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  1. Due to our moron-in-chief, our new incoming student (who we knew previously from work with our lab) is probably trapped in her country and may have to wait a full year to start. It's all political; Tr*mp wants to force schools to open, forcing the economy back on track at the expense of American (and international) lives. If you can, please VOTE.
  2. My thoughts: -GPA is fine, definitely keep doing well in your last two years -Keep pushing on getting posters/talks from these research experiences; a paper would be even better. -Awesome about TAing and R! R is FAR superior to SPSS, so keep working on that. -Right now: use that data from your team to start writing that paper and definitely study for the GRE/psych GRE.
  3. True, but just because a school is not requiring the GRE does not mean explicitly that POI's will not care. Some POIs, as dumb as it is, really care about GRE scores and use them to differentiate between some applicants. Unless schools have stated explicitly that no POIs will examine GRE scores, I will treat this with a grain of salt.
  4. The consensus I have heard is a safe score is 320 total; of course, closer to 160/160+ is better. It's not always a direct cutoff, but that's a good score.
  5. A little confused by this post. So you want to study this concept more in graduate school? The reason I’m confused is this is not a novel concept. All emotions can be adaptive; the definition of an emotional disorder implies that the emotions, which were once helpful to us in some way, have become aversive experiences and are impairing some aspect of daily life. The emotional disorders can be caused by distressing events, but are not always tied to a precipitating event. Most clinical psychologists agree about this, so what exactly interests you about this perspective (or am I missing something)?
  6. More of a random comment, but do you have $$$ to spend on application fees? It may make sense to consider which path you think will best fit your future career needs and apply to schools with that degree (e.g., maybe a mixture of PhD/PsyD at different schools, or just MSW). If you want to be a psychotherapist and not do research or cognitive assessments, you are probably fine to do a MSW and get licensed in your states. Saves you $$$ in other years PsyDs require and saves you time, as the road to being a practicing clinician is quicker. Being called "Dr" for the mountains of debt that an unfunded PsyD or PhD program can bring is probably not worth it in most instances; funded PhD (or the few PsyD) are ideal.
  7. 1. Do APA accredited programs or bust if you apply. Future you will thank you when you can actually get licensed and practice. I agree with the above poster that funded programs are competitive, but even better. 2. Why the Certified nursing thing and psychology? Doesn’t make a ton of sense to me. It would be more beneficial to your application to get a paid research position and try to publish some papers, ideally. That will go a lot longer of a way than a volunteer crisis line. 3. Google and read through Mitch’s guide to applying to clinical psych programs. Typing this on my phone or else I’d link it here. It’s a pretty good guide that will answer a lot of your questions.
  8. I think the fact that I, like @Psyche007, and probably others are getting a negative tone from this post is just a point of awareness I think we wish to helpfully raise about how things *might* come off. I wanted to echo this because I think it’s an important point that got driven off course by other posters. My two cents: if your current career isn’t going t substantially change by pursuing a PhD, why spend 4-5+ years of your life pursuing one? Will it change your earnings potential at all; if you are already established and writing, will “PhD” at the end of your title really change things? These are actually valid questions I’m curious about. There are programs that probably would take you on with no mentor, let you do your own thing, etc., but for what it’s worth these institutions are probably not viewed as legitimate by most academics. If academics aren’t your audience for your books, though, I doubt the general public will been keen enough to investigate your exact credentials. Tl;dr: why spend your own money unless it’s really going to change things financially for you?
  9. Not sure about NYU specifically, but from the online MSW programs I am aware of you often do not need to be in the same state/city as the university, as the university has staff that work with your area to put you in clinical practica. Of course, if you live in bum F nowhere, you might have a hard time. I would also say that wherever you start this two year program, you want to make sure you will stay there for two years. Other important factors include licensing requirements for master's level providers in states you wish to reside (it sounds like you want to reside in NYC, so look into mental health counselor requirements for the state). Some online programs have better reputations than others, but fundamentally all online programs are cash-cows for universities, so I would advise you to be aware of this and make sure that you have access to good in-person training opportunities if clinical work is your long term goal.
  10. You are free to disagree and, again, I don't think it's a requirement, but I would not underplay the importance of research products. I, too, did not have published papers (several posters and awards) when I got into my clinical phd, but it helped that I had two papers in revision that got published shortly after starting. Technical skills in research are extremely important, as is the research match, but I think the icing on the cake (but not 100% needed) is showing that you have experience to push things across the finish line. I agree with your points, too, that are important about narrowing down your research scope. I know a lot of people start off really broad in the hope of being of value to more PIs, but this can actually backfire pretty easily.
  11. I think generally this is a nice/accurate reflection, but from my understanding only parts of these apply to social and don't apply to other areas (e.g., clinical). For example, in an increasingly competitive pool of applicants, pubs/posters do matter (they are not a guarantee of acceptance and not going to sink you if you don't have them, but they are a huge pro). Similarly, in clinical programs, the interviews should be enjoyable, but interviews should be viewed formally and treated with a healthy degree of stress. I can think of several students that have interviewed for our program that have made bad impressions for being too informal with current students or faculty. Again, I think this list is nice and helpful, but I wanted to chime in about this not necessarily generalizing to all areas of psych.
  12. If you’re in the fortunate position to have even a mild amount of family wealth, I would invest it elsewhere. Long-term dividends (aside from the emotional joy of getting more education) probably aren’t great for the cost associated with unfounded PsyD programs. If you just want to do therapy (no research, no assessment), MSW route probably makes more sense for the aforementioned reasons. You can also save up the money that might be coming your way or work with your family to do something that might be useful with the funds (e.g., self-funded retirement accounts, down payment on a first home).
  13. What is a "non-traditional" lab? Do you mean a small lab with few staff or students? I am confused. In my experience as a PhD student, I am noting in my practica at well-known sites in a major metropolitan area that there is a good amount of PsyDs as postdocs and staff. It's not that all PhD students are "great," but there is a higher bar usually to get into funded PhD programs (and funded PsyD -- Rutgers and Baylor), so the people I notice who have these coveted postdoc positions and jobs are people who clearly push themselves to do more research/present/publish/get grants more than I think is required by most PsyD programs. If you are required to take out massive, life-changing student loans I would suggest you do not attend the PsyD program if you can wait a year and strengthen your application before re-applying. The typical earnings of psychologists (even specialists, like neuropsychologists) does not justify the debt. I know several psychologists who are or will be paying off student loans well beyond typical retirement age.
  14. They mean that you want to present work you do in undergrad in your research lab at conferences and publish, if possible, in respectable peer-reviewed journals. (Research is not a class - it’s an experience in which you help a professor with their lab on some project.)
  15. Agreed. Speculating about this situation now does no good. Stay in close touch with your mentor and program over the coming months. This situation is rapidly evolving, and while it certainly will get worse before it gets better, it may also blow over by the summer. Only time will tell...
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