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I feel bad about this, because obviously it is rarely if ever the fault of the faculty. However, as far as M.A. programs go, I was told that CSU LA's GAships have been drying up in recent years. I chose not to attend, but it is obviously one of the very rare M.A. programs that covers the standard fare and someone like Deleuze so prospective students might want to ask about this development.

I'm curious if anyone active on this board has taken this path, as I've noticed that quite a few graduates of the top terminal M.A. programs have entered law school and I'm curious about doing this myself.

well well well I might just hop in.

Yup, I agree! Also - three hour time difference!

Thanks! I decided that I'm fucking doing it anyway. I think it will be a valuable learning opportunity in and of itself. I'm 99% sure I'm moving, too, because if I tried to move in the Winter... I don't think so. I'm thinking that even if in-person instruction isn't available, fellow students could work out weekly discussion groups at someone's home with proper safety precautions.

Do you mean rent plus utilities or...? I wasn't seeing anything nearly that high. Of course, I'm fine with a 30+ minute public transit commute, so maybe that's why? I was seeing a decent number of options around the $1400 mark, but I was really hoping for cheaper. The only sub-$1000 lead I've found can't seem to tell me when I can actually apply, but I've applied to some places that are around $1300 and appear pretty solid. I want to find roommates eventually, but I'm almost 26 years old: I've had roommates for a long time now, nightmarish roommate situations like you would not even believe, and I've kept my rent low (and I mean low - my highest rent of all time was $400 a month) - I'm not risking shitty roommates when I've spent three years building my credit score, reading, and researching programs. If I was dirt poor, it'd be a different story. Are there any places that aren't in Long Beach but would be a reasonable commute? That's where I'm totally clueless. According to the posts I see on GradCafe, I've apparently never lived in a good neighborhood in my whole life and I love my parents' neighborhood to this day. But when someone says "bad neighborhood", I'm assuming they mean "someone can come up and mug you with impunity."

one little last bump just in case...

Let's be honest: how many schools have a full-time tenured or tenure-track professor who is proficient at teaching logic? I wouldn't imagine a low mark would hurt, if only because I'd think that at most schools a student who received an A+ in an introductory logic course at School X isn't necessarily all that more well-versed in the subject than a student with with a C at School Y. Every field in philosophy is so fucking broad. There are people in "subfield" A who read entire groups of people in philosophy and other fields that other individuals in said subfield do not read much at all.

I'm really hoping it's worth it to move across the country to start an M.A. program online, because I don't know what I'm going to do otherwise.

I haven't lived there or known anyone who has, but it is a nice area. My friend lives in a house about a block away and the neighborhood is quite good and convenient.

I have similar concerns, however it does not seem like campuses will remain closed. Arizona president: "We have launched antibody testing for the county and will soon begin antibody testing 250,000 health care workers and first responders for the state of Arizona in partnership with the Governor’s Office. Next, we will test our own students, faculty and staff. We are expanding our diagnostic testing capability for COVID-19 infection. In short, we are working with local and national experts to create best-in-class strategies to reopen the campus. Our plan is to Test, Trace and Treat to present our campus community a flexible and adaptive teaching and learning environment." Brown president: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/26/opinion/coronavirus-colleges-universities.html

Anyone? I'm trying to pull off a 1br apartment if at all possible. I never had my own room as a kid, never lived in my own space one time as an adult thus far. I dream of it.

Bumping this as there haven't been any new posts in sometime and things change!

Hey! Bumping this thread because I'm in the exact opposite situation! The best offer I received was from a department that is more analytically-inclined, although like some other posters I think this distinction is fading. If you think it is not, that's fine, but over the past three decades that seems to be the trend. Many so-called continental philosophers take a considerable interest in Wilfred Sellers, Saul Kripke, Paul Churchland, Patricia Churchland, etc. Many so-called analytic philosophers have looked at Hegel or even Foucault and Deleuze in a different light. The distinction is collapsing under its own weight as it rightfully should, because it's a distinction for nerds. Many continentals feel that there's a counter-productive reflexive anti-modernism and scientific skepticism in their subfield, and many analytics feel that their own subfield has unfairly poo-poo'd 20th century German and French theorists (and perhaps poor translations have contributed to this problem). So, for me, I think attending a more analytically-inclined department couldn't hurt, because I can't see how maintaining an outdated distinction is beneficial. I'm not interested in being a partisan in superficial, clownish, and thoroughly boring academic nitpicking. I'm interested in studying philosophy, not cafeteria lunch table cliques. Additionally, the program will have courses on Foucault and Kant this Fall. Nevertheless, I'd love to hear from anyone else who has had the experience of going from a continental undergrad to an analytic M.A./PhD. For what it's worth, I would like to apply to pluralist departments for my PhD (UC Riverside, Northwestern, etc.).

Thanks, everyone!

apparently, I can't delete posts, but anyway - Accepted into CSU Long Beach with a non-resident tuition waiver and a GAship. Really detailed and informative letter, and the best offer I've received (also the most clear and easy to understand). Anyone have any experience with the school or this program specifically?

Actually, looks like my question was already answered in the affirmative in a previous post. Guess it's really gettin to me.

Is there typically a lag between acceptance and funding offers (TAship, fellowship, GAship, waivers, etc.)? Or is that due to COVID-19? I got into a program and the admissions deadline isn't until May 29th so of course many people haven't even submitted an application yet, but I need to know what the funding offer is before I make any decision!

Well, I set myself up for maximum flexibility so I guess I'm not really going to be screwed, but I'd hate to defer until the Spring term if classes will be online. I'm a bit worried about funding offers, because the emails I've gotten recently have been very brief and short on information. Even if I had to defer, I wouldn't have to worry about negotiating a lease since I'm technically subletting, Also, my position at work is contracted until next Summer and only my immediate supervisors know anything about my grad school plans (and they've kept quiet). Given that a number of my friends have lost work and/or health insurance recently, I feel pretty fortunate.

I think this is the proper forum for this? If not, my apologies! So, as it turns out, none of the schools that I was admitted to are anywhere near where I live. I've only ever made moves that were within a four-hour driving distance, so making multiple trips back and forth over a few months was no big deal. I'm unloading a lot of my possessions, but I do collect records and other band merch and I am a musician - so some of this stuff will be a pain to move! I'm assuming other people have been in a similar situation before. How easy is it to rent a trailer and pack it up? How about shipping large items? Any help is appreciated.

Anyone know anything about the CSU LA area and whether or not grad student housing is a sensible choice? I'm going to have to make my admissions decision and start working on moving ASAP (unless I defer bc of COVID). I'm not used to living in that large of a city and I've always benefited from rock bottom midwest living expenses, so I know it's going to be a bit of an adjustment!

I got it down to 30 pages. I included an abstract of the whole project. Originally, I wanted to use my conclusion, but my friend pointed out that it didn't make any sense as a standalone piece. So, I included the first two sections, but couldn't effectively narrow it down further. In hindsight, I can think of how I might have extracted portions of it into a defense of a much more narrowed down thesis, but I thought at the time that it would be really impressive to have this whole big independent work I had done. By the time it dawned on me, it was too late to really take on a serious editing project.

Yep, I let my letter writers know that for future students' sake. I had to commit to a program before the April 15th deadline, even while knowing that I might accept offers from schools with later deadlines. Had I known, I would've applied earlier and saved everyone some time. Oh well. Anyhow, I'm in at CSU LA now, which is great! They've been on my list since I graduated college. I eyed departments that didn't seem too caught up in the analytic-continental goofballery, and it's quite hard to find any M.A. programs that offer both mainstream anglophone blahblah philosophy and 20th century French material as well. I'm hoping I can virtually sit in on a class or something. Not being able to visit departments really has me nervous. I wrote off the departments that didn't offer something like that - beneath all the fluff and flattery, I want to know what the atmosphere is actually like and information sessions only tell you so much. If anyone here has any experience with CSU LA, please let me know! I did come across some guy in a Facebook group back when I had one and he was extremely enthused about the program, but that's only one person.

Don't decide that your writing sample should be an edited version of your seventy page honors thesis like I did.

Dang, got all n posted in the wrong thread.