Karajan Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I recall we figured out that Columbia, Yale and Penn interview, as well as programs associated with a university that has a conservatory (i.e. Indiana, Eastman, etc). Any ideas about which others interview?
Catalyst77 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Those are the only ones I've heard of that interview, too. I wish I knew when Yale made their first round of cuts/invites, too. Also, I'm applying to Berkeley, too! Too bad they don't interview, or we could all meet in person there!
snes Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 UCLA maybe interviews? I saw an interview notification in a past year on the results board.
comp12 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 Do departments fly out their applicants to these interviews, or are they required to do so on their own? Does anybody know if CUNY interviews for comp?
snes Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 according to the GradCafe forum homepage, happy birthday to Karajan! Are you really only 21? I'm not sure, but I don't think most humanities programs have enough money to fly their applicants IN THIS ECONOMY mostly because I've heard of a lot of people opting for the phone or skype interview.
JSK Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Some of the Ivies and UCs fly out the PhD applicants they admit, I believe. I think it's really crummy to expect people to fly out for an interview on their own dime when a skype interview should suffice. I could be biased though because I live nowhere near any interesting programs.
Karajan Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 according to the GradCafe forum homepage, happy birthday to Karajan! Are you really only 21? I'm not sure, but I don't think most humanities programs have enough money to fly their applicants IN THIS ECONOMY mostly because I've heard of a lot of people opting for the phone or skype interview. Thanks! And yes, I'm 21 I think many of the programs fly out students they've admitted, but don't expect people to pay to fly out for interviews; it would be rubbish if they did though!
comp12 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 I agree it would be lame indeed if we were required to fly out to interview. However, that's what performance applicants do for their auditions. And they're not expected to receive any travel aid, 99% of the time. But on the other hand, at least in their field, the audition is understood to be part of the process, and is clearly laid out as a requirement from the start. In musicology, I suppose it is more ambiguous.
Karajan Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I have a question for you guys. One of my professors told me that some schools will 'strategically reject' people they think are going to attend a different school, and those students sometimes get stuck because all the schools they applied to think this and then they end up not getting in anywhere. Have you heard this? Makes me a little bit freaked out.
snes Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I have a question for you guys. One of my professors told me that some schools will 'strategically reject' people they think are going to attend a different school, and those students sometimes get stuck because all the schools they applied to think this and then they end up not getting in anywhere. Have you heard this? Makes me a little bit freaked out. I've heard that more for undergrad admissions, and I pray it isn't true for graduate admissions. It's so much about fit and other weird non-quantifiable factors, that it's hard to say "Oh this applicant will deffo get accepted to Harvard, why should we even offer him anything?" AND there really are no safety schools anyway. (Also yes, professors say "deffo" now). I HAVE heard of programs informally contacting the very best applicants ASAP to nab them up quick, though. That's why waiting is the worst.
comp12 Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 Well, there's no doubt that faculty exchange notes on their applicants with their colleagues at other universities. The music academia world is so small, that everybody knows everybody, that the topic of applicants and recruiting will naturally come up during everyday conversation. Schools have limited funds available, so they have to be strategic when offering their places. I don't think I'm cynical enough to believe that schools will deliberately reject qualified candidates in order to make them more accurate in their yield predictions, but who knows? Now, judging from past survey responses here at Gradcafe - obviously it's true that the institutions have their own internal waitlist process, which means they accept the ones they really want early, and if they hear back a No, they move on to the next person, before ultimately sending out a mass official rejection towards their officially promised dates of mid/late March. That's why, I agree, that waiting blows! Good luck all! At this point, it's all out of our hands, so sit back and here's to hoping it turns out well for everyone!
Dharma Bum Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 A faculty member told me once to try and remember that, in a way, this application process is competitive for the graduate schools as well as us. I was told to try and think of this issue in the best way possible: if you look particularly attractive to a program, and they see where you are applying (one or two schools didn't even ask me), it could actually play to your advantage. These schools want to snatch up the best scholars they can!
Cece Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Hi all I'm new here, apply to composition(MM) 2012 fall. I failed last year, since my undergraduate major is sociology(seems so far away from music), it costs much more time for me to prepare my portfolio. Now I have submit all the applications, hope to get a good result this year. Good luck all!
Karajan Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Why are you still incomplete, Penn? Why? What did I do to wrong you?
snes Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Why are you still incomplete, Penn? Why? What did I do to wrong you? Same here. Also, if anyone applied to Columbia and is wondering why their App status PDF hasn't been populated with any information yet, it's because they got a ton of applications this year (is any year not a record-setting one?) and they're behind on doing that.
snes Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 A general admissions officer at Columbia told me that info, and it seemed she meant all of GSAS. I'm hoping (in vain, no doubt) that music is having a dry spell this year.
comp12 Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 Welcome to the grad cafe, Cece! What schools are you looking at?
snes Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Also @Karajan and whoever else was wondering, I just heard back from Penn that my application is complete. And, they changed it to "Completed" on ApplyYourself after I inquired. And yay that we have more music people finding this forum! Edited January 9, 2012 by snes
Cece Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 @fall2012musiccomp NYU, USC, Indiana, UC Riverside,......and so on......and many SUNYs I am not in USA and my bacholor degree is not about music, so I have little confident to myself.
Karajan Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Ok, good to know. I've inquired, too, and hopefully they'll change my status soon as well. Thanks for the update! Also @Karajan and whoever else was wondering, I just heard back from Penn that my application is complete. And, they changed it to "Completed" on ApplyYourself after I inquired. And yay that we have more music people finding this forum!
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