Physicsisphysics Posted March 30, 2020 Posted March 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, cry3times said: Another data point: Application last updated 12/20/19. Applied under physics (including optics), with AFOSR BAA. P.S. @Physicsisphysics , you the real MVP for putting in all this work calling, etc.! Too kind!! Thanks! And hey same boat --- physics and 12/24!
BCHGang Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Physicsisphysics said: What's your field of study? Also they called back and said not to worry about the date and that 'everybody' is still in the running. I'll trust them on this. Holy crap man, you're awesome ❤️ Physicsisphysics 1
thel Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Adding another datapoint: Application Period - (9/4/2019 - 12/6/2019) Discipline: Cognitive, Neural, And Behavioral Sciences Last Update:2/28/2020
ScienceGeek Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 For those of you who have their last update in February, did you all get that second email post submission? And for those of you who have their last update the day of submission, did you get two emails post submission? I hope that makes sense haha. I'm curious if the half of applicants that were sent two emails have more recent updates.
3st3rb Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Okay here's what I have so far for the 2020 updates: (Apologies for any misspelled usernames) SFS: Physics, 02/28 Scavanaugh: Civil & Environmental Eng., 2/28 (ARO) StPolarBear: 02/19 Redox9797: ChemE, 01/27 Curie 2020: MatSci 02/28/20 Thel: Cog., Neural, Behavioral, 02/28 SomethingSimple: Bio Sciences, 02/28 (ARO) Momo1111: 02/26 (ARO) 3st3rb: Electrical Eng, 02/28 (ARO) For Dec updates: Surface4: Geosciences 12/6 PhysicsIsPhysics: Physics, 12/24 (AFRL) ScienceGeek: Comp. Sci., 12/6, (ARO) BCHgang: MechE, 12/24 (ARO) UrMum: Comp. Sci., 12/23 (AFRL) CellBioGal: 12/20 (ARO) Cri3Times: Physics, 12/20 (AFRL) clb21565: Life & Bio Sciences, 12/6 Edited March 31, 2020 by 3st3rb was missing one pt. thel, scavanaugh and Physicsisphysics 3
ScienceGeek Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks @3st3rb, we'll figure this out as results come in ☺️ Physicsisphysics 1
scavanaugh Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 @3st3rb Nice! Throw me in as Civil/Environmental Engineering, ARO. Hopefully we find out sooner rather than later
Physicsisphysics Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Interesting the Air Force updates are all in December. Man, I'm not excited for the wait...I hope these results come out this week and not April 15th
somethingsimple Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, ScienceGeek said: For those of you who have their last update in February, did you all get that second email post submission? And for those of you who have their last update the day of submission, did you get two emails post submission? I hope that makes sense haha. I'm curious if the half of applicants that were sent two emails have more recent updates. The last email I received was 12/15 confirming my application had been validated. Physicsisphysics 1
3st3rb Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 3 hours ago, ScienceGeek said: For those of you who have their last update in February, did you all get that second email post submission? And for those of you who have their last update the day of submission, did you get two emails post submission? I hope that makes sense haha. I'm curious if the half of applicants that were sent two emails have more recent updates. I got the following: -submission conf. email on the 6th -Email on the 11th telling me I had an error on my app and to go fix it -submission conf. email again on the 11th after I fixed the error -Validation email on the 15th
3st3rb Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Physicsisphysics said: Interesting the Air Force updates are all in December. Man, I'm not excited for the wait...I hope these results come out this week and not April 15th Same. I applied to NSF and didn't get it, though I did get Honorable mention. If I hear back bad news from NDSEG I'm gonna have to go fill out an application to TA this upcoming fall, so it'd be nice to know now. scavanaugh 1
Physicsisphysics Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 Does anybody know anything about the typical acceptance rate / # of applicants for the NDSEG?
Momo1111 Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Physicsisphysics said: Does anybody know anything about the typical acceptance rate / # of applicants for the NDSEG? I believe it’s about 5% so pretty competitive. Physicsisphysics 1
3st3rb Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Physicsisphysics said: Does anybody know anything about the typical acceptance rate / # of applicants for the NDSEG? I think it's ~2000 and depending on year somewhere between 5-10%. Physicsisphysics 1
3st3rb Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 Erm so I found a ppt while searching for something on a different fellowship and in it are two slides from the lady that is the DoD program manager for this fellowship and they have selection criteria (loosely) and a proposed timeline though unsure how this holds up given everything going on in the world rn. slides 30-37 for those interested http://www.oasdre-hbcumiworkshop.com/2019_presentations/07-Wisecarver_Robinson_HBCU_Workshop_with_AFOSR_overview.pdf BCHGang 1
BCHGang Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, 3st3rb said: Erm so I found a ppt while searching for something on a different fellowship and in it are two slides from the lady that is the DoD program manager for this fellowship and they have selection criteria (loosely) and a proposed timeline though unsure how this holds up given everything going on in the world rn. slides 30-37 for those interested http://www.oasdre-hbcumiworkshop.com/2019_presentations/07-Wisecarver_Robinson_HBCU_Workshop_with_AFOSR_overview.pdf I don't think I got it. The last updated date is 12/24 for me, which squarely lies in the preliminary review panel. No updates beyond that. RIP.
BCHGang Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 On 3/30/2020 at 4:18 PM, Physicsisphysics said: Also they called back and said not to worry about the date and that 'everybody' is still in the running. I'll trust them on this. To play Devil's advocate, they could have said this in an attempt to calm everyone down and make people less anxious.
Momo1111 Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, BCHGang said: To play Devil's advocate, they could have said this in an attempt to calm everyone down and make people less anxious. If NSF can do it, so can NDSEG ?? BCHGang 1
BCHGang Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 Just now, Momo1111 said: If NSF can do it, so can NDSEG ?? idk, I just feel horrible. Worked my butt off on that application. And sincerely did the best I could. It feels like a slap in the face.
Physicsisphysics Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) i honestly don't think the date means anything --- when I called they said that date was something from Sysplus' end and not the DOD. Also considering that the acceptance rate is like 5%, look at the percentage of January/February dates vs December. Yeah sure, GradCafe is self-selecting, so the proportion of winners to not-winners is higher than 5%, but the split between Jan/Feb and Dec is roughly 50/50. So it might just mean nothing. What's interesting is the Powerpoint though --- it says decisions are announced on March 20th? Really weird, since we're past that and we haven't heard anything. Edited April 1, 2020 by Physicsisphysics
mleo Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 So if you look at last years thread, some agencies emailed their selection before Sysplus sent anything. I emailed Sysplus about this, and it looks like this year, all agencies will inform sysplus first, then sysplus will then email everyone at one time. Maybe that is the reason for going past the 20 March date. Out of curiosity for those of you who applied to NSF and got honorable mention, was your research proposal very similar to what you submitted to NDSEG? Or was your NSF proposal less military oriented? I am on an Army funded project and I was in the Army so both were very similar.
3st3rb Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, mleo said: So if you look at last years thread, some agencies emailed their selection before Sysplus sent anything. I emailed Sysplus about this, and it looks like this year, all agencies will inform sysplus first, then sysplus will then email everyone at one time. Maybe that is the reason for going past the 20 March date. Out of curiosity for those of you who applied to NSF and got honorable mention, was your research proposal very similar to what you submitted to NDSEG? Or was your NSF proposal less military oriented? I am on an Army funded project and I was in the Army so both were very similar. Mine were both pretty similar. The big difference I think was that for NSF I focused more on the benefit my work could provide to autonomous consumer applications and for NDSEG it was more focused on how my work was critical for mission assurance in contested environments.
BCHGang Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 If they released the results today, saying we got in, and then said "April Fools !", that would be the cruelest joke ever ! ? mleo and scavanaugh 2
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