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Hi! I actually know a lot about the Georgia State program if you have any questions. Their MFA program is fully-funded and offers additional stipends through assistantships. It's also very interdisciplinary and a collaborative environment. 

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Just fyi to everyone, SAIC is interdisciplinary. They give 1 full ride per department, apply to all departments no matter your primary discipline. You can take any teacher you want from the whole school for advisors, its a pretty open program.

 

I recommend applying to these departments even if its not your "primary" discipline:

Ceramics

Writing

Photo/Digital

Painting

Sculpture

Printmaking

 

 

Good Luck

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5 hours ago, Amensalism said:

Hello,

I have been hit by the freak out bug. Was wondering if anyone is just going to skip this year and apply for next year? seems pretty late to start applications and bug my teachers for references now.

For me, it would depend on what my other options were. Nothing much else going on in 2020? Then I’d be lighting a fire under my butt to get the applications in. A month-plus is still plenty of time to get your applications ready anyway. 

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Hey y'all, just found this thread, can't wait for the next portion of the freak out. 

I work across a lot of disciplines, but I applied for Sculpture programs. If anyone has questions on University of Minnesota or Tulane, I can answer most. 

I applied to: OSU, VCU, Temple, Rutgers, UGA, UT Austin, and UC Irvine. 

Website: KeithMichealMurphy.com

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1 hour ago, hinata said:

interview with OSU on Wednesday!

Awesome. Good luck!! Just wrapping up my applications now. All rolling admission but Jacksonville has a priority date of January 31st. 

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8 hours ago, hinata said:

interview with OSU on Wednesday!

A professor just asked me as well (for printmaking), but that was so fast I assumed it was for clarity on my application or something. Hearing that you got one as well makes me real excited. 

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20 hours ago, Rtwoneday said:

A professor just asked me as well (for printmaking), but that was so fast I assumed it was for clarity on my application or something. Hearing that you got one as well makes me real excited. 

My friend is getting his MFA at OSU for printmaking. He said that Sergio is the only professor in that department and barely interviewed him for the program. So hopefully it'll be easy for you too!

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On 12/29/2019 at 1:20 PM, Rtwoneday said:

Hey y'all, just found this thread, can't wait for the next portion of the freak out. 

I work across a lot of disciplines, but I applied for Sculpture programs. If anyone has questions on University of Minnesota or Tulane, I can answer most. 

I applied to: OSU, VCU, Temple, Rutgers, UGA, UT Austin, and UC Irvine. 

Website: KeithMichealMurphy.com

I see you applied to Temple and Rutgers. I know UDel (University of Delaware) is in the area, and all of their MFA students are fully funded with stipends. Maybe worth consideration? 

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2 hours ago, SpillToBuilt said:

I see you applied to Temple and Rutgers. I know UDel (University of Delaware) is in the area, and all of their MFA students are fully funded with stipends. Maybe worth consideration? 

God the idea of another application is overwhelming, but thank you, it's absolutely worth checking out. 

On 1/7/2020 at 3:04 PM, hinata said:

My friend is getting his MFA at OSU for printmaking. He said that Sergio is the only professor in that department and barely interviewed him for the program. So hopefully it'll be easy for you too!

Yeah, I think you said you had your interview already too, but it was very casual, very chill, only asked me about 3 questions. 20 minute interview. 

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On 12/13/2019 at 8:09 PM, Vlad the INpainter said:

Hi again, just saw this reddit post on r/gradschool that answers my question. Though I would repost here because there is a lot of, unusual, information on it.

To help those of you in application season: here is a frank list of MFA Fine Art degrees ranked by tuition and semi-informed opinion

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Putting together some first-hand information gathered through the years on MFA in Fine Art programs in the US (in order of tuition expense, otherwise unscientific methods.)

University of Texas School of Art, Austin, MFA Fine Art, Austin, Texas. https://art.utexas.edu/graduate/studio-art Flagship state school means great resources and low tuition. Excellent student body, drawing particularly from the region due to cheap cost of attendance for Texas residents. Excellent facilities, and accomplished international faculty. Overall focus of department is pretty mainstream, not super innovative, but not overly conservative either. Very fun, big university campus in a great little city filled with fantastic food. Austin is pretty chill, but Texas is a very extreme state - the Saudi Arabia of the US - with very problematic politics, so if you are different in any way, not even Austin is safe. Weather is almost perfect, just a little too hot in summer, but moderate year around. The location is far from other centers, isolated, and limited in culture generally. Cheap tuition (particularly if you live in Texas) with TA and scholarship possibilities. Currently: $12,000 for Texas residents and $22,957 for out-of-state students.

University of Michigan Stamps School of Art and Design, Ann Arbor, MI, MFA in Art https://stamps.umich.edu/graduate-programs/mfaFlagship state school means great resources and low tuition. Emphasis on technically accomplished but conservative work from faculty, and thus students: art as glossy and unchallenging appeals to mainstream culture. If you wish to join this track, then here it is. Michigan is very pretty, winters are brutal, and Ann Arbor is a great little city, if you can avoid the endless tailgating and profoundly annoying Go Blue garbage. Detroit is not far, but not convenient for close contact with the growing art scene there. Cheap tuition (particularly if you live in Michigan) with TA and scholarship possibilities. Currently: $12,000 for Michigan residents and $24,591 for out-of-state students.

Virginia Commonwealth University School of Art, MFA Fine Art, Richmond, Virginia. https://arts.vcu.edu/programs/graduate/Extraordinary art department housed in a mediocre public university in a somewhat reasonable little city in the northernmost deep south. This department has resources, connections, and a mildly radical reputation. Art faculty are very well connected professionally, and alumni are visible across the artworld. General atmosphere of production is high degree of experimentation and mildly political. Like many schools, the department and degrees are divided by fairly conservative media traditions, painting, sculpture, photo, etc, rather than anything post-media, post-studio, or interdisciplinary. (This is a pity because most artists work across several disciplines these days.) This department is well-supported, well-funded and beloved, a particular achievement for a public school. Students are highly supported by nurturing faculty. Isolated little region, but not too far from DC. Richmond itself is building a Portland/Brooklyn-like reputation with craft stuff, etc, but still mostly a de-industrialized southern capital city with an ok quality of life overall. Scholarship and TA opportunities, and a reasonable tuition rate. The MFA in sculpture is currently fully funded. Currently: Virginia residents: $12,134 out of state: $24,741

University of Tennessee, Knoxville, MFA Studio Art, Knoxville, Tennessee https://art.utk.edu/mfa/A solid, growing department in a well-funded but underperforming state school. This department has decent resources, brand new facilities, and are hiring new faculty, so is is one to watch. General atmosphere of production is craft-based, reclusive studio productions. Like many schools, the department and degrees are divided by fairly conservative media traditions, painting, sculpture, photo, etc, rather than anything post-media, post-studio, or interdisciplinary. This department is well-ranked on several lists, well-supported, well-funded and growing in reputation, a particular achievement for a US public school. Students are supported by nurturing faculty who are not art stars, but have solid careers. Knoxville is an isolated little region in a deeply conservative state, next to the Smoky Mountains, a day drive from DC, Atlanta, Memphis, St Louis, etc. Knoxville is a mostly de-industrialized, southern regional city with a mild climate, and an ok quality of life overall. Scholarship and TA opportunities, and a reasonable tuition rate. Currently: Tennessee residents: $12,724 out of state: $31,144

University of Oregon, MFA Fine Arts, Eugene, Oregon https://artdesign.uoregon.edu/art/grad/mfaA solid, growing department in a well-funded and growing state school. This department has decent resources, and generous facilities. Interdisciplinary emphasis, supported by practicing artists. Students are supported by nurturing faculty who are not art stars, but have solid careers. Eugene is a funny little former hippy town of people who have been coming here to drop out for a century, but it became hipster crafty like Portland. Scholarship and TA opportunities, and a reasonable tuition rate. Big funding available, some spots fully funded. Currently: Oregon residents: $16,659 out of state: $28,161

UCLA MFA Fine Art, Los Angeles, California. https://www.sca.ucla.edu/graduate/index.htmlUC system is Ivy League quality (of endowment anyway) and high degree of resources, resulting notable research, but in a public school. Excellent student body, drawing particularly from the state due to discount for California residents. Excellent facilities, and accomplished international faculty with a few youngish up-and-coming artists. Weather is LA perfect, that is, too hot and smoggy mostly, but blue skies. LA is one of the world’s art powerhouses along with NY, London, Berlin, and Beijing in terms of galleries, museums, audience and artists. This means that any recognition will be amplified to distortion levels. UCLA used to be cheap, 11k a few years ago, but it has increased quickly. TA and scholarship possibilities. Currently: $17,272 for California residents and $32,374 for out-of-state students.

Pacific Northwest College of Art Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies. MFA Visual Studies. Portland, Oregon https://pnca.edu/academics/graduate/vsUrban campus setting with great studios, and fantastic facilities. Motivated students who prefer alternatives to the NY-LA vortex. Strong visiting faculty, committed department heads, and mentor-based teaching that is very student-centric. This is an interdisciplinary degree of study, students choose to work across media. Notable is MFA is in Visual Studies and includes a written thesis, emphasis on content, and opportunity for dual major in Critical Studies leading to both an MA and an MFA. Oregon is absolutely stunning, with the windy coast and volcanic mountain ranges an hour drive from the city. It rains a lot, but in fact has less precipitation than some cities in the East coast. Portland has great food, is cheaper and less busy than other big cities, but has enough on offer to keep anyone busy for years. This is an up-and-coming school and degree program, gaining in reputation and prestige of the faculty, and starting to see alumni turn up in shows around the world. Students come from a range of backgrounds, but the common feeling is the willingness to create new tracks to success off the beaten paths. There are TA possibilities, and generous funding available for accepted students, but not fully-funded. Currently $34,279 per year

Cranbrook School of Art, MFA Fine Art. Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. https://cranbrookart.edu/departments/Storied history of US modernism in gorgeous campus setting. Great studios, and fantastic facilities. Very highly motivated students who go on to professional activities. Strong visiting faculty, and committed department heads. Like many schools, the department and degrees are divided by fairly conservative media traditions, painting, sculpture, photo, etc, rather than anything post-media, post-studio, or interdisciplinary. (This is a pity because most artists work across several disciplines these days.) Student results are highly accomplished, but perhaps because of the price-tag and lack of funding opportunities, the emphasis is on conservative and obviously “nice” art. Has been financially unstable for a few years, long-term faculty in other departments have been leaving. Potential for more cuts and instability that will affect educational experience. Inconvenient distance from nearest major city, Detroit, very boring and inactive, car-centric, suburban setting (a cloistered existence). Michigan has 4 distinct seasons, winter is too long, and summer is humid. Low risk for extreme weather events. Very expensive, not many scholarship opportunities. No TA possibility since only grad school. Currently $37,828 per year

Yale School of Art, MFA Fine Art, New Haven Connecticut https://www.art.yale.edu/aboutIts the ivy league, so this is privilege and power. New Haven is sort of sweet when you get to know it, but actually terrible when you stop and think about the weather, expense and depressing conditions of living. "Cohesive, investigative body of work" and an overall conceptual practice is emphasized, appealing to the top cultural sectors of the US and the world. Graduates have direct access to power in the form of top curators and galleries. Great facilities, and access to top resources across Yale. Top practitioners pass through, and highly accomplished artists as teachers. Downside to having successful artists as teachers as that they are usually too busy and self-occupied to teach much. Very connected to New York City via high-end professional tracks, although the commute is tedious. Very, very motivated students, but also demonstrating ugly entitlement that does not always match student abilities. Furthermore, even at the top, the funnel into conventional art career success is defined by scarcity, thus the majority of students even here at Yale are guaranteed failure (of the conventional career variety). The kicker and reason why people hustle to get in at Yale is the 5%-10% who win the artworld lottery, and make it big, unlike most other schools where the percentage is more like .01% or less. Extraordinarily expensive, but this rich school can hand out grants. Great if you can get in, and get funding, and win the lottery. Currently: $43,230 per year

CalArts, MFA Fine Art, Santa Clarita California https://art.calarts.edu/programs/art/mfaThis school, founded by Disney, has been connected to LA money since the beginning. It has a sky-high reputation, but the reality is somewhat less ideal with an absurd cost of tuition with negligible comparative results. The facilities are good, but not the best, even some state schools are better equipped. Faculty are shooting stars (how many burn out?). CalArts has made an obvious effort to hire a younger, more politically engaged, more diverse faculty. This should have the result of improving the relations with students, but since most students are among the most privileged in the world, there is a strange and slightly hostile disconnect between the newish faculty and the students. Nevertheless, students enter an extremely competitive environment, that claims to be meritocratic, but students are accepted into the art world power system via more privilege, and somewhat arbitrary trends. (Percentage of success vs failure situation is similar to Yale). Santa Clarita is a nasty little exit off the highway in the lost hills above LA. Traffic is hell on earth, but the recently functional train is functional if you are going somewhere near the stops. Weather is perfect except when there are fires burning in all directions. Outrageously, Prince of Monaco expensive. Currently $50,850

RISD, MFA Fine Art, Providence Rhode Island. https://www.risd.edu/academics/graduate-study/ This is the top ranked, and obviously a good choice, but only for certain people. Hard to get in, expensive, emphasizing making over thinking, direct paths into the art system (Whitney curators drop in, etc.) Skills are emphasized. Top facilities, studios, and faculty. Providence is cute, lots of flowing water and colonial era buildings, but also bleak, far too expensive, and cold (weather and people). Can actually walk around the city if you can afford to live somewhere in the center. There are some scholarship and TA possibilities, but cannot offset the absolutely stratospheric tuition costs. Currently: $50,960 per year

Hey I go to Cranbrook and I can tell you much of the info you have on them is incorrect; they don't have the cross-disciplinary tag slapped on the surface, but they highly encourage it. I'm an oddball in the sculpture department right now, there are three to four other candidates that are not strictly sculptors in the major-- many people in each program do not strictly do the thing that their department offers-- rather the department offers the discourse surrounding the practice and adds to it. The program also features a sort of "minor" department feature where you can sit in on any critique are deeply encouraged to share different ways of making and it has been the case for many many years. And while you do state some concerns with the shifting faculty-- much of the mainstay faculty were in the same pocket and were recommended by those that left and keep up the same mentality of their predecessors. 

There are many facilities that each department gets access to and there are breadth of research opportunities and they will help you along with any academic opportunities you need: be it applications to residencies, collectors in Detriot and gallery representation. Cranbrook is very deeply well connected and while we may not immediately be able to offer scholarships they have events where they sell student work en masse to fund the department and the students practice. I should also point out that while it is a bit cloistered the departments do make a huge effort to travel and get everyone off campus with numerous trips to other countries and cities.

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21 hours ago, cixelated said:

Hey I go to Cranbrook and I can tell you much of the info you have on them is incorrect ...

Hey, I am at VCU right now. this forum was helpful to me when I was applying, so I am checking in to see how everyone's freak out is going!

Hey, Cixelated, yeah, Cranbrook is an awesome school. Of the schools I was accepted to, it was one of the hardest ones for me to turn down. I lived in Detroit for several years, I know several Cranbrook alums really well. It's great to hear you are having such a good experience there. I'd love to see what you're doing. Shoot me a message if you want.

All of those schools that Vlad listed have great programs, thanks for posting that info, but, yeah, some of that info seems probably out of date, or maybe just based on a small sample size. from what I know, there's like nobody at U-M doing traditional work! Their last MFA show was pretty much all social practice, performance for video, installation work, etc. U-M is another great school that was hard for me to turn down.

Tthe description of VCU regarding interdisciplinary work is similarly off. Yeah, there are separate departments, I am in the Kinetic Imaging department which is fantastic and is all experimental video, sound, performance, new media, etc. but there are also painters working in performance, people in the glass department working with sound, etc. There is a lot of overlap, taking each other's classes, etc.

If anyone has any questions, particularly anything about VCU or maybe other schools' new media programs (I looked at and visited a lot of them!), let me know.

Good luck everyone!

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1 hour ago, Eric from America said:

Hey, I am at VCU right now. this forum was helpful to me when I was applying, so I am checking in to see how everyone's freak out is going!

Hey, Cixelated, yeah, Cranbrook is an awesome school. Of the schools I was accepted to, it was one of the hardest ones for me to turn down. I lived in Detroit for several years, I know several Cranbrook alums really well. It's great to hear you are having such a good experience there. I'd love to see what you're doing. Shoot me a message if you want.

All of those schools that Vlad listed have great programs, thanks for posting that info, but, yeah, some of that info seems probably out of date, or maybe just based on a small sample size. from what I know, there's like nobody at U-M doing traditional work! Their last MFA show was pretty much all social practice, performance for video, installation work, etc. U-M is another great school that was hard for me to turn down.

Tthe description of VCU regarding interdisciplinary work is similarly off. Yeah, there are separate departments, I am in the Kinetic Imaging department which is fantastic and is all experimental video, sound, performance, new media, etc. but there are also painters working in performance, people in the glass department working with sound, etc. There is a lot of overlap, taking each other's classes, etc.

If anyone has any questions, particularly anything about VCU or maybe other schools' new media programs (I looked at and visited a lot of them!), let me know.

Good luck everyone!

Hey Eric just out of curiosity, do you remember the application process for VCU? when did you hear back and if you had to interview? 

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1 hour ago, Rtwoneday said:

Hey Eric just out of curiosity, do you remember the application process for VCU? when did you hear back and if you had to interview? 

Yeah, sure, I remember it like it was yesterday! VCU applications were due Jan 15, I sent mine in on Jan 13. They contacted me by email Feb 6 to say they wanted me to interview. My interview was Monday Feb 11 at 10:30 in the morning over Skype, with the department chair, the department grad director, and a current 2nd year grad student. They emailed me an acceptance letter on Feb 19. I visited Richmond the weekend of March 16 and 17 and visited with VCUarts (met more faculty, met more current students, sat in on a class, etc.) on Monday, March 18 to help make a decision. I had some great options, so I had a lot to consider. I had until April 15 to accept their offer.

Thanks for asking. I hope that helps. 

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Hello everyone I just finished my applications for USA schools for painting MFA program for 2020

Yale

RISD

SAIC

Hunter 

 

and,

RCA

Goldsmiths

in London, UK

 

If anyone went to one of these schools I would love to hear about your experiences (good and bad) :)

Wish everyone hears good news from your first top choices!

 

 

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Anyone get an interview invite for SAIC (FVNMA) yet? Their site says on-campus interview invitations for the weekend of Feb 15 will be sent by the end of this month.

Would love to hear any experiences people have had at Oxford (Ruskin MFA), U Chicago (Art MFA), Goldsmiths (Fine Art MFA), SAIC (FVNMA MFA), Glasgow (Fine Art MFA), Piet Zwart (Fine Art)... Might apply to Städelschule later.

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Ahh, I'm just patiently waiting for the 15th deadline for two of my apps to hit and then I can rest knowing everything is under review! 

I haven't seen as many design leaning folks on here - but I'm applying to: 

SVA Interaction Design
Pratt Communications Design
Parsons Communication Design
ArtCenter Graphic Design 

Ahhhh, this is my first time applying to grad programs so I'm nervous and excited : D I hope everyone is boding well during the wait times! 

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Hello! Does anyone know how common it is for schools to give you news/interview invites over the phone? I am going to be abroad with no cell service for the next month and I am wondering if I need to be worried about missing calls. Is it a good idea to email the schools I applied to and let them know that I can't be reached by phone? Would really appreciate any advice!

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5 hours ago, cubby said:

Hello! Does anyone know how common it is for schools to give you news/interview invites over the phone? I am going to be abroad with no cell service for the next month and I am wondering if I need to be worried about missing calls. Is it a good idea to email the schools I applied to and let them know that I can't be reached by phone? Would really appreciate any advice!

This was a discussion in last years forum, I believe about this time of the year in case you want to go back, but she did email her schools to let them know. A lot of people said they got news through calls. 

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On 1/15/2020 at 11:25 AM, cubby said:

Hello! Does anyone know how common it is for schools to give you news/interview invites over the phone? I am going to be abroad with no cell service for the next month and I am wondering if I need to be worried about missing calls. Is it a good idea to email the schools I applied to and let them know that I can't be reached by phone? Would really appreciate any advice!

I had an unannounced phone interview approximately mid-February last year if I remember correctly. I would notify the schools.

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