GoldenDog Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, OhTheStress said: Poor Rob. I really do think he deserves a huge round of applause and some kind of thank-you gift for putting up with our crap and the DoD's crap. Does anyone still have fax machines anymore? My old job had one and the only thing it was ever used for was getting fax spam (which is apparently a thing). You're not wrong, but at the same time he should have known better than to confidently state that everything would be done by the 15th. That is totally on him, regardless of the DOD. Imakephotonsdothings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decembergang2020 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, GoldenDog said: You're not wrong, but at the same time he should have known better than to confidently state that everything would be done by the 15th. That is totally on him, regardless of the DOD. He's doing the best he can with the information he's given. Hindsight 20/20. There's no one individual at fault, and no matter how anxious we feel, the people on the other side are almost certainly more stressed trying to get the decisions out asap. Physicsisphysics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertac93 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 He responded to the e-mail I sent as well. Seems like he's cautiously optimistic about results today, but no guarantees obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenDog Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, decembergang2020 said: He's doing the best he can with the information he's given. Hindsight 20/20. There's no one individual at fault, and no matter how anxious we feel, the people on the other side are almost certainly more stressed trying to get the decisions out asap. Eh. I think that one thing I've learned in graduate school so far is that speculation and unwarranted assumptions primarily lead to regret above all else. Unless there was something significant that changed, I'd still say he could have avoided making such statements. There is a reason that you see a lot of administrators hedge when asked questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdothedatesmean Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Can Rob be the keynote speaker at the ~December Gang~ conference? scientistsalarian, biomed_gal, mleo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormerNdsegLurker Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Anyone else get a 4/17 update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndseg_to_1000 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Just reached out to my PI at the DoD asking if he had heard of any IT issues going on. He said "the networks are overloaded and it's hard to connect to the VPN but I'm not sure about specifics" ?♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopefulstudent1997 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, FormerNdsegLurker said: Anyone else get a 4/17 update? Same--another round of this shit incoming lmao Edited April 17, 2020 by hopefulstudent1997 clarification FormerNdsegLurker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholistic Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 While I respect the difficult job that Rob and the rest of the NDSEG staff have, I would rather them say "We hope to get this out by Monday" and then release it today, than to keep saying "We are shooting for the end of the day today" 3 days in a row. biomed_gal, hopefulstudent1997, justanothergradstudent and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thel Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Just now, hopefulstudent1997 said: Same Seems like a couple of people have added to the spreadsheet FormerNdsegLurker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormerNdsegLurker Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Just now, hopefulstudent1997 said: Same--another round of this shit incoming lmao I've officially lost all hope in what these dates mean hopefulstudent1997, Physicsisphysics and thel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanothergradstudent Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, FormerNdsegLurker said: I've officially lost all hope in what these dates mean FormerNdsegLurker and OhTheStress 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFS Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 4/17 for me now, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertac93 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 The hopeful side of me says my 4/6 update could still be a good thing. The realistic side of me sees that almost every 4/17 update was a 4/16 update, and they're probably just updating the applications of awardees or honorable mentions / alternates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormerNdsegLurker Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) I can't wait for us to update that sheet with results and finally know for sure if they meant anything or not Edit: and also get the results too lol but I'm not feeling very optimistic after seeing how qualified this group is Edited April 17, 2020 by FormerNdsegLurker cellbiogal and alcoholistic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helloFromLongTimeLurker Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Can we add a column for "No update since submission"? There are several of us who've said something in this forum and I'm super curious to see if our apps actually didn't make it into review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholistic Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Just now, FormerNdsegLurker said: I can't wait for us to update that sheet with results and finally know for sure if they meant anything or not Edit: and also get the results too lol but I'm not feeling very optimistic after seeing how qualified this group is Honestly same. I'm just in this thread because coronavirus is debilitatingly isolating. Thanks for making me not feel like the most neurotic grad student ever. ~December Gang~ fl1989, FormerNdsegLurker and scientistsalarian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3st3rb Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, helloFromLongTimeLurker said: Can we add a column for "No update since submission"? There are several of us who've said something in this forum and I'm super curious to see if our apps actually didn't make it into review. Yeah live your dream. thel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenDog Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, alcoholistic said: While I respect the difficult job that Rob and the rest of the NDSEG staff have, I would rather them say "We hope to get this out by Monday" and then release it today, than to keep saying "We are shooting for the end of the day today" 3 days in a row. Yes, exactly my point. He could easily have even just gone with "I'm not sure when this will be sorted out" since the beginning of this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellbiogal Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, helloFromLongTimeLurker said: Can we add a column for "No update since submission"? There are several of us who've said something in this forum and I'm super curious to see if our apps actually didn't make it into review. The December column originally had individual dates but someone overwrote it with "x" as in order to make tallying easier. But I liked the dates system because it showed the difference between people with late december updates and people with no update since submitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3st3rb Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, cellbiogal said: The December column originally had individual dates but someone overwrote it with "x" as in order to make tallying easier. But I liked the dates system because it showed the difference between people with late december updates and people with no update since submitting. When we all get our results and update we can go in and also add in our dates back in again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Lurks-a-lot Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) Just looked at the worksheet. If they are using GPA/GRE to select 1st round picks, they must set the bar really high. Also, for those of you that win NDSEG and NSF, can I whichever one you don't want? I think that is going to be the only way I get the monies... Edited April 17, 2020 by Sir Lurks-a-lot Cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholistic Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Just a reminder if anyone wants to stay in touch later, I've been putting together a DecemberGang Discord and mailing list. Mailing List Sign Up:https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScW1QMgC54-kKcDQTijF_bSXQi10qwr8VZHqHR3J62FRYQHew/viewform?usp=sf_link Mailing List Emails (Request Access to protect emails):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zKWURsJSQHNsJ2ckWMs_ehpwo6Ucp20AiUCYaz5eDGI/edit?usp=sharing Discord: https://discord.gg/EYXGZF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3st3rb Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sir Lurks-a-lot said: Just looked at the worksheet. If they are using GPA/GRE to select 1st round picks, they must set the bar really high. Also, for those of you that win NDSEG and NSF, can I whichever one you don't want? I think that is going to be the only way I get the monies... Idk keep hope! I got a NSF HM and I'll have you know my UG/Grad GPAs are going to be outliers on that table if and when I add them. FormerNdsegLurker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholistic Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Just now, 3st3rb said: Idk keep hope! I got a NSF HM and I'll have you know my UG/Grad GPAs are going to be outliers on that table if and when I add them. This very much. We are all awesome dedicated researchers. No fellowship/ single metric is a sign of your worth as a researcher. We just are all hoping for some lottery results to come out! Which is not to discount anyone's achievement by receiving a prestigious fellowship. Just to remind people to take a deep breath (hopefully indoors and safe from COVID) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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