Rrandle101 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Idk if anyone else feels like this but my motivation to keep up with classwork and orgs has just plummeted since this semester has started. I finally got around to doing a horrific amount of laundry and feel a sense of self pride/dignity restoring but last week when I was in the thick of most of my decisions I kind of dropped the ball with some of my coursework. Thankfully I only have two programs left that haven't responded back yet to anyone (and quite frankly I'm not sure if I'll be getting into either) but it's nice like someone else was saying to be so close to the end of the application cycle. Good luck to everyone who still has a bunch of unknowns left to go through and try to take care of y'allselves in the meantime. aussiekoala, Deleuze, karamazov and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooniesneversaydie Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 23 hours ago, Michel FoucOhNo said: Anyone claiming the Tufts acceptances on the board? Hate to add it to the (growing) list of implied rejections. I'm one of the PhD Tufts. Don't give up hope - it's quite literally all we have to cling onto. It's been my only acceptance so far, with 3 rejections and 2 implied rejections taunting my brain-space. It's only over when it's over. caffeinated applicant, Michel FoucOhNo, karamazov and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichelleObama Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 hours ago, meghan_sparkle said: you're killing it YOU ARE! I see now that I was never actually prepared for the possibility of having a choice to make. I am a triple air sign...I am allergic to decisions. 1 hour ago, gooniesneversaydie said: I'm one of the PhD Tufts. Don't give up hope - it's quite literally all we have to cling onto. It's been my only acceptance so far, with 3 rejections and 2 implied rejections taunting my brain-space. It's only over when it's over. Congratulations!! I didn't consider that program until after the deadline and I wish I would have applied. gooniesneversaydie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiekoala Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Does anyone know which programs are more probable to give out moving funds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meghan_sparkle Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 12:09 AM, MichelleObama said: YOU ARE! I see now that I was never actually prepared for the possibility of having a choice to make. I am a triple air sign...I am allergic to decisions. LOL. Not a triple air sign but I feel this. MichelleObama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnachronisticPoet Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Heads up! UCLA updated my letter on the application form but didn't send an email. Might be worth checking yours if you applied. Kelsey1599 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merry night wanderer Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I feel a little presumptuous saying this, but I guess as someone who has had some big gaps in their education: If anyone is totally lost about what kinds of jobs to get if they get shut out, I do know a bit about it - I actually have a position that many Ph.Ds turn to as alt-ac, and I have some understanding of how an English major's skillset can be transferred. (Let me tell you, I have some mixed feelings about seeing a freelance job I've held before listed by some schools in placement records!) Hopefully you all know this, but statistically, you aren't lost as a liberal arts major. It takes more time and research, but ultimately most of us land positions that pay as well as any other major. My current job pays well and is done remotely, meaning I can (and do) travel often. You probably need a master's to do my particular position, but I held some decent positions before my master's as well. The key is really to get up to date on certain software and certifications, and to pay close attention to what kinds of jobs are actually being advertised, because the workforce is changing so much that appropriate jobs aren't always called what you expect. (Loads of jobs need writing skills, not just ones that are titled "Writer.") Also: I took tons of time off. And you know this, I'm sure, but it can be very fruitful. Aside from practical corporate bullshit, I learned how to be a fiction writer, I recovered from a lot of the mental health issues I had after homeschooling, I traveled, I went to a million burn festivals, and I read for the syllabus of myself. I doubt most of you will be as meandering as I've been about it, and maybe you don't need time off like I did, but if all goes well, you have the rest of your lives to be in academia, and you can make great use of a year, and be a better scholar and teacher for it. Deleuze, killerbunny, MichelleObama and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnachronisticPoet Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, AnachronisticPoet said: Heads up! UCLA updated my letter on the application form but didn't send an email. Might be worth checking yours if you applied. Tbh I think it's unprofessional and inconsiderate to not even send an email at the same time or previous to updating the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digital_lime Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, merry night wanderer said: The key is really to get up to date on certain software and certifications, and to pay close attention to what kinds of jobs are actually being advertised, because the workforce is changing so much that appropriate jobs aren't always called what you expect. (Loads of jobs need writing skills, not just ones that are titled "Writer.") I would love to hear more about this if you have the time. Specifically what certifications and pieces of software have you found valuable? I'm trying not to give up hope, but it's appearing more and more likely that I'm going to be shut out this season, and I need to start planning now so that I'm able to land on my feet in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsey1599 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 UCONN claimer? I am terrified it seems like all of my schools are dropping decisions left and right. Here's to hope fellow waiters !!? onerepublic96 and digital_lime 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meghan_sparkle Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Am also available to talk about English major-adjacent jobs! Have worked in literary journalism, full-time as an editor, balancing several gigs as a research assistant, etc. There really is a lot to do, and in my experience rather than feeling like you're on the outside looking in (where "in" would be a PhD I guess) it's more like you've neglected to board as a first-class passenger on the Titanic. I mean first class is lovely and fancy and exclusive but, from a career/workforce perspective, it still is (or can be) the Titanic . . . CanadianEnglish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meghan_sparkle Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Though I would also say if I may: unless I'm mistaken no one is fully shut out yet! I've glanced at the signatures of a lot of the people worrying and seems like a lot of people still have places left to hear from. It isn't over until it's over, and I say this as a true pessimist/cynic. I can count on more than one hand the number of friends I have who either: 1. got in nowhere except their top choice, and that choice was one of the last, if not the last, to notify; 2. got off waitlists late in the game—either explicit waitlists or invisible waitlists! Making a plan B no matter what is great and can be a great distraction from decision season anxiety, but I wouldn't go into total fatalistic despair prematurely. jm6394, Deleuze, merry night wanderer and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merry night wanderer Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, digital_lime said: I would love to hear more about this if you have the time. Specifically what certifications and pieces of software have you found valuable? I'm trying not to give up hope, but it's appearing more and more likely that I'm going to be shut out this season, and I need to start planning now so that I'm able to land on my feet in the summer. Sure thing. First of all: if you're looking for a job, make as much use of your school's career center as humanly possible. They are there to help you, and they can hopefully help you word/frame the experience you've had so far in such a way that looks appealing on a resume. With that said: you are going to want to fact-check all of their advice, because to be honest, a lot of the people in career centers are university admins and don't always know jack about the job market! However, it doesn't hurt to go to them to get your resume checked and to ask them about the jobs they're aware of. When I was an undergrad, I found them very helpful for positioning all the tutoring jobs I held in such a way that landed me an incredibly sweet and rare position as an actual scriptwriter (as in, I wrote dialogue for videos - I was unbelievably lucky, but then again, the company was a trainwreck and imploded two years later... capitalism sucks, but I digress). They really helped me format my resume. When it came to searching for jobs, they were more clueless and I was on my own, but I'm still glad I went to see them. Second, I would suggest just browsing jobs in your area, using Indeed or Monster or what have you - sometimes, schools have their own job boards as well - and seeing what looks appealing and what you think you can do. Don't be intimidated if you don't have the skills yet, necessarily. You can learn those skills. I repeat: you can learn those skills. Screw imposter syndrome. You're smart and adaptable. Be honest with yourself about what you can learn - for instance, in my field, it's helpful to know a bit about graphic design. While I can do minor graphic design (I have the world's tiniest, most insignificant amount of talent in the visual arts), I am never going to be a full on graphic designer; at the same time, knowing a bit about Illustrator is doable and looks great on the resume, so I put it there, even though I don't overplay my hand wrt graphic design. But you definitely want to be bold and put things on your resume that you feel confident you know something about, or can learn something about quickly. Unfortunately, most resumes are processed through a computer before they reach human eyes, and computers are very dumb - so it's all about getting keywords in. Use the job descriptions to learn the lingo, copy their wording for soft skills, and if you see software listed in the skills section of the jobs, learn something about it and list it. "Knowing software" need not be super complex or intimidating. Trust me: if you can apply for a Ph.D, you can learn PowerPoint or the ins and outs of Word. Even if you don't know everything, you can look up a YouTube tutorial. You are capable of that. You may not have even thought of putting software on your resume - I didn't - but again, computers are dumb, and if you don't list things like Microsoft Office, you might get sorted into the No pile. I find a lot of people feel very intimidated by this, but they shouldn't be. My field routinely lists an extremely simple screenshot snapping software called SnagIt in the skills section, which takes, I kid you not, two buttons to correctly use, but if I don't put it on my resume, I risk being sorted out. The corporate universe is wild. It depends on which field you're in, but if you're doing writing, for instance, a portfolio is always helpful. You will probably have to write articles from scratch since you definitely don't want to put literary criticism on there, and as much of a pain as this is to do, it is always worth it to have tangible proof of your skill. I will also say this: approach jobs ruthlessly. I am biased because of my political beliefs, and the fact I've always lived in at-will employment states, but I do strongly believe you should not let any professional job get personal for you. This isn't academia, which, extremely problematic as it is, does have a very worthwhile, ethical dimension - companies are making money off of you, and often a lot of money, and often at your expense. Mediocrity is often rewarded. Nepotism wins out over quality, almost every time. Even if you love your manager (and I've been friends with many of mine; a couple transitioned to close friends, in fact) they don't always have the power they need to watch your back when budgets get slashed and layoffs happen. Look out for yourself and pay attention to your survival instincts! Lighthouse Lana, tansy, rue, root, & seed, vondafkossum and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timespentreading Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I agree with meghan_sparkle that it's pretty early to worry unless you are already shut out. And, per merry night wanderer, there is a lot of work to be had out there. The job market is solid right now. University Advancement is a great place to get hired with writing skills, especially on foundation/corporate relations and annual giving teams, since those are more writing-focused. Advancement offices also tend to pay pretty well. If you're extroverted, alumni offices can have cool roles available, or being a major gift officer can pay REALLY well. In other news, not to freak people out, but there's a Cornell acceptance on the board. Deleuze, Lighthouse Lana and merry night wanderer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onerepublic96 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Also NYU is rolling out waitlists, which, I'm afraid, means those several acceptances were probably it... jm6394 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecogoth Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, Kelsey1599 said: UCONN claimer? I am terrified it seems like all of my schools are dropping decisions left and right. Here's to hope fellow waiters !!? That one was me! I was sent an email this morning with the offer - nothing updated on the actual UConn portal yet. vondafkossum, Kelsey1599, Deleuze and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caffeinated applicant Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, merry night wanderer said: "Knowing software" need not be super complex or intimidating. Trust me: if you can apply for a Ph.D, you can learn PowerPoint or the ins and outs of Word. Even if you don't know everything, you can look up a YouTube tutorial. You are capable of that. You may not have even thought of putting software on your resume - I didn't - but again, computers are dumb, and if you don't list things like Microsoft Office, you might get sorted into the No pile. I find a lot of people feel very intimidated by this, but they shouldn't be. My field routinely lists an extremely simple screenshot snapping software called SnagIt in the skills section, which takes, I kid you not, two buttons to correctly use, but if I don't put it on my resume, I risk being sorted out. The corporate universe is wild. This post is all great, and I want to highlight this point in particular--you'd be amazed how many hiring managers, particularly those who haven't done a lot of hiring recently, will be looking for you to say that you know how to use Microsoft Outlook or Word. It is not necessarily assumed that you have these skills, even though you just listed on your resume that you have a bachelor's degree. And yeah, the computer filtering system might spit you out before you even get to the hiring manager if you leave some of that simple stuff off, especially if it's one of those dumb drop-down menus where you have to click on like every single computer program you've ever opened. Also, keep in mind that you do not need to be the world's leading expert on Microsoft Word to list yourself as proficient. Basically what it comes down to is that just most people who graduated from a moderately well-known college with a four-year degree since 2015 can figure out their way around basic computer stuff with very minimal training by Googling for things they don't know, but hiring managers and candidate-screening programs don't necessarily assume this, so you have to point it out to them. A few skills you might want to pick up, especially if you're looking at admin-type jobs: - pivot tables and conditional formatting in Excel - mail merge in Outlook - basic social media/marketing tools like Hootsuite and MailChimp - basic Google Drive apps (Documents, Sheets, and whatever their knockoff PowerPoint is) (Not that any of us is gonna get shut out, since nobody is yet, but heck, this would be useful just for anyone who wants to do a temp job between undergrad and grad or current job and grad. Also, read the Ask a Manager advice blog to fact-check the advice you get from your college career center.) Edited February 13, 2020 by caffeinated applicant added a couple more skills. one day I'll finish editing before I press post merry night wanderer and vondafkossum 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narrative Nancy Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, onerepublic96 said: Also NYU is rolling out waitlists, which, I'm afraid, means those several acceptances were probably it... Yea, one the waitlists is me, I was told they make few initial offers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onerepublic96 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, timespentreading said: In other news, not to freak people out, but there's a Cornell acceptance on the board. Oh man. Cornell is one of my top choices ? Anyone want to claim this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onerepublic96 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, onerepublic96 said: Oh man. Cornell is one of my top choices ? Anyone want to claim this? aaaand just got a rejection. fun times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
politics 'n prose Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just got the ol’ heave-ho from Cornell, too. Not unexpected, but still a bummer because it seemed like a pretty strong fit. I’m now just waiting to hear from one more school (come through quick, Chapel Hill!) before the fun part of actually making a decision starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inchoate-eyes Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Does anyone know when we'll hear from Princeton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeelyf Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) First Emory acceptee on the board said they only have 5 spots. Can anyone claim that acceptance and did anyone else hear from Emory? I was rejected by Cornell as well, which I kind of expected because it was the worst fit out of my 9 programs. Edited February 13, 2020 by coffeelyf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani13 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, coffeelyf said: First Emory acceptee on the board said they only have 5 spots. Can anyone claim that acceptance and did anyone else hear from Emory? That was me. Edited February 13, 2020 by Rani13 coffeelyf, Rrandle101 and vondafkossum 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimsey Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Cornell rejection. This one hurts. It was one of my favorite programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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