2nd bachelor's and knew I had competitive scores plus a decent GPA in my 1st degree. So for me, it was a no-brainer to take leveling the courses at the cheaper UG tuition rather than paying a ton more to do a 3 year "extended" master's.
  11. My professional interest (language-based learning disabilities) lies in an area that overlaps School/Educational Psychology and Speech & Language Pathology. I am considering shooting for the moon and applying for the local PhD. in School Psychology program but I am unsure whether I'd need to retake the GRE to up my quant score. When I took it in 2015, I only prepped the verbal because SLP mainly looks at the verbal score and only cares that the quant is >50th percentile. I scored a 154 (55th percentile) just taking it cold. My old expired GRE score from when I was a senior in my 1st undergrad was 720 (80-something percentile) so I know that I can do significantly better if I relearn all the math I've forgotten. The question is whether it makes sense to invest the time & money in prepping for and retaking the GRE to up my quant score. I don't have a sense for how important the quant section is for School Psychology. Is it going to be a "deal breaker" if I apply with the high verbal and mediocre quant?
  12. So I participated in a grad school admissions seminar today where the professor (who has been on an adcomm) said that for psychology, the AWA score is the most important, followed by the quant, and then the total. When I took the GRE in 2015, I was aiming for Speech & Language Pathology, which focuses primarily on the verbal and only cares that the quant is >50th percentile and the AWA is 4+. So I prepped exclusively for the verbal and got a score I'm happy with (168). I know how to improve my quant (relearning all the math I've forgotten) and will be studying with Magoosh and the Manhattan Prep 5 lb. book of practice problems. I have no idea how to prep for the AWA section. I've always done poorly on standardized writing tasks where I have to talk out my @$$ in response to lame prompts in a very short period of time. I'm a good writer in real-life academic tasks like term papers where I have a decent prompt and plenty of time to think through what I'm writing. It's frustrating that my chances of grad school come down to basically the equivalent of being a loudmouth at a bar going off about some inane topic. I did buy the ETS "Score It Now" service for the essay. Is there anything else that actually works to raise a so-so AWA score?
  13. My Grad School Doesn't Offer Courses That

    I would finish your program and then look for CEU courses in your area of interest. Or you could do a full graduate certificate if you really wanted & thought it would help your career.
  14. What is a Competitive Quant GRE Score for School/Ed Psych?

    No, I mean I have no interest in the typical Clinical Psych work diagnosing mental health disorders like depression, anxiety, obsessive-compulsive disorder, personality disorders, etc. and providing ongoing psychotherapy for those. If I go into psychology rather than SLP, it would only be School Psychology to minimize the coursework and training in touchy-feely therapy/counseling that is just not a good "fit" for my skillset. I want to do psychoeducational and hopefully neuropsychological assessments. In my state, if I wasn't able to land a fellowship in neuropsychology and get certified in that specialty, I would become a Licensed Educational Psychologist after working a couple of years in a school setting.
  15. REALLY low quant score but a determined lil flower

    The Miller Analogies Test has no math on it and is accepted by a bunch of schools (not sure of any on your list). Might be worth taking.
  16. What Actually Works to Increase AWA Score?

    I've been reading it and the differences are unclear and totally subjective. The Official Guide to the GRE states (emphasis mine): A typical response in this category [6] -clearly identifies aspects of the argument relevant to the assigned task and examines them insightfully - develops ideas cogently , organizes them logically, and connects them with clear transitions. -provides compelling and thorough support for its main points. -conveys ideas fluently and precisely, using effective vocabulary and sentence variety. -demonstrates superior facility with the conventions of standard written English. A typical repsonse in this category [5] -clearly identifies aspects of the argument releant to the assigned task and examines them in a generally perceptive way. -develops ideas clearly, organizes them logically, and connects them with appropriate transitions. -offers generally thoughtful and thorough support for its main points. -conveys ideas clearly and well, using appropriate vocabulary and sentence variety. -demonstrates facility with the conventions of standard written English. A typical response in this category [4] -identifies and examines aspects of the argument relevant to the assigned task - develops and organizes ideas satisfactorily -supports its main points adequately -demonstrates sufficient control of language to convey ideas with acceptable clarity -generally demonstrates control of the conventions of standard written English. How do I as a test taker know what is "satisfactory"/"adequate"/"sufficient" vs. "perceptive"/"thoughtful"/"appropriate" vs. "insightful"/"cogent"/"compelling"/"superior"?
  17. Unconventional Routes To Psy Ph.D.

    I doubt a master's in anthropology would do anything for your chances. What about the Michigan/EdX micromasters in Social Work? More related to psych than anthro is and if you do decide to go the MSW route it could shave time off the degree. Inexpensive and can be done on your own schedule.
  18. Utah State Online Leveling Program

    Hardest classes for me were 5070 (Speech Science), 5200 (Language Assessment & Intervention), and the 2 A&P courses. Easiest were 3700 (Audiology), 5330 (Aural Rehabilitation), and 5100 (Language Science aka Grammar 101). A lot of people find 3500 (Phonetics) easy and 2500 (Language Development) hard but for me it was the other way around.
  19. Utah State Online Leveling Program

    If he's on Facebook, have him join the group "Utah State Online COMD". The Google Docs spreadsheet pinned to the top of the group will answer a lot of those questions.
  20. What is a Competitive Quant GRE Score for School/Ed Psych?

    I am too old to be going into academia. If I were to do a PhD., it would to become a child neuropsychologist (if I could land a fellowship in that subspeciality) or an educational psychologist. Not interested in clinical psychology/counseling. I want to do assessments for learning and developmental disabilities & in my state that is in the scope of practice for licensed psychologists rather than speech & language pathologists. There is a severe shortage of qualified evaluators for deaf & hard-of-hearing children with additional special needs. I had to fly cross-country with my "deaf plus" child in order to have her evaluated at Johns Hopkins' Kennedy Krieger Institute because there wasn't anybody qualified in my area (and there are ~3 million people living in my metro area). I took Testing & Measurement this summer, which was quant-heavy (basically a stats class with a psychometrics focus) and got an A. I also did well (B+ to A) in 3 terms of calculus during my 1st undergrad. So I *CAN* do quant work when it's needed. I just have forgotten all the algebra & geometry that the GRE tests but I haven't used in decades. I feel confident that with targeted test prep I could raise my score by several points, hopefully 160+.
  21. Advice on affordable grad programs-- Utah State?

    Be forewarned that the LEND program is on the chopping block with the new administration. I would not count on it to be around past the end of this fiscal year in September.
  22. Prereqs before applying

    Some schools accept "out of field" applicants without any pre-reqs. It's an expensive route to go since you'll be paying graduate level tuition for the "leveling" classes rather than UG tuition. The benefit is that you will have guaranteed acceptance to a master's program whereas not everyone who finishes a 2nd bachelor's or post-bacc leveling program will win acceptance to grad school. CSDCAS (like the Common App but for grad school in SLP) has a place for you to list in-progress and future planned courses.
  23. I participated in a seminar through the CSD department at my alma mater that offered continuing ed unit credits. I got grades for each day of the seminar and they are listed on my transcript for summer semester along with an elective that I took for academic credit. Do I enter them in CSDCAS or not? I did no work for the seminar aside from listening to the lectures (which were really interesting and worth the time & money spent on them). I'm leaning towards entering only the course I took for credit but don't want CSDCAS to flag my application as incorrect.
  24. I do have the seminar listed under the "professional development" section of my resume along with other workshops & conferences I have attended.
  25. Do you get your tests and quizzes back?

    At Utah State online it depended on the specific class whether the graded quizzes or tests were shown. Most (maybe all? not sure) of the professors who did not show the corrected answers would still discuss the specific areas missed via email or phone upon request. Not giving the correct answers but saying "you missed the questions about topics X, Y, and Z".