Tobybyby Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 15 hours ago, Endzone98 said: Thanks! Hey, I sent my main application out quite early, but the transcripts, letter of reference and letter of intent was not fully submitted until a few days before the deadline! so i guess my full application wasn't done till a few days before! I'm not sure if this is considered early? Also did not receive any scholarship info so it could be they are rolling out stuff on the fly? Hope you hear back soon tho with good news! Have you applied to any other schools btw? My funding was included with my acceptance but I think if you had above an 8.0 admission average you’ll receive the funding but less than that you won’t receive any. It also may just be taking a couple days so maybe wait it out and then email? I don’t think it’s passive to ask about funding because it’s a really important part of your decision.
Endzone98 Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tobybyby said: My funding was included with my acceptance but I think if you had above an 8.0 admission average you’ll receive the funding but less than that you won’t receive any. It also may just be taking a couple days so maybe wait it out and then email? I don’t think it’s passive to ask about funding because it’s a really important part of your decision. Okay! thank you! I was wondering if you had any information about GSPIA vs Munk! So confused as to which school provides better job employment, connections, reputation, and program rating!
markenneman Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/12/2020 at 7:48 PM, irnerd said: nice to see someone also from u of t's ir program on here! Solidarity Comrade
Potter445 Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 Hey everyone! I'm glad to have found an active forum on NPSIA, because none of the old forums seem to address a question I've been looking to resolve ? From what I've read, a lot of students believe that the co-op opportunities at NPSIA open doors to the Public Service (Global Affairs in particular), but there is little mention of other sorts of work it offers. Personally, I'm not really interested in working for the Federal Government -- my dream is to work for an international organization, either in an NGO or within an intergovernmental context. So I'm wondering if anyone has any insight as to the sort of international work placements NPSIA has to offer (if any at all)? Thank in advance!
Endzone98 Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Potter445 said: Hey everyone! I'm glad to have found an active forum on NPSIA, because none of the old forums seem to address a question I've been looking to resolve ? From what I've read, a lot of students believe that the co-op opportunities at NPSIA open doors to the Public Service (Global Affairs in particular), but there is little mention of other sorts of work it offers. Personally, I'm not really interested in working for the Federal Government -- my dream is to work for an international organization, either in an NGO or within an intergovernmental context. So I'm wondering if anyone has any insight as to the sort of international work placements NPSIA has to offer (if any at all)? Thank in advance! Hey! I've read into some of the older posts and some posts external to this website and found that many of the graduates find themselves working in public service and federal government. That being said there appears to be in each school a slight minority that peruse other routes such as NGOs, international organizations etc. NPSIA is a well recognized program and ranks 36 in the world according to foreign policy magazine, but I do think it has a specific orientation that pushes students in their co-op and post grad life towards the public service. Looking at statistics extracted from the University of Toronto Munk School of Global Affairs, it seems that there is a 15% or so graduate ratio which go on to international organizations. They offer a unique internship program which allows students to work in an embassy, international organization, private business, or public service. It appears to offer a stronger avenue (in my opinion) than NPSIA. The University of Ottawa Graduate School of Public and International Affairs from what i have read at this forum suggests that it builds a strong pathway towards international organizations. There is an embassy internship program there as well, and a bit more of a well connected and networked links to organizations such as WHO, UN, and others. The video they offer as well in their recruitment pitch also suggests that they value their international connections more than perhaps NPSIA. Now this is all my view! I think NPSIA will allow you to enter any stream you wish, but I personally am leaning towards either uottawa (accepted) or Munk (goal). I think all three schools mentioned in this post are prestigious, and it is a matter of personal preference as well! Best of luck!
Potter445 Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 Thanks a lot! that was pretty illuminating. I was 100% sure I was going into NPSIA but it seems I have to consider my options a bit more. I'm looking into the international opportunities at uOttawa right now, and though I've heard they are really competitive, I wasn't expecting the exchange program to admit only 4 students per place per term...and I'm guessing the co-op program is even more competitive. Last thing I'd want is to leave after 2 years without work or international experience. Hmm...tough decision
ah_097 Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 How long should my application be in "Preliminary review required" stage? My references uploaded their letters on 31 January, so I know I'm probably towards the bottom of the list. Just hoping to get a rough idea of when I can expect my status to move for NPSIA.
Endzone98 Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Potter445 said: Thanks a lot! that was pretty illuminating. I was 100% sure I was going into NPSIA but it seems I have to consider my options a bit more. I'm looking into the international opportunities at uOttawa right now, and though I've heard they are really competitive, I wasn't expecting the exchange program to admit only 4 students per place per term...and I'm guessing the co-op program is even more competitive. Last thing I'd want is to leave after 2 years without work or international experience. Hmm...tough decision Yess! I have heard they are both tough! I think personally that the Co-op seems more reasonable for uottawa taking the top 20-25% of the class. The embassy program I'm not 100% sure on but I do think it provides unique gateways if you work hard! Personally, in terms of security i think U of Ts is the best because its mandatory internship. On the flip side it is a four month internship whereas both NPSIA and Uottawa are 8 months. So it really comes down to personal preference. For me I am currently addmitted to uottawa but if Munk accepts me I will most likely accept! Really wish there was a Munk MGA group for hopefuls btw cause im mad stressed lmaoo!
Endzone98 Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, Potter445 said: Thanks a lot! that was pretty illuminating. I was 100% sure I was going into NPSIA but it seems I have to consider my options a bit more. I'm looking into the international opportunities at uOttawa right now, and though I've heard they are really competitive, I wasn't expecting the exchange program to admit only 4 students per place per term...and I'm guessing the co-op program is even more competitive. Last thing I'd want is to leave after 2 years without work or international experience. Hmm...tough decision For the exchange program tho also look at the fact that many students if not the bare majority prefer to work for government in Canada or other public service jobs. i don't know how big the class will be at GSPIA, but you will have a fair chance for sure at your dream international internship for sure! Also, getting into any of these three grad schools is a big stepping stone into the international sphere! I am sure you will make the right choice my friend!
theGoodGhosts Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, ah_097 said: How long should my application be in "Preliminary review required" stage? My references uploaded their letters on 31 January, so I know I'm probably towards the bottom of the list. Just hoping to get a rough idea of when I can expect my status to move for NPSIA. I submitted my application on Jan 24, and the status changed from "Preliminary review required" to "review in progress" and then on to "recommended for assessment" on Feb 6. But I think you're right... the later the application was submitted, the longer it'll likely take for them to get to it, as I have a feeling a lot of people finalized their submissions on the 31st. Edited February 18, 2020 by theGoodGhosts
ah_097 Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, theGoodGhosts said: I submitted my application on Jan 24, and the status changed from "Preliminary review required" to "review in progress" and then on to "recommended for assessment" on Feb 6. Thanks! Just refreshed the page and my application is now "Review in progress by department"
Lb1196 Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 6 hours ago, ah_097 said: Thanks! Just refreshed the page and my application is now "Review in progress by department" Super jealous haha. I’ve been recommended for assessment for about a month ?
Hawkmoon Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 17 hours ago, theGoodGhosts said: I submitted my application on Jan 24, and the status changed from "Preliminary review required" to "review in progress" and then on to "recommended for assessment" on Feb 6. But I think you're right... the later the application was submitted, the longer it'll likely take for them to get to it, as I have a feeling a lot of people finalized their submissions on the 31st. My last reference submitted on the 12th of Jan so I guess I'm in the middle of the pack. Which isn't so bad as quite often the first round has a good chance at funding... so I've heard. Which along with 2.50 will get you a cup of coffee... lol 16 hours ago, ah_097 said: Thanks! Just refreshed the page and my application is now "Review in progress by department" Excellent! Yours is moving quickly! I'm still stuck on the "recommended for assessment".... ?
Hawkmoon Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 Well, looking forward to when we all get into out respective programs.. :-) Who here is considering the thesis route or the research paper? I'm leaning more towards the paper as it doesn't get "defended before a formal thesis board" However my wife is trying to persuade me that the thesis option is a better way to go. I prefer to be in the background and do research but that's just me...
ah_097 Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hawkmoon said: Well, looking forward to when we all get into out respective programs.. ? Who here is considering the thesis route or the research paper? I'm leaning more towards the paper as it doesn't get "defended before a formal thesis board" However my wife is trying to persuade me that the thesis option is a better way to go. I prefer to be in the background and do research but that's just me... I just started looking into this yesterday. I would like to do the thesis route to keep the PhD avenue open (although, being honest that route seems like a longshot) ... I'm just trying to determine whether I'll be able to manage doing a thesis while also working full-time in government (I don't want to scale back to part-time work, part-time school). Hawkmoon 1
Hawkmoon Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, ah_097 said: I just started looking into this yesterday. I would like to do the thesis route to keep the PhD avenue open (although, being honest that route seems like a longshot) ... I'm just trying to determine whether I'll be able to manage doing a thesis while also working full-time in government (I don't want to scale back to part-time work, part-time school). That is a difficult position to be in.... A full time job and doing a masters program will keep you busy... lol Found this guide from Carleton while looking for ideas: https://carleton.ca/polisci/graduate/ma-program/masters-thesis-and-essay-guidelines/ Check out the last paragraph for the research paper option! For me I'm probably stopping at the Masters. While I would like to, I'm little to old to be doing a PhD option honestly. The need for a full time job out weighs the PhD...
theGoodGhosts Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, ah_097 said: I just started looking into this yesterday. I would like to do the thesis route to keep the PhD avenue open (although, being honest that route seems like a longshot) ... I'm just trying to determine whether I'll be able to manage doing a thesis while also working full-time in government (I don't want to scale back to part-time work, part-time school). I figure I'll drop to part-time work at my gov't job, full-time school if I get in. I'm doing both full-time right now, and it's just a bit too much. I'm in an indeterminate position, so I definitely don't want to quit outright. FWIW, doing a research paper instead of an MA isn't likely to be a big impediment for doing a PhD further down the road (at least, that's what the NPSIA MA director told me...)
theGoodGhosts Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hawkmoon said: That is a difficult position to be in.... A full time job and doing a masters program will keep you busy... lol Found this guide from Carleton while looking for ideas: https://carleton.ca/polisci/graduate/ma-program/masters-thesis-and-essay-guidelines/ Check out the last paragraph for the research paper option! For me I'm probably stopping at the Masters. While I would like to, I'm little to old to be doing a PhD option honestly. The need for a full time job out weighs the PhD... The NPSIA thesis guidelines look a little different: https://carleton.ca/npsia/wp-content/uploads/degree-by-research-essay-2017.pdf For instance, it shows thesis length as 100-160 pages, rather than the 80-100 in the PoliSci program. That said, it's possible that the document I linked is out of date now, given that it's from 2017. EDIT: This page is a pretty solid resource: https://carleton.ca/npsia/current-students-2/current-ma-ma-jd-students/guidelines-and-forms/ Edited February 19, 2020 by theGoodGhosts Hawkmoon 1
ah_097 Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hawkmoon said: That is a difficult position to be in.... A full time job and doing a masters program will keep you busy... lol Found this guide from Carleton while looking for ideas: https://carleton.ca/polisci/graduate/ma-program/masters-thesis-and-essay-guidelines/ Check out the last paragraph for the research paper option! For me I'm probably stopping at the Masters. While I would like to, I'm little to old to be doing a PhD option honestly. The need for a full time job out weighs the PhD... Interesting! I'll definitely have to think about it more, but it does sound (from the Carleton website), like the research paper could be worthwhile and still make me eligible for a PhD! Hawkmoon 1
Hawkmoon Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, theGoodGhosts said: The NPSIA thesis guidelines look a little different: https://carleton.ca/npsia/wp-content/uploads/degree-by-research-essay-2017.pdf For instance, it shows thesis length as 100-160 pages, rather than the 80-100 in the PoliSci program. That said, it's possible that the document I linked is out of date now, given that it's from 2017. EDIT: This page is a pretty solid resource: https://carleton.ca/npsia/current-students-2/current-ma-ma-jd-students/guidelines-and-forms/ No I think you might be right. Even tho it's from 2017, the requirements should't have changed that much. The pdf states the research paper is 50-80 pages which is fairly close... Good find thanks! https://carleton.ca/npsia/wp-content/uploads/degree-by-research-essay-2017.pdf
theGoodGhosts Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 Ooh, and this document weighs the benefits of the coursework, research paper, and thesis options: https://carleton.ca/npsia/wp-content/uploads/program-comp-guide-19.pdf
Hawkmoon Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, theGoodGhosts said: Ooh, and this document weighs the benefits of the coursework, research paper, and thesis options: https://carleton.ca/npsia/wp-content/uploads/program-comp-guide-19.pdf Yeah just reading that one myself... lol
Hawkmoon Posted February 19, 2020 Posted February 19, 2020 Looks like they are pushing the coursework option...
Hawkmoon Posted February 20, 2020 Posted February 20, 2020 What streams was everyone looking at getting into? I'm hoping for the Intelligence/IA or Security and Defence Policy streams.
theGoodGhosts Posted February 20, 2020 Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Hawkmoon said: What streams was everyone looking at getting into? I'm hoping for the Intelligence/IA or Security and Defence Policy streams. Same here! Hawkmoon 1
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