IR_Fan Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I was just on the phone with Graduate Admissions today about some scholarships, and they said they have not received anything from NPSIA yet. They said that we will likely receive our official offers mid to late next week. NPSIA is probably still deciding how to allocate all the funding to its first round picks. KW77, Hawkmoon and ElleG 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoon Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, IR_Fan said: I was just on the phone with Graduate Admissions today about some scholarships, and they said they have not received anything from NPSIA yet. They said that we will likely receive our official offers mid to late next week. NPSIA is probably still deciding how to allocate all the funding to its first round picks. Thanks for the update. Waiting till next week I guess... crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGoodGhosts Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 If anyone’s in Ottawa, Philippe Lagassé (NPSIA prof) and Thomas Juneau and Srdjan Vucetic (GSPIA) are releasing a book tonight at Chateau Laurier and giving out 50 free copies. The book is titled “Canadian Defence Policy in Theory and Practice” Hawkmoon and anxietypersonified 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endzone98 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) Anyone thinking about how they will fund their Munk tuition (if given admission) out of curiosity, and whether if that expensive of a program is worth it at the end? Thinking quite a bit about the return of investment quite a bit LOL Edited March 3, 2020 by Endzone98 coffeeandeducation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW77 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Endzone98 said: Anyone thinking about how they will fund their Munk tuition (if given admission) out of curiosity, and whether if that expensive of a program is worth it at the end? Thinking quite a bit about the return of investment quite a bit LOL I have been wondering about this as well, the school recommended that if you didn't get OSAP, OGS, or some other type of scholarship, ScotiaBank offers professional loans up to 100k if your credit history is good and if you can potentially get a cosigner (depending on if your working full time or not). In terms of the return on investment, i honestly can't say, I know some people that went to programs like Munk, LSE, Georgetown etc and never got any big private sector jobs to justify the debt they took, while on the other hand, i have met a lot of people from what would be considered "middle of the pack universities and programs" who have done exceptionally well in gov't and the private sector across North America. I really think it depends on what your end goal is in addition to specific attributes about you as individual (work/volunteer experience, additional languages or special skills). The only sure thing programs like this can give you is better access to alumni networks and special events, in addition to giving you the opportunity to work in prestigious departments/organizations (coop). Atleast that's my take on it, i'm sure others have different perspectives on here as well. coffeeandeducation, Endzone98 and irnerd 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endzone98 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, KW77 said: I have been wondering about this as well, the school recommended that if you didn't get OSAP, OGS, or some other type of scholarship, ScotiaBank offers professional loans up to 100k if your credit history is good and if you can potentially get a cosigner (depending on if your working full time or not). In terms of the return on investment, i honestly can't say, I know some people that went to programs like Munk, LSE, Georgetown etc and never got any big private sector jobs to justify the debt they took, while on the other hand, i have met a lot of people from what would be considered "middle of the pack universities and programs" who have done exceptionally well in gov't and the private sector across North America. I really think it depends on what your end goal is in addition to specific attributes about you as individual (work/volunteer experience, additional languages or special skills). The only sure thing programs like this can give you is better access to alumni networks and special events, in addition to giving you the opportunity to work in prestigious departments/organizations (coop). Atleast that's my take on it, i'm sure others have different perspectives on here as well. Yea thats a great point! I really feel like the prestige of U of T is what draws many people (including myself) into going there, but the price is quite high in fees LOL. My end goal personally has been to work either for NATO or work on something related with national defence policy. KW77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lb1196 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, IR_Fan said: Grew up just outside of Calgary and did my first year of uni in Lethbridge before transferring to Carleton. Oh wow! I wonder if we met! also, my status on Carleton Central has changed to “review in progress by faculty of postgraduate etc” so here’s hoping we get letters soon! Hawkmoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnerd Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) i'm personally finding carleton 360 super glitchy. i've gone back to recommended for assessment. i'm more patient this time since i know i've been accepted unofficially, but i really am curious to see the funding amount lol (im hoping they're generous but it could be a pretty small amount) APPLICATION PDF" Edited March 4, 2020 by irnerd Hawkmoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnerd Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 39 minutes ago, KW77 said: I have been wondering about this as well, the school recommended that if you didn't get OSAP, OGS, or some other type of scholarship, ScotiaBank offers professional loans up to 100k if your credit history is good and if you can potentially get a cosigner (depending on if your working full time or not). In terms of the return on investment, i honestly can't say, I know some people that went to programs like Munk, LSE, Georgetown etc and never got any big private sector jobs to justify the debt they took, while on the other hand, i have met a lot of people from what would be considered "middle of the pack universities and programs" who have done exceptionally well in gov't and the private sector across North America. I really think it depends on what your end goal is in addition to specific attributes about you as individual (work/volunteer experience, additional languages or special skills). The only sure thing programs like this can give you is better access to alumni networks and special events, in addition to giving you the opportunity to work in prestigious departments/organizations (coop). Atleast that's my take on it, i'm sure others have different perspectives on here as well. think you nailed it. your degree might open doors, but work/other attributes are equally important i also personally feel like there's less an emphasis on brand name schools in the public sector than private sector. Hawkmoon and Endzone98 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoon Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 15 hours ago, theGoodGhosts said: If anyone’s in Ottawa, Philippe Lagassé (NPSIA prof) and Thomas Juneau and Srdjan Vucetic (GSPIA) are releasing a book tonight at Chateau Laurier and giving out 50 free copies. The book is titled “Canadian Defence Policy in Theory and Practice” Damn... Just saw this... Did you go?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGoodGhosts Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Hawkmoon said: Damn... Just saw this... Did you go?? Yeah. Found out about it from Twitter yesterday, and totally spaced on posting it here until right before the event Sorry! It was pretty good. The former head of CSIS Dick Fadden gave a short talk, and I got to chat with a couple NPSIA students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoon Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 33 minutes ago, theGoodGhosts said: Yeah. Found out about it from Twitter yesterday, and totally spaced on posting it here until right before the event Sorry! It was pretty good. The former head of CSIS Dick Fadden gave a short talk, and I got to chat with a couple NPSIA students. Damn! lol... Ah well serves me right for not checking the events page and twitter.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGoodGhosts Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Woo! Status on Carleton Central just updated to "Review in progress by Faculty of Graduate and Postdoctoral Affairs" Edited March 4, 2020 by theGoodGhosts Hawkmoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoon Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, theGoodGhosts said: Woo! Status on Carleton Central just updated to "Review in progress by Faculty of Graduate and Postdoctoral Affairs" Congrats! Mine is still stuck in "recommended for assessment" hell...... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGoodGhosts Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hawkmoon said: Congrats! Mine is still stuck in "recommended for assessment" hell...... lol You already got the "unofficial" acceptance email though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoon Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, theGoodGhosts said: You already got the "unofficial" acceptance email though, right? Yeah got the email so that's good. Really need to get a handle on funding soon tho.. Did you get a specialization??/ Edited March 4, 2020 by Hawkmoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElleG Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, Hawkmoon said: Yeah got the email so that's good. Really need to get a handle on funding soon tho.. Did you get a specialization??/ Mine still have no specialization. Did you get yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoon Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, ElleG said: Mine still have no specialization. Did you get yours? Not yet... sigh... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudibou123 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 I have a question for NPSIA applicants, current students or alumni's. I see that the program is 5 credits, and courses are normally 0.5 credits, for a total of 10 courses. I was wondering how much time does it actually take to complete the program for a student that takes the coursework option. how many classes do students usually take per semester? Am I right when I say that you can complete the MA in 2-3 semesters, taking4-5 courses each? Is that realistic? I am still trying to correctly figure out the structure of the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGoodGhosts Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Boudibou123 said: I have a question for NPSIA applicants, current students or alumni's. I see that the program is 5 credits, and courses are normally 0.5 credits, for a total of 10 courses. I was wondering how much time does it actually take to complete the program for a student that takes the coursework option. how many classes do students usually take per semester? Am I right when I say that you can complete the MA in 2-3 semesters, taking4-5 courses each? Is that realistic? I am still trying to correctly figure out the structure of the program. I suppose, but I think then you'd miss out on the co-op program. Also, the workload might be a bit hefty. EDIT: Missed the question about how many classes per semester. I believe the standard is 3. Obviously they're a little more intensive than undergrad classes, but there's also the issue of TAships and RAships that take up a lot of time and energy in their own right. Edited March 4, 2020 by theGoodGhosts Hawkmoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoon Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, theGoodGhosts said: I suppose, but I think then you'd miss out on the co-op program. Also, the workload might be a bit hefty. EDIT: Missed the question about how many classes per semester. I believe the standard is 3. Obviously they're a little more intensive than undergrad classes, but there's also the issue of TAships and RAships that take up a lot of time and energy in their own right. From what I've been told if you do no co-ops, no TA-ing, and do summer courses etc, you would be able to finish within a year. But one of the reasons I chose NPSIA is the networking and co-op opportunities there. 10-11 course in a year at a masters level would be difficult for me. theGoodGhosts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudibou123 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 I get it. Still, it seems to me that 10-11 classes in 3 semesters are pretty manageable (I already have a master on my end so I've done it before). I'm also pretty sure you would be able to network and all during that time, but hey, that's just me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoon Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Boudibou123 said: I get it. Still, it seems to me that 10-11 classes in 3 semesters are pretty manageable (I already have a master on my end so I've done it before). I'm also pretty sure you would be able to network and all during that time, but hey, that's just me! Hey if you can pull it off, good luck! Depending on funding I'll probably have to work part time... theGoodGhosts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElleG Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, theGoodGhosts said: I suppose, but I think then you'd miss out on the co-op program. Also, the workload might be a bit hefty. EDIT: Missed the question about how many classes per semester. I believe the standard is 3. Obviously they're a little more intensive than undergrad classes, but there's also the issue of TAships and RAships that take up a lot of time and energy in their own right. Do you know if they set a limit as to how many you can take? Or what is the minimum to be considered a full-time student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGoodGhosts Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) @ElleG the minimum for full-time is 1.5 credits. Not sure what the upper bound is, but in undergrad, it was 2.5 (but you could overload to 3 if your grades were high enough). While you're on a co-op term, the most you can take is a single 0.5 credit class. Edited March 4, 2020 by theGoodGhosts ElleG and Hawkmoon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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