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Procopius

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    Early modern world
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    Comparative history

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  1. Procopius

    Fall 2019 Applicants

    So I had two similar experiences at two different schools. At one school, my advisor was good friends with my poi there. He wanted to read my masters thesis before I applied and expressed great interest in my project. I felt confident and applied there, but I never got in. The poi who I had exchanged a lot of pleasant emails with didn’t even send me an explanation email. I will say however that before I applied he had mentioned that his school lacked a second professor with my particular interests who could help guide my project (he’s a French historian and I needed a Chinese historian who wasn’t there), but he encouraged me to apply anyway. So I think I didn’t get in probably because of fit. At the other school, one of my mentors was really good friends with my poi there. In fact, at the first mention of my mentor my poi was instantly interested in me. Our interests were also extremely similar, so he thought I was a perfect fit for the school. Two months after I applied there, I got an interview request with him. We interviewed over Skype, and he was throughly impressed with our interview. At that point, I felt that this school was pretty much gonna be my top choice. Fast forward another month, and the school informed that I was waitlisted. I was pretty hurt and still am since it wasn’t that long ago. The poi personally emailed me and told me that I was their top candidate for my field and I still got beaten out. He said there was a possibility I could still get in and i tried to maintain my optimism. Ultimately I never made it out of the waitlist and they didn’t take one person in my sub field. I was really disappointed because the stars seemed to align for me so well and I still didn’t get in. I inquired to my poi why I wasnt admitted and he said it was just competition. I felt like politics or the numbers game may have factored in too, but I truly have no idea. @urbanhistorynerd my point is that even if a poi has great interest in you, you still need to deal with forces you can’t foresee. However, it’s still a terrific first step and it’s better to have someone fight for your application than to not have one. Do the very best you can on your applications and impress both that poi of yours and the committee. You have a tremendous shot here.
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    Is getting a PhD worth it?

    I find this to be the best positive aspect of a PhD in history, that you can still do a handful of other stuff even after attaining a phD. The doom and gloom talks only exist to keep students’ expectations in check. Personally, i think if you can get into a solid program (preferably among the usual suspects), and have no debt, the PhD is not so terrible of an idea. But you need a crazy amount of passion for it. I like that you have a backup plan. I’m still formulating mine.
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    Is getting a PhD worth it?

    I feel like although this doom and gloom talk is really disheartening and negative, it serves the purpose of warning people that there’s nothing rosy about becoming a history professor. A PhD requires the dedication of a monastic monk or a starving artist. As my professor says, you should only do a PhD in history if you can’t imagine yourself doing anything else. Start contemplating other career options before you embark on a PhD. Hopefully you’ll find something that matches your passion for history.
  4. Procopius

    Reconsidering Applying

    I’m in the exact opposite situation you’re in. Great funding, but no placements for my field and young advisor. Would money and time away from ta-ing actually overcome a program’s lack of placements?
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    Where historians work

    https://www.historians.org/wherehistorianswork This was on the gradschool reddit page. I’m not sure if this was already posted before, but I don’t recall this ever being put up. This details the career outcomes for history phds produced from 2004 to 2013. It’s interesting stuff because you can also search the outcomes by individual departments. I only have two comments about the data. One, it largely confirms the consensus that if you want to have a greater shot at a tenure track job, you should attend a top ranked school. The usual suspects (such as Harvard, Yale, or Princeton) have the highest percentage rates at 60%-70% of placing people in 4 year tenure track programs. This doesn’t mean your chance of getting a tt track job is the same percentage if you attend one of these school but just that your chances are higher as compared to another school. My second point is that you should peruse the data cautiously because it doesn’t the reflect the current job market (since it got worse) and that just because a school’s placement percentage for a four-year tt job is low doesn’t mean it’s a bad school. For example, smaller schools like Brandeis have lower placement percentages because their population is lower. I would love to hear your guys’ thoughts on this data if you have any!
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    History Graduate Program Funding Package Spreadsheet

    Ah i see now. After digging through the unc graduate funding website, they explicitly say that their city’s lower cost of living is a significant advantage for graduate students. They even compare their funding with other schools. I realize now that most grad programs will provide you with just enough or more than enough money to survive. Of course, some packages will be better than others, which seems inevitable in some cases. Like notre dame can afford to give their students six years of funding or Stanford will pay for four summers at $7000 a piece. I think, ultimately, it pays to go to a top school at a high COL location. But ymmv.
  7. Procopius

    Fall 2019 Applicants

    You should also consider ut Austin. They placed somebody into duke a couple years ago doing almost the same thing as you but from the Eastern European perspective.
  8. Procopius

    Ending with Terminal MA

    Also one thing I learned during the application process, which I didn’t know before, was that doing a postdoc at a prestigious or high ranked university can help mitigate the “less prestigious/weaker” undergrad/ma aspect. That’s something you can consider if you want to stay at your current school.
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    Ending with Terminal MA

    I’m in a relatively similar situation, but I expect I will stay in my program. I got into a great school, but it’s not well known for my speciality (early modern) with no placements at all. My would be advisor there suggested if I didn’t feel the program was right for me, I could leave in a year with their ma, even though I already have a terminal ma in history. It seems redundant for me to get two masters in history and although there’s no placement, the school’s in a great area and the advisor is an up and coming professor. In terms of languages, i guess it wouldn’t be a terrible idea if your advisors sign off on you leaving, but you’d have to consider if after you leave whether your chances of getting in a higher level program will be better. The competition will still be strong and you will still compete with other people who will have strong languages as well.
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    History Graduate Program Funding Package Spreadsheet

    Some packages seem disturbingly low (unc), others seem disturbingly high (notre dame, Stanford).
  11. Procopius

    How to get into UCLA's African history program

    Make sure the advisor you want to work for at UCLA is taking students for the year you’re applying to. I find that making sure there are advisors who would fight for your app at a particular school is paramount.
  12. Procopius

    Fall 2018 Applicants

    Hi everyone. Is anybody going to decline an offer to Emory? It's my top choice, but I'm currently waitlisted there. Really hoping for some movement in the coming week and a half.
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