Warelin

Today, I found myself extremely bored. As a result, I complied a list of when schools typically notify for first-round acceptances using data from the results page. After, I rearranged things in order by  when programs typically notify.

Michigan State-Dec 10? (Writing, Rhetoric, and American Cultures)
OSU-Jan 25
Wisconsin- Jan 28
Duke- Jan 29
WashU- Jan 31-Feb 2
Northwestern-Jan 31-Feb 2
Berkeley- Jan 31-Feb 2
Chicago- Feb 1/2
Minnesota-Feb 2
Vanderbilt - Feb 2/3
Texas- Feb 3/4
Indiana-Feb 3/4
Purdue-Feb 3-5
UCLA- Feb 4/5
Johns Hopkins- Feb 5
Davis-Feb 5/6
Penn State- Feb 5/6
Pittsburgh-Feb 5/6
Nebraska-Feb 5-7
NYU-Feb 6/7
Maryland-Feb 7-9
Rochester-Feb 8/9
Emory- Feb 8-9
Irvine-Feb 8-9
Illinois- Feb 9-12
Brown-Feb 10-12
LSU-Feb 11
Rice- Feb 12
Buffalo-Feb 12
Missouri- Feb 12-14
Delaware-Feb 12-14
Kansas-Feb 14
Carnegie Mellon- Feb 14/15
Alabama-Feb 14-16
Cornell- Feb 15/16
Miami University-Feb 15/16
Michigan-Feb 16
Connecticut-Feb 16
CUNY-Feb 16/17
Santa Barbara-Feb 17-19
Stanford- Feb 17-Feb 20
Princeton-Feb 17-20
UVA- Feb 19/20
Rutgers-Feb 19/20
Harvard- Feb 20-Feb 22
Columbia- Feb 20-22
Penn- Feb 20-22
Utah-Feb 22
Notre Dame-Feb 23
Yale- Feb 24/25
Washington-Feb 25
Syracuse-Feb 26
Chapel Hill-Feb 26/27
Oregon-Feb 27-28
Iowa-March 2-5
Florida State-March 4-7
Mississippi- March 5-7

Today, I found myself extremely bored. As a result, I complied a list of when schools typically notify for first-round acceptances using data from the results page. After, I rearranged things in order by  when programs typically notify.

Michigan State-Dec 10? (Writing, Rhetoric, and American Cultures)
OSU-Jan 25
Wisconsin- Jan 28
Duke- Jan 29
WashU- Jan 31-Feb 2
Northwestern-Jan 31-Feb 2
Berkeley- Jan 31-Feb 2
Chicago- Feb 1/2
Minnesota-Feb 2
Vanderbilt - Feb 2/3
Texas- Feb 3/4
Indiana-Feb 3/4
Purdue-Feb 3-5
UCLA- Feb 4/5
Johns Hopkins- Feb 5
Davis-Feb 5/6
Penn State- Feb 5/6
Pittsburgh-Feb 5/6
Nebraska-Feb 5-7
NYU-Feb 6/7
Maryland-Feb 7-9
Rochester-Feb 8/9
Emory- Feb 8-9
Irvine-Feb 8-9
Illinois- Feb 9-12
Brown-Feb 10-12
LSU-Feb 11
Rice- Feb 12
Buffalo-Feb 12
Missouri- Feb 12-14
Delaware-Feb 12-14
Kansas-Feb 14
Carnegie Mellon- Feb 14/15
Alabama-Feb 14-16
Cornell- Feb 15/16
Miami University-Feb 15/16
Michigan-Feb 16
Connecticut-Feb 16
CUNY-Feb 16/17
Santa Barbara-Feb 17-19
Stanford- Feb 17-Feb 20
Princeton-Feb 17-20
UVA- Feb 19/20
Rutgers-Feb 19/20
Harvard- Feb 20-Feb 22
Columbia- Feb 20-22
Penn- Feb 20-22
Utah-Feb 22
Notre Dame-Feb 23
Yale- Feb 24/25
Washington-Feb 25
Syracuse-Feb 26
Chapel Hill-Feb 26/27
Oregon-Feb 27-28
Iowa-March 2-5
Florida State-March 4-7
Mississippi- March 5-7

Today, I found myself extremely bored. As a result, I complied a list of when schools typically notify for first-round acceptances using data from the results page. After, I rearranged things in order by  when programs typically notify.

Michigan State-Dec 10? (Writing, Rhetoric, and American Cultures)
OSU-Jan 25
Wisconsin- Jan 28
Duke- Jan 29
WashU- Jan 31-Feb 2
Northwestern-Jan 31-Feb 2
Berkeley- Jan 31-Feb 2
Chicago- Feb 1/2
Minnesota-Feb 2
Vanderbilt - Feb 2/3
Texas- Feb 3/4
Indiana-Feb 3/4
Purdue-Feb 3-5
UCLA- Feb 4/5
Johns Hopkins- Feb 5
Davis-Feb 5/6
Penn State- Feb 5/6
Pittsburgh-Feb 5/6
Nebraska-Feb 5-7
NYU-Feb 6/7
Maryland-Feb 7-9
Rochester-Feb 8/9
Emory- Feb 8-9
Irvine-Feb 8-9
Illinois- Feb 9-12
Brown-Feb 10-12
LSU-Feb 11
Rice- Feb 12
Buffalo-Feb 12
Missouri- Feb 12-14
Delaware-Feb 12-14
Kansas-Feb 14
Carnegie Mellon- Feb 14/15
Alabama-Feb 14-16
Cornell- Feb 15/16
Miami University-Feb 15/16
Michigan-Feb 16
Connecticut-Feb 16
CUNY-Feb 16/17
Santa Barbara-Feb 17-19
Stanford- Feb 17-Feb 20
Princeton-Feb 17-20
UVA- Feb 19/20
Rutgers-Feb 19/20
Harvard- Feb 20-Feb 22
Columbia- Feb 20-22
Penn- Feb 20-22
Utah-Feb 22
Notre Dame-Feb 23
Yale- Feb 24/25
Washington-Feb 25
Syracuse-Feb 26
Chapel Hill-Feb 26/27
Oregon-Feb 27-28
Iowa-March 2-5
Florida State-March 4-7
Mississippi- March 5-7

We will never know the true meanings of questions.
On a side note: Comparing Providence (Brown) or Cambridge (Harvard) to New York City might not be the way to look at it. Chicago might be a bit easier to compare to. According to the University of Chicago, "In recent years, we have received around 600 applications a year and have admitted anywhere from 2% to 5% of those applicants into our PhD program." I think another thread mentioned that a school in Philadelphia (UPenn) received more than 700 applications one year.
I think what makes UPenn and Columbia receive more applications than most schools are they have several groups of people applying to them:
1)People only applying to top 10/20 programs
2) People only applying to ivy league colleges
3) People applying to live in major cities
4) People applying to live in world-class cities
5) People unaware that UPenn and Columbia are ivy-league colleges.

There are indeed some people who believe that UPenn is just a state school and have never heard of Columbia since it isn't Harvard/Yale/Princeton. I think HYP may actually receive less applications because people are intimidated by them.

Quick side note:
I found this: https://hr.msu.edu/hiring/studentemployment/gradasst/stipendRanges.htm

A level one half-time pays between $682 and $1186 biweekly. They pay about 19.5 times per academic year according to their numbers.

682*19.5= $13,299
1186*19.5=$23,127
The health portion of the SI charge for Fall and Spring is $1,504  ($152 bi-weekly for Fall 2016  and $156  bi-weekly for Spring 2017),  with the remaining $4,700 (477  bi-weekly for Fall 2016 and $487 bi-weekly for Spring 2017) covering the tuition.

Welcome to GF, Chloe.

What about those 4 programs attract you? For MA programs, being funded is the most important thing.  Rankings don't really matter for MA programs. If I remember correctly, all 4 of those schools on the Ph.D. level are focused very much on teaching.

Welcome to GF, Chloe.

What about those 4 programs attract you? For MA programs, being funded is the most important thing.  Rankings don't really matter for MA programs. If I remember correctly, all 4 of those schools on the Ph.D. level are focused very much on teaching.

The cost of sending an official transcript can be anywhere from what I've seen can be between $5-$15 from each school you've attended. If you're applying to 10 schools, this would be between $50-150. If you attended 2 schools and are applying to 10, this could be between $100-$300.

GRE scores cost $27 to send per school. Assuming all 10 schools want them and you didn't select them when you tested, that's another $270. Supposing that half of these schools want the GRE subject test, that's another $135.
I've seen applications as low as $40 and as high as $120. Most applications seem to hover around 70-90. Taking the average, this means another $800.
Considering only one college attended, applying to 10: $800+$270+$135+100= $1305
Considering the cost of the GRE ($205) and the Lit Exam ($150), this totals $1660.

Some schools do offer fee waivers, but often it requires a very strict set of requirements to be met.

(According to my notes: UPenn cost me 107 to apply to last year, Yale cost me 159, Cornell 149, Rutgers 124) Those costs will be going up for me slightly due to an added transcript after next year. Applying can be very expensive.

From my understanding, religion plays no role in any graduate school in English.

Hi Woosh.
Have you looked into getting application fee waivers? While you can e-mail the programs individually, the Big 10 alliance streamlines the process a bit more: https://www.btaa.org/students/freeapp/introduction

I'm not sure which schools you're interested in but a few schools you could be interested in are there. I think the rule is that you must apply for the fee waiver between September-Nov 15. Each school has different rules on to which applicants they grant waivers to. In addition, there are a limited number of waivers granted so it's best not to apply for a fee waiver if you know that you wouldn't apply.

I think it's important to remember (not saying you aren't but might be helpful for other applicants) that what appears to be a high stipend may not get as far as one thinks.

For example, CUNY (while a great school) pays 25k. Alabama pays 13.5k. And you mentioned SC offers 8.5k per semester which equals 17k per year.

In this example, I'll be using myapartmentmap to compare cost of living for rent only within a 10 mile radius.

According to this, the cost of rent near CUNY runs around $2,757 monthly. $2,757*12= $33,084
According to this, the cost of rent near Alabama runs around $697 monthly. $697*12=$8,364
According to this, the cost of rent near South Carolina runs around $744 monthly. $744*12=8,928

Stipend-Rent costs
CUNY: 25,000-33,084= -8,084
Alabama: 13,500-8,364= 5,136
South Carolina: 17,000-8,928= 8,072
While I would never advise choosing any school based on income after rent, I think it's an important factor to consider. These are unfortunately just generalizations in the average rent cost and assumes you'd be living alone in a 1 bedroom apartment with no roommates. CUNY could work out greatly for someone who splits housing costs with another individual. (and it's much easier to find a roommate in NYC than it is in most other places.)

I'd also like to point out that Alabama does have an additional amount provided to those who are accepted into their Strode program, but it is a lot harder to gain admission into since it's sort of separately funded from everything else. From the scholars I've spoken to in the strode program, their previous coursework has been focused on the early modern period.

On a side note, I'm not sure on their reputation in southern literature, but Vanderbilt offers a free application to apply.
 

We will never know the true meanings of questions.
On a side note: Comparing Providence (Brown) or Cambridge (Harvard) to New York City might not be the way to look at it. Chicago might be a bit easier to compare to. According to the University of Chicago, "In recent years, we have received around 600 applications a year and have admitted anywhere from 2% to 5% of those applicants into our PhD program." I think another thread mentioned that a school in Philadelphia (UPenn) received more than 700 applications one year.
I think what makes UPenn and Columbia receive more applications than most schools are they have several groups of people applying to them:
1)People only applying to top 10/20 programs
2) People only applying to ivy league colleges
3) People applying to live in major cities
4) People applying to live in world-class cities
5) People unaware that UPenn and Columbia are ivy-league colleges.

There are indeed some people who believe that UPenn is just a state school and have never heard of Columbia since it isn't Harvard/Yale/Princeton. I think HYP may actually receive less applications because people are intimidated by them.

We will never know the true meanings of questions.
On a side note: Comparing Providence (Brown) or Cambridge (Harvard) to New York City might not be the way to look at it. Chicago might be a bit easier to compare to. According to the University of Chicago, "In recent years, we have received around 600 applications a year and have admitted anywhere from 2% to 5% of those applicants into our PhD program." I think another thread mentioned that a school in Philadelphia (UPenn) received more than 700 applications one year.
I think what makes UPenn and Columbia receive more applications than most schools are they have several groups of people applying to them:
1)People only applying to top 10/20 programs
2) People only applying to ivy league colleges
3) People applying to live in major cities
4) People applying to live in world-class cities
5) People unaware that UPenn and Columbia are ivy-league colleges.

There are indeed some people who believe that UPenn is just a state school and have never heard of Columbia since it isn't Harvard/Yale/Princeton. I think HYP may actually receive less applications because people are intimidated by them.

We will never know the true meanings of questions.
On a side note: Comparing Providence (Brown) or Cambridge (Harvard) to New York City might not be the way to look at it. Chicago might be a bit easier to compare to. According to the University of Chicago, "In recent years, we have received around 600 applications a year and have admitted anywhere from 2% to 5% of those applicants into our PhD program." I think another thread mentioned that a school in Philadelphia (UPenn) received more than 700 applications one year.
I think what makes UPenn and Columbia receive more applications than most schools are they have several groups of people applying to them:
1)People only applying to top 10/20 programs
2) People only applying to ivy league colleges
3) People applying to live in major cities
4) People applying to live in world-class cities
5) People unaware that UPenn and Columbia are ivy-league colleges.

There are indeed some people who believe that UPenn is just a state school and have never heard of Columbia since it isn't Harvard/Yale/Princeton. I think HYP may actually receive less applications because people are intimidated by them.

This may not be what you want to here but multiple schools have stated that the Writing Sample and Statement of Purpose are the two most important parts of your application materials. Grades and GRE scores can keep people out of certain schools, but they won't be what gets someone into a school. It's also important to realize that there isn't a "good" or "bad" writing sample. It's more of a "how good" is this and whether or not you fit in with their program. The latter means different things to different people all of which or none of which the program may use in determing whether they see fit or not.

This may not be what you want to here but multiple schools have stated that the Writing Sample and Statement of Purpose are the two most important parts of your application materials. Grades and GRE scores can keep people out of certain schools, but they won't be what gets someone into a school. It's also important to realize that there isn't a "good" or "bad" writing sample. It's more of a "how good" is this and whether or not you fit in with their program. The latter means different things to different people all of which or none of which the program may use in determing whether they see fit or not.

This may not be what you want to here but multiple schools have stated that the Writing Sample and Statement of Purpose are the two most important parts of your application materials. Grades and GRE scores can keep people out of certain schools, but they won't be what gets someone into a school. It's also important to realize that there isn't a "good" or "bad" writing sample. It's more of a "how good" is this and whether or not you fit in with their program. The latter means different things to different people all of which or none of which the program may use in determing whether they see fit or not.

Small note on BA-to-phd Applicants: Some programs *may* prefer to train candidates to their way of doing things. They might think it's easier to get them to learn how to do things under their style.
Small note on MA-to-phd Applicants: Some programs consider MA applicants to be more ready for the PHD since they have previous graduate work. They may consider them less likely to drop out.

Some programs are generous in the amount of coursework they allow you to "transfer" in for credit. Others accept little-to-no previous graduate coursework. Most programs do accept a mixture of MA and BA applicants into their phd program.
 
 

Small note on BA-to-phd Applicants: Some programs *may* prefer to train candidates to their way of doing things. They might think it's easier to get them to learn how to do things under their style.
Small note on MA-to-phd Applicants: Some programs consider MA applicants to be more ready for the PHD since they have previous graduate work. They may consider them less likely to drop out.

Some programs are generous in the amount of coursework they allow you to "transfer" in for credit. Others accept little-to-no previous graduate coursework. Most programs do accept a mixture of MA and BA applicants into their phd program.
 
 

Maybe I can provide some more context? I mentioned in your thread about NYU that I'm at UT Austin, and it's one of those programs with no terminal MA, but each cohort is composed of about 60/40 BA holders to MA holders. The only major difference is that MA holders have one less year guaranteed funding and BA holders are required to write a short MA thesis at the end of the second year. This also means you can't really transfer any outside credit.
I was a BA only entrance in 2013, and I'd agree with everything @kayrabbit and @Warelin said (hey y'all!). In particular, I want to focus on the idea that BA holders are substantively better applicants because that's sooooo not the case. It is becoming more common for programs to want to solely train their students, as there is a wide variation in departmental styles and concerns. Some departments are theory heavy, while others are more historicist or ecocritical in focus. Some require a wide ranging knowledge of the field through coursework, while others allow students complete control to study what piques their interest. It can be hard for someone to receive an MA from one type of program and then move to another institution for the PhD, and it's almost impossible to understand a program's true culture without actually being immersed in it. That's just part of the many reasons why programs could prefer BA holders.
On the other hand, I've just thought back on my cohort (which we consider whoever you entered with), and having started with 13 other BA holders, 4 of those people have left the program; two wrote their MA report and left, another left after a year, and one stayed for three years but left before comps. On the other hand, all of the people from my cohort with MAs are still here,  and that's because they, for the most part, were aware of what they were getting into, having done it (to a lesser extent) for two years. That didn't mean they had a better grasp on their actual research or that they were leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of us, but the BA holders were also fumbling idiots. As someone who is actually writing about what I said I would in my SOP, trust me. I was still an actual idiot who rambled on about my half-baked ideas that I was excited about, but I've been able to take any class I wanted and that strange mix of influences has helped me articulate an actual dissertation topic where before I just had interests. My roommate otoh came in with an MA, and very much felt like she was starting from scratch, but she also came in with an approach to doing the work that can only be gained from experience. Our progress through the program has been right on schedule, but our actual day to day experience of working with professors in our fields is so radically different that we can only laugh/cry sometimes.
All this to say, if you get in with a BA, thank whoever you swear at and don't worry about feeling inadequate. If you have to do an MA and apply again, you'll gain some useful knowledge that will cut down the ridiculously steep learning curve that is coursework. I went to a small university that no one's ever heard of for my BA, and one of my friends from there is also pursuing her English PhD. She chose to take an MA acceptance the year we applied, whereas I took a break year in Pittsburgh and got into a straight to PhD on my second try. Five years later, we talk regularly about how our experiences have differed now that she's in her second year at her PhD institution, whereas I'm a fourth year at Austin. The differences in experiences are huge, but we're both happy with our choices. Neither way is the only right way, and you'll get where you need to go.

Small note on BA-to-phd Applicants: Some programs *may* prefer to train candidates to their way of doing things. They might think it's easier to get them to learn how to do things under their style.
Small note on MA-to-phd Applicants: Some programs consider MA applicants to be more ready for the PHD since they have previous graduate work. They may consider them less likely to drop out.

Some programs are generous in the amount of coursework they allow you to "transfer" in for credit. Others accept little-to-no previous graduate coursework. Most programs do accept a mixture of MA and BA applicants into their phd program.
 
 

Small note on BA-to-phd Applicants: Some programs *may* prefer to train candidates to their way of doing things. They might think it's easier to get them to learn how to do things under their style.
Small note on MA-to-phd Applicants: Some programs consider MA applicants to be more ready for the PHD since they have previous graduate work. They may consider them less likely to drop out.

Some programs are generous in the amount of coursework they allow you to "transfer" in for credit. Others accept little-to-no previous graduate coursework. Most programs do accept a mixture of MA and BA applicants into their phd program.
 
 

I think it's important to remember (not saying you aren't but might be helpful for other applicants) that what appears to be a high stipend may not get as far as one thinks.

For example, CUNY (while a great school) pays 25k. Alabama pays 13.5k. And you mentioned SC offers 8.5k per semester which equals 17k per year.

In this example, I'll be using myapartmentmap to compare cost of living for rent only within a 10 mile radius.

According to this, the cost of rent near CUNY runs around $2,757 monthly. $2,757*12= $33,084
According to this, the cost of rent near Alabama runs around $697 monthly. $697*12=$8,364
According to this, the cost of rent near South Carolina runs around $744 monthly. $744*12=8,928

Stipend-Rent costs
CUNY: 25,000-33,084= -8,084
Alabama: 13,500-8,364= 5,136
South Carolina: 17,000-8,928= 8,072
While I would never advise choosing any school based on income after rent, I think it's an important factor to consider. These are unfortunately just generalizations in the average rent cost and assumes you'd be living alone in a 1 bedroom apartment with no roommates. CUNY could work out greatly for someone who splits housing costs with another individual. (and it's much easier to find a roommate in NYC than it is in most other places.)

I'd also like to point out that Alabama does have an additional amount provided to those who are accepted into their Strode program, but it is a lot harder to gain admission into since it's sort of separately funded from everything else. From the scholars I've spoken to in the strode program, their previous coursework has been focused on the early modern period.

On a side note, I'm not sure on their reputation in southern literature, but Vanderbilt offers a free application to apply.
 

I think it's important to remember (not saying you aren't but might be helpful for other applicants) that what appears to be a high stipend may not get as far as one thinks.

For example, CUNY (while a great school) pays 25k. Alabama pays 13.5k. And you mentioned SC offers 8.5k per semester which equals 17k per year.

In this example, I'll be using myapartmentmap to compare cost of living for rent only within a 10 mile radius.

According to this, the cost of rent near CUNY runs around $2,757 monthly. $2,757*12= $33,084
According to this, the cost of rent near Alabama runs around $697 monthly. $697*12=$8,364
According to this, the cost of rent near South Carolina runs around $744 monthly. $744*12=8,928

Stipend-Rent costs
CUNY: 25,000-33,084= -8,084
Alabama: 13,500-8,364= 5,136
South Carolina: 17,000-8,928= 8,072
While I would never advise choosing any school based on income after rent, I think it's an important factor to consider. These are unfortunately just generalizations in the average rent cost and assumes you'd be living alone in a 1 bedroom apartment with no roommates. CUNY could work out greatly for someone who splits housing costs with another individual. (and it's much easier to find a roommate in NYC than it is in most other places.)

I'd also like to point out that Alabama does have an additional amount provided to those who are accepted into their Strode program, but it is a lot harder to gain admission into since it's sort of separately funded from everything else. From the scholars I've spoken to in the strode program, their previous coursework has been focused on the early modern period.

On a side note, I'm not sure on their reputation in southern literature, but Vanderbilt offers a free application to apply.
 

I think it's important to remember (not saying you aren't but might be helpful for other applicants) that what appears to be a high stipend may not get as far as one thinks.

For example, CUNY (while a great school) pays 25k. Alabama pays 13.5k. And you mentioned SC offers 8.5k per semester which equals 17k per year.

In this example, I'll be using myapartmentmap to compare cost of living for rent only within a 10 mile radius.

According to this, the cost of rent near CUNY runs around $2,757 monthly. $2,757*12= $33,084
According to this, the cost of rent near Alabama runs around $697 monthly. $697*12=$8,364
According to this, the cost of rent near South Carolina runs around $744 monthly. $744*12=8,928

Stipend-Rent costs
CUNY: 25,000-33,084= -8,084
Alabama: 13,500-8,364= 5,136
South Carolina: 17,000-8,928= 8,072
While I would never advise choosing any school based on income after rent, I think it's an important factor to consider. These are unfortunately just generalizations in the average rent cost and assumes you'd be living alone in a 1 bedroom apartment with no roommates. CUNY could work out greatly for someone who splits housing costs with another individual. (and it's much easier to find a roommate in NYC than it is in most other places.)

I'd also like to point out that Alabama does have an additional amount provided to those who are accepted into their Strode program, but it is a lot harder to gain admission into since it's sort of separately funded from everything else. From the scholars I've spoken to in the strode program, their previous coursework has been focused on the early modern period.

On a side note, I'm not sure on their reputation in southern literature, but Vanderbilt offers a free application to apply.