NDSEG 2019-2020

[whatdothedatesmean]

Honestly somebody should email Rob again, and play dumb. See if he says they’re gonna release results soon.

[ScienceGeek]

Just now, 3st3rb said:

Unless you can count hopefulstudent1997 listed as EE but under the BAA for computing sciences

For sure, but I'm going by the discipline alone. All of us have different BAA titles within computer and computational sciences 

[petrPCB]

Just now, whatdothedatesmean said:

Honestly somebody should email Rob again, and play dumb. See if he says they’re gonna release results soon.

Let's try not to bother Rob more than we have to. Someone already quoted him saying it'll be today or tomorrow.

[thel]

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people with April updates ended up getting offers/alternates considering that 61/131 of the entries on the sheet have already won some sort of external fellowship/HM.

[cellbiogal]

3 minutes ago, 3st3rb said:

Unless you can count hopefulstudent1997 listed as EE but under the BAA for computing sciences

I don't remember where I read this, some other forum from past years I think, but I saw someone applied for one branch/BAA then got handed to another branch/BAA for consideration. So it's possible they're not being evaluated by the same branch they applied for. But my memory is not 100% on this, so take it with a grain of salt.

Edited April 16, 2020 by cellbiogal

[imposterimposter]

Just now, petrPCB said:

Let's try not to bother Rob more than we have to. Someone already quoted him saying it'll be today or tomorrow.

Agreed. This isn't his fault, it's the fault of DoD agencies. Leave the poor guy alone, he has been extremely responsive and seems to be doing his best.

[ScienceGeek]

I definitely believe those who have updates today are the winners. I'm just curious if others without date updates are too haha

[3st3rb]

3 minutes ago, ScienceGeek said:

For sure, but I'm going by the discipline alone. All of us have different BAA titles within computer and computational sciences 

Fair. They do admit based on proportion on how many people submitted to the discipline in total. Most of the ARO year in review reports say that anyway. Example.

[Sir Lurks-a-lot]

Do most of the major fellowships give out a second round of awards to fill the few spots that were taken by people that turned them down?

[ScienceGeek]

Just now, 3st3rb said:

Fair. They do admit based on proportion on how many people submitted to the discipline in total. Most of the ARO year in review reports say that anyway. Example.

Ah yes ?

[cellbiogal]

1 minute ago, thel said:

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people with April updates ended up getting offers/alternates considering that 61/131 of the entries on the sheet have already won some sort of external fellowship/HM.

One thing I noticed from previous years is that alternates have a pretty fair chance of receiving the award since a lot of awardees decline in favor of NSF. 

Edited April 16, 2020 by cellbiogal

[thel]

Just now, Sir Lurks-a-lot said:

Do most of the major fellowships give out a second round of awards to fill the few spots that were taken by people that turned them down?

All of the ones I know of have some sort of mechanism like this (mostly because people who are competitve for one fellowship are also competitive for others)

[thel]

Just now, cellbiogal said:

One thing I noticed from previous years is that alternates have a pretty fair chance of receiving the award since a lot of awardees decline in favor of NSF. 

And I imagine that will be worse this year because the DoD has pushed back so far (anyone know the deadline for accepting NSF?)

[somethingsimple]

I didn't apply to NSF so I have no idea what the process is - did they already have to accept or decline the award?

[ScienceGeek]

Does NSF ever give awards to HMs? If those who are offered the award initially turn it down?

[Sir Lurks-a-lot]

[somethingsimple]

Just now, ScienceGeek said:

Does NSF ever give awards to HMs? If those who are offered the award initially turn it down?

I don't know - I do know someone who once got an NSF HM and ended up receiving an award because they made a mistake, so they said.

[ScienceGeek]

Just now, somethingsimple said:

I don't know - I do know someone who once got an NSF HM and ended up receiving an award because they made a mistake, so they said.

woaaaaah, that's wild ?

[thelastlurker]

Long time lurker. Applied for ONR in EE and had a 2/28 and 4/16 update that I added to the google sheet. My best guess is the 4/16 update are the decisions being updated on each profile and that most of us will have a 4/16 update before the end of the day. 

[TrottingAtom]

33 minutes ago, somethingsimple said:

I didn't apply to NSF so I have no idea what the process is - did they already have to accept or decline the award?

Deadline to accept/decline NSF is May 7.

[mudphudthrowaway]

13 minutes ago, thelastlurker said:

Long time lurker. Applied for ONR in EE and had a 2/28 and 4/16 update that I added to the google sheet. My best guess is the 4/16 update are the decisions being updated on each profile and that most of us will have a 4/16 update before the end of the day. 

I haven't seen anyone go from december to an april update.

[PopSoc]

ARO still 4/7

[robertac93]

Just now, mudphudthrowaway said:

I haven't seen anyone go from december to an april update.

The number of 4/16 updates is already high enough that it is above the expected 5% award rate, so he could very well be correct.

[fl1989]

Yeah I am also ARO (bioengineering) still at 4/7

[ScienceGeek]

every email still makes me jump haha