NDSEG 2019-2020

[whatdothedatesmean]

Honestly somebody should email Rob again, and play dumb. See if he says they’re gonna release results soon.

[ScienceGeek]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:22 PM, 3st3rb said:

Unless you can count hopefulstudent1997 listed as EE but under the BAA for computing sciences

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For sure, but I'm going by the discipline alone. All of us have different BAA titles within computer and computational sciences 

[petrPCB]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:24 PM, whatdothedatesmean said:

Honestly somebody should email Rob again, and play dumb. See if he says they’re gonna release results soon.

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Let's try not to bother Rob more than we have to. Someone already quoted him saying it'll be today or tomorrow.

[thel]

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people with April updates ended up getting offers/alternates considering that 61/131 of the entries on the sheet have already won some sort of external fellowship/HM.

[cellbiogal]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:22 PM, 3st3rb said:

Unless you can count hopefulstudent1997 listed as EE but under the BAA for computing sciences

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I don't remember where I read this, some other forum from past years I think, but I saw someone applied for one branch/BAA then got handed to another branch/BAA for consideration. So it's possible they're not being evaluated by the same branch they applied for. But my memory is not 100% on this, so take it with a grain of salt.

Edited April 16, 2020 by cellbiogal

[imposterimposter]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:26 PM, petrPCB said:

Let's try not to bother Rob more than we have to. Someone already quoted him saying it'll be today or tomorrow.

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Agreed. This isn't his fault, it's the fault of DoD agencies. Leave the poor guy alone, he has been extremely responsive and seems to be doing his best.

[ScienceGeek]

I definitely believe those who have updates today are the winners. I'm just curious if others without date updates are too haha

[3st3rb]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:25 PM, ScienceGeek said:

For sure, but I'm going by the discipline alone. All of us have different BAA titles within computer and computational sciences 

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Fair. They do admit based on proportion on how many people submitted to the discipline in total. Most of the ARO year in review reports say that anyway. Example.

[Sir Lurks-a-lot]

Do most of the major fellowships give out a second round of awards to fill the few spots that were taken by people that turned them down?

[ScienceGeek]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:28 PM, 3st3rb said:

Fair. They do admit based on proportion on how many people submitted to the discipline in total. Most of the ARO year in review reports say that anyway. Example.

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Ah yes ?

[cellbiogal]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:26 PM, thel said:

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people with April updates ended up getting offers/alternates considering that 61/131 of the entries on the sheet have already won some sort of external fellowship/HM.

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One thing I noticed from previous years is that alternates have a pretty fair chance of receiving the award since a lot of awardees decline in favor of NSF. 

Edited April 16, 2020 by cellbiogal

[thel]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:29 PM, Sir Lurks-a-lot said:

Do most of the major fellowships give out a second round of awards to fill the few spots that were taken by people that turned them down?

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All of the ones I know of have some sort of mechanism like this (mostly because people who are competitve for one fellowship are also competitive for others)

[thel]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:29 PM, cellbiogal said:

One thing I noticed from previous years is that alternates have a pretty fair chance of receiving the award since a lot of awardees decline in favor of NSF. 

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And I imagine that will be worse this year because the DoD has pushed back so far (anyone know the deadline for accepting NSF?)

[somethingsimple]

I didn't apply to NSF so I have no idea what the process is - did they already have to accept or decline the award?

[ScienceGeek]

Does NSF ever give awards to HMs? If those who are offered the award initially turn it down?

[Sir Lurks-a-lot]

[somethingsimple]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:34 PM, ScienceGeek said:

Does NSF ever give awards to HMs? If those who are offered the award initially turn it down?

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I don't know - I do know someone who once got an NSF HM and ended up receiving an award because they made a mistake, so they said.

[ScienceGeek]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:35 PM, somethingsimple said:

I don't know - I do know someone who once got an NSF HM and ended up receiving an award because they made a mistake, so they said.

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woaaaaah, that's wild ?

[thelastlurker]

Long time lurker. Applied for ONR in EE and had a 2/28 and 4/16 update that I added to the google sheet. My best guess is the 4/16 update are the decisions being updated on each profile and that most of us will have a 4/16 update before the end of the day. 

[TrottingAtom]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:32 PM, somethingsimple said:

I didn't apply to NSF so I have no idea what the process is - did they already have to accept or decline the award?

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Deadline to accept/decline NSF is May 7.

[mudphudthrowaway]

  On 4/16/2020 at 4:59 PM, thelastlurker said:

Long time lurker. Applied for ONR in EE and had a 2/28 and 4/16 update that I added to the google sheet. My best guess is the 4/16 update are the decisions being updated on each profile and that most of us will have a 4/16 update before the end of the day. 

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I haven't seen anyone go from december to an april update.

[PopSoc]

ARO still 4/7

[robertac93]

  On 4/16/2020 at 5:14 PM, mudphudthrowaway said:

I haven't seen anyone go from december to an april update.

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The number of 4/16 updates is already high enough that it is above the expected 5% award rate, so he could very well be correct.

[fl1989]

Yeah I am also ARO (bioengineering) still at 4/7

[ScienceGeek]

every email still makes me jump haha