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  1. Getting slightly discouraged. Any advice would be great!

    I agree with all other posters on why you didn't get in. Being an international student is a major issue given the budget cuts. Canadian schools are not so good in terms of funding but U.S. private schools are extremely competitive. If you are really interested in research, you can try PhD in psychology programs with a mental health research focus. Those will be less competitive but won't enable you to get licensed. Another thing you may want to consider is whether you want to stay in the U.S./Canada or go back to your home country after graduation as tenure-track positions everywhere are difficult to get. You had some good experiences but since then you have pursued another career. It may take more elaboration in your personal statement to convince potential supervisors that you're committed as well besides worries about adaptation because there are many local applicants with similar profiles but more recent experience. So I'll suggest you look further into different programs and understand what they allow you to do in the future. In the U.S., all clinical, counseling, and school psychology programs enable to become a licensed psychologist. You may want to reconsider other options and apply to other programs in addition to clinical psychology programs. I was also an international applicant, working full-time as a teacher, studying part-time for my master's, RAing part-time, and preparing for my applications at the same time. I ended up in a PhD program in School Psychology that I really like. Making time is very important. You can make use of your commute time, get up earlier to study before you go to work etc. GRE is just an exam you need to spend more time on and there are a lot of materials available.
  2. Starting early is a great step! I agree with what almondicecream said and have heard similar things. I'd just like to add certain things you may want to pay attention to as an international student. 1. While people may say that some supervisors will consider your non-native background and cut you some slack when it comes to GRE verbal and AW, I believe you can still do better than that. Getting great TOEFL scores can somehow make up to that, but you should check the university websites carefully as many universities now have specific requirements for international students who want to be considered for teaching assistantship. It has something to do with the lack of oral English skills in some international students in the past. I have seen requirements ranging from 25 to 28 for your TOEFL speaking score. Just something to bear in mind. Also, as a developmental graduate student, you may need to collect data from children and interact with parents. It's thus also possible for them to require better English communication skills. 2. You can submit presentation proposals to international conferences. Just make sure you pay attention to their deadlines, requirements, and target audiences. I'm sure there are also some national conferences in China. 3. Some universities publish statistics. For example, You can say it's competitive as most candidates are well-qualified. You can see there were applicants from Peking University who got in. I'm sure you can ask around and seek advice from professors from your department about who they are and what they did. But in general, Chinese students tend to do cognitive psychology and neuroscience, which require more technical knowledge. 4. I would say if you want to stand out, you should try to publish. If you work for a good research lab, recruitment is more of the professor's concern than yours. You may help with recruitment, but usually they will tell you how. 5. As I said above, you need to convince your supervisor that they should choose you over local applicants. Besides English communication skills, cultural differences can also be an issue. They need to be assured that you'll be able to adapt to life in a different country while staying productive as a researcher. Another thing you may need to is the budget cut that has hit public universities hard. Some public universities are concerned about funding international students who are not eligible for in-state tuition. Private universities usually have more resources. However, the safest bet is to find a supervisor who is doing research that aligns with your interest and is externally funded. Some grants include funding a PhD student in their budget so the department does not have to pay for that student and the supervisor has more autonomy in who they want. I was once taught by a developmental psychologist who did her undergrad at Peking University and her PhD in the US. So it's also possible for you. Good luck!
  3. School Psychology Fall 2017

    I believe it depends on your goals and priorities. Northeastern provides different concentrations so if you're interested in becoming a BCBA along the way, you can choose their ABA concentration. Other than that you can become an NCSP after completing either program. Worcester State didn't provide data to NASP this year. Otherwise you could also compare other information such as cohort size, PRAXIS passing rate etc. You can certainly ask Worcester State for the info. You may also consider where you want to work in the future. While being an NCSP gives you mobility, many school psychologists choose to find a position in the nearby areas. Attending Northeastern also means higher COA. Whether you're willing to take on more debt is a personal choice.
  4. School Psychology Fall 2017

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  5. School Psychology Fall 2017

    When I applied last year funding was quite bad for both because of state-wide budget cut. Madison is still a bigger name and I've heard bad things about Milwaukee and was advised against applying to it because of lack of organization and faculty members.
  6. Please help me decide where to go!

    I think it depends on how bearable you find staying at School #1. Of course it's true that potentially the brand name and your adviser's network can get you somewhere after graduation, but you cannot ignore the 5-7 years you're gonna spend on working toward your PhD. It can be difficult to endure without passion for what you do or where you stay for that matter. I also agree that the adviser at School #2 is both an opportunity and a risk. You never know what may happen. So obviously School #1 is the safer choice, but if you want to experience something new, School #2 won't be a wrong choice either, especially when diverse experiences are valued
  7. Fall 2017 Acceptance Thread

    Congratulations on your acceptance! Sorry to hear about your funding situation. I heard that funding has always been tricky at Temple. And funding is poorer in school psych than clinical/counseling psych in general. While you can always try to negotiate, you can talk to current students and see whether this is typical first. Then you can decide how you can approach it more appropriately.
  8. Research experience for School Psych PhD programs

    All the applicants invited to the interview day of my program had some research experience. The least I saw was a senior with some lab experience. While I would say never say never, your chances are slim. I think what you can do is offer to work for professors. I was in your shoes back then (working full-time, studying part-time) and I worked for a lab for 10 hours a week for a year on weekday nights, on Saturdays, and during long holidays. I'm not sure if you can find something similar but you can ask around and see.
  9. Changing fields post-grad-- where to take pre-reqs?

    It may be a good idea for him to do the MA/MS first and figure out what he wants to do. There are different licenses with requirements that vary from state to state. In general, a doctoral degree is required to become a licensed psychologist in the US and a professional master's to become a licensed mental health counselor. He may want to do more research on how these qualifications and careers are different from each other.
  10. Changing fields post-grad-- where to take pre-reqs?

    Another way is do an MA/MS in (general) psychology. There are one-year and two-year programs that prepare you for further studies in specialized areas of psychology. He can do that in Japan if there are similar programs. You should ask him what his goal is after getting a master's in clinical psychology. He cannot practice in the US with just a master's, but I'm not sure if he can do so in Japan.
  11. School Psychology Fall 2017

    Because that's what NASP says: You should note that NASP is an organization primarily for specialist-level programs and the information from the link above applies to specialist-level programs only. That's why the term "practicum" is used to refer to the hours they do in their 2nd year while "internship" in their 3rd year. It's different for doctoral-level programs. We typically complete the 600 hours required by NASP in our 3rd or 4th year doing advanced practicum/field-based experience/advanced fieldwork/whatever the school chooses to call it. You can refer to P.7-8 of the following document: and Certification/Standards/2_Credentialing_Standards.pdf I haven't heard a problem like this in my program so I just assumed that is the case for all doctoral programs, especially those that encourage you to do an APA-accredited internship. But I'll certainly confirm with those schools who said your internship must include 600 hours in a school setting and ask what their students/graduates typically do as program requirements vary from program to program.
  12. School Psychology Fall 2017

    Those programs aim to train researchers only and you cannot become an NCSP automatically. You should note that many PhD students found out that they're more interested in practice instead of research in the middle of their studies. Going to a non-NASP-approved program doesn't give you the convenience if you decide to become a practitioner. Of course you can still apply to become an NCSP if you fulfill all the requirements but it's just more troublesome.
  13. 'Stats Sample' During Interview Day

    Thanks for sharing the survey. It's an interesting read. I'm not sure if much can be done as there aren't many quantitative psychologists to begin with (as shown clearly in the survey. There are two quantitative psychologists in my department but both are Europeans). And many soft scientists just follow statistical conventions without understanding the underlying principles and remain users of statistics only. I also agree that changes must be made at the undergraduate level as many programs (except for APA-accredited programs that have many more requirements) only require one or two years of coursework. It may be difficult to fit stat/method courses into the curriculum.
  14. Fall 2017 Applications

    It depends on how much debt one already has and one can take. Tuitions vary a lot from program to program. But when school psychologists are in demand in most states, an Ed.S is not a bad investment option.
  15. US vs UK Master's Programs

    It'll be ideal if you can find out whether the faculty dominantly received their qualifications from the UK or the US. They should be more familiar with the education system they went through. Like my home country which used to follow the British system, it has transformed into the US system over the years and more faculty did their education in the US than in the UK. I think such recognition is important when you look for jobs in your home country. If it's the subject ranking, that's really a red flag as there may only be 80 schools in that subject ranking. In addition to professors, I think it's also important to have intellectual interaction with peers. In this regard, I believe Rochester and Madison are able to attract more able peers you can learn from. It's great that you were able to find someone who did the program. They should be able to tell you more about the program and see whether that's what you're looking for.