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Generally, speech path programs tend to put more stock into GPA, but a really good GRE score (say, above a 315-ish) can help offset an average or below average GPA. However, it's definitely something that depends on the school! According to ASHA's edfind though Vanderbilt has a pretty high average GRE score (163V 158Q 4.7AW) on top of a 3.8-4.0 GPA. Washington has an average of 158V 155Q 4.5 AW and a GPA between 3.62-4.0.
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Outside major looking for good programs!
snoves replied to Southwestspeechie's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
As a non-major you're going to need to be applying to programs that accept people that haven't done any of the prereqs, as I'm sure you know. I believe ASHA's edfind has a list of schools that will accept students without prereqs, so if you haven't checked that out I would definitely take a look on their website! They will probably have links to their websites and maybe stats for non-majors applying to the program. You could also contact schools if you're interested in their programs! As @CBG321 said, schools that don't look at GRE tend to accept people with super high GPAs, and also tend to get SWAMPED with applications. For example, CSU: Fullerton doesn't take GREs and had 500 people apply for 28 spots. Most of the students they took at a GPA between a 3.8-4.0. The quantitative section of the GRE isn't a huge deal for this field though, so if you are able to do well on verbal, get around a 50 percentile score on quant, and 4.0 on AW you'd still be in a good place. Even if you got slightly lower than 50th percentile, you'd probably still be competitive in those programs. You also have a good GPA and your research experience will looks amazing on apps. I wish you the BEST of luck on the GRE!!! I took it about a month ago and the entire process of studying, taking it, and waiting for results was so stressful lol. You're gonna feel AMAZING when it's done! -
SLP Masters programs....advice!!
snoves replied to OptimisticSpeechie's topic in Decisions, Decisions
I would suggest posting on the Speech-Language Pathology forum, since it's pretty active with people that are both applying and have already been admitted to programs. I've seen people with lower GRE scores/GPAs that recieved admissions on the forum and I'm sure that they would love to share whatever advice they have- 6 replies
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SLP Masters programs....advice!!
snoves replied to OptimisticSpeechie's topic in Decisions, Decisions
Have you looked on ASHA's Edfind?- 6 replies
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Will I get into grad school?
snoves replied to kelseyp333's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
You have a good shot, I wouldn't worry so much! I'm in the same boat as you, being a senior and freaking out that I'm not good enough, I haven't done enough to impress schools, all that good stuff. I think it's important to remember that there are still things you can do to strengthen your application and skills. Keeping grades up, continuing to volunteer/work in relevant areas, and using this year as an opportunity to strengthen relationships with professors are great ways to help your application. Even experiences that seem unrelated can be a good thing. Working in a writing center probably means you have experience working in small groups/one-on-one and have many useful qualities that a clinicians needs to be successful (patience, professionalism, etc.) that you can use for your SOP and resume.- 6 replies
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"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretzky" - Michael Scott But seriously, if this is want you want to do then go for it! There are SO many people going into grad school who have a lower GPA than you, with less experience, etc. so if this is what you wanna do then just go for it. Yes, it's a competitive field and I don't wanna say that you shouldn't be worried but I think that it's worth applying. I agree with @BeachySpeechy speechy though -- don't limit yourself to only programs that don't take the GRE (especially since most people applying to these programs are people with very high GPAs and average/low GRE scores). Study hard for it and kick some ass.
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Experience For Grad School?
snoves replied to ainsworthk7259's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
Research is really subjective to the program, from what I've read. Some programs are very research-based and it's very helpful to have experience in that area; others aren't necessarily looking for it. While it can only really strengthen your application, I wouldn't be extremely stressed about it. There are plenty of people who get into grad school in this field with little/no research experience. There isn't an average or standard application honestly. There are people on these forums that had average or meh GPAs/GRE scores but great work/volunteer experience, and people who have great grades and some experience and they all got in! There isn't a secret formula to a good application, especially since different schools are looking for different areas of strength. Your experiences, as far as I've read, are more important in showing that you have an interest in the field and so that you have something to write about in your personal statements that makes you stand out. I would use ASHA's edfind search engine and see what programs interest you, and base your application baseline for "good" vs. "average" applications off of that. If you are getting good grades and have volunteer/work experience, then you'll probably do just fine. It sounds like you are doing very well for yourself and that you will have a lot to mention on your SOPs! I know that it's hard to not be stressed out about grad school in this field, but you're going to be fine. Keep your grades up, study for the GRE when it comes time, and keep looking for opportunities to add to your CV!- 1 reply
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Close to home vs out of state: Did location play a part in your program choices?
snoves replied to renea's question in Questions and Answers
I am so sorry to hear that. It's no good to feel guilty about it though...I'm sure that he knew how much you both loved and appreciated him. I know that saying that really does nothing to get rid of the feeling but it's true. I think that a lot of people who are close to their family worry about that kind of stuff, even if everyone is in good health. The good thing is that they know that you love them and that life gets in the way sometimes.- 9 replies
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I am going into my senior year of undergrad and still have three classes to take before I get my degree. I also am taking a biology and child development course over the summer. I'm not worried about it though since it seems like you just have to have a majority of your pre-reqs done before applying!
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Close to home vs out of state: Did location play a part in your program choices?
snoves replied to renea's question in Questions and Answers
I'm currently applying for programs for my MS/MA and staying in California is really important to me. I'm finishing up my undergrad right now at a school about 5 hours away and I plan to attend a grad school where I'm still within a 6 hour drive or so. I worry all the time that my grandparents will pass away while I'm gone at school and I won't be able to say goodbye (I grew up with one set living a 5 minute walk from my home and the other set a 10 minute drive to the next down over). My family also lives in a very beautiful area with lots of hiking, state parks, beaches, etc. which makes it appealing even outside of family to me. In-state tuition is also a big plus! If I had to move out of state to find a program that fits my interests I would, but I'm lucky since California has so many great programs for my field!- 9 replies
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Number of school's you're apply to?
snoves replied to AVSchilling1995's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
I'm applying to three, mostly because 1) they're all schools I would absolutely go to if I were accepted and 2) I am okay with waiting a year if I don't get in my first time. Honestly I'd prefer to take a year off to save up some cash and pay off some loans but my family is really pressuring me to get it done now, so ya know. I also don't want to spend 800+ dollars on applications for schools I don't even really wanna go to for my first round, even if they may be "safe". Next year if I have to reapply I'll probably broaden my field and apply to a few more programs, but we'll see! Most people apply to around 4-8, but I've seen some one on here that applied to like 25 or some crazy number like that. It's really up to you how many to apply to, it's a competitive field but applications cost time and money. If you have a decent GPA and GRE scores, you're probably going to be okay applying to 5 or 6 programs. I wouldn't apply to more than 8 unless you're really worried your application is lacking! -
It probably depends on the program, but for many you have to go through the same application process as if you were a new grad student I think. Sometimes you can transfer grades for classes you've taken, but for most it's required you take the majority of your classes at that specific university. I would email the programs you're trying to transfer into directly and ask if they accept transfer students, and if the classes you've already taken would count towards your MA. Good luck!!
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SLPA in CA / NAU Summer Track and other questions...
snoves replied to KEIM's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
Not a SLPA but from my own research I've noticed that Los Angeles county has some openings, as well as the Inland Empire but you have to be willing to live in actual hell fire. -
Your precious time spent to review my AWA issue task would be appreciated.
snoves replied to Nanaiah's topic in GRE/GMAT/etc
I think this would probably score around a 3-4. You have a quite a few grammatical errors and your sentence structure would benefit from some variance in length and punctuation. The flow between paragraphs and even within them was very choppy, sometimes even jarring since there isn't any introduction to your next point. You get your point across but remember that the essay is partially graded on grammar, so it's important that your essay maintains a good amount of fluidity. There are some claims made in your essay that you don't back up very well with examples. You say in the second paragraph that "Long term goals when reached are recognized for a longer time and are not transitory.Contrary ,having only short term goals can get fame immediately but only among a smaller population." but then don't back this up with any relevant examples. I can think of many long-term projects that were a flash in the pan and faded from the public eye that would disprove your point as well. I think that something your essay would benefit from would be to address the other side of the argument more thoroughly, or maybe even provide an example that demonstrates why seeking immediate fame and fortune doesn't lead to long-term success (for example, people who create viral videos may have success for a moment, but then then become irrelevant in a very short amount of time). Your examples using facebook and space missions do a great job of illustrating your point! Overall it is a focused essay and your argument is there, it just needs some clarification and more relevant examples to help give your reasons a bit more of a foundation. -
San Jose State and Fresno State financial aid?
snoves replied to snoves's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
Thank you so much for the info! Seriously just what I was looking for. I'm only applying to a few schools (all CSUs lol) this time because I reeeeally don't want to get stuck with hella loans if I can help it haha. I already have quite a bit from undergrad so I'm really trying to do my best to find a balance between a great program and price and looking for somewhere I could possibly get a grant/scholarship to partially cover tuition. I've heard great things about Fresno, but I totally agree that their website is seriously lacking information! Which makes it hard to write a good letter of intent/SOP about what I like about their program, but ya know. I've emailed the grad admissions coordinator a few times already to ask about a few other things and I don't want to annoy them with tons of dumb questions just yet! Thanks again!- 9 replies
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Hey guys, so I'm applying to these two schools but was wondering if any one who has been accepted/gone here for undergrad/is going to these schools now could give me a heads up on financial aid these schools offer for graduate students. From what I've read on the website, SJSU offers a few different grants specifically for SLP grads, but I was wondering how competitive these grants are, and when you apply for them (before or after admission to the program, specifically). Fresno is super freaking vague about what grants, if any, are offered for grad students. From their financial aid website all I can really see is that they offer some specific grants for students that have to complete internships during the program and that you can apply for other scholarships/grants, but you need a FresnoStateID in order to even access the application. Their webpage for the speech pathology program doesn't even really mention anything other than, of course, to check out their financial aid page...which obviously is very helpful. If you guys could offer me any more information on these programs (especially Fresno State), I'd really appreciate it! If I can't find any I'm probably going to email admissions but I'm worried I'll get a vague response that doesn't really offer any help Thanks!!
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As far as LOR goes, getting some at least two professors who can talk about your academic strengths will probably be best, as well as the SLP you are shadowing! It will show that you have an interest in the field and are academically prepared to handle graduate studies. It's really up to you on who to ask though. I've heard it's better to pick a professor who you know personally over a professor that will just give a generic, template LOR. I agree with @edardi1 to look at ASHA's EdFind search to find a program! Just take the stats with a grain of salt though, since 1) they are not the end all be all of getting accepted and 2) they are not always very accurate. It sounds like you will have a solid resume to me, the only thing I would suggest is to work hard on your statement of purpose (mentioning how your skills apply to the field, why you're interested, etc.) and making sure that you get decent GRE scores. Most programs look for a combined score of 300, with your quant score hitting above 50% (I think that's like a 152-153?) and an AW score of at least a 4.0 Best of luck!
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REALLY low quant score but a determined lil flower
snoves replied to weewaffle2017's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
Hey! I think that retaking the GRE is a good move. Some schools will accept students with quant scores in the 140's, but getting in the 130's is probably getting a little too low for most schools to see your scores as competitive, unfortunately. I'd focus on getting that math score up to at least around a 145-ish so you can get at least a 300 total score. Math was definitely my downfall on the GRE, so I tried to study it as much as I could stand (I'm okay at math but nowhere near as good at it as I am with reading and writing :P). I used Manhattan Prep's 5 lb. book of GRE questions and found it very helpful for studying. Also studied around 1-3 hours every day (with some days skipped since I worked all summer) for two months up to my testing date. Ended up with a 154 in the quant section (woo!) so it payed off at least! Idk if you've tried looking these programs up on ASHA's edfind, but usually they post a range of GPA's that they accept. Honestly a 3.75 is a pretty dang solid GPA so if you can get your GRE score up I think you'd have a solid chance getting into most schools! It's also important to remember that schools also value your SOP, experience, LORs, etc. so as long as you're well-rounded you will probably get into a least a few schools good luck! -
I don't know if it's possible for you to move out of state, but maybe looking at different programs would help? I've heard that casting a wider net and applying to schools all over the US can be helpful (and it may be possible to get a GAship or something that could help with tuition). I believe I've heard that schools in the midwest tend to be less competitive. I think that if you also look at schools that value last 60 credits GPA over your general GPA it will definitely help. Some schools list what they consider most important in their instructions for applying. I also don't know your situation, but how have you been prepping for the GRE? Have you tried using Magoosh/a tutor? I only ask because your scores are low for the field (most programs want at least a combined score of 300). I know you mentioned that you don't think retaking it would improve your scores, but since your GPA is a below a 3.5 it may help boost your application considerably.
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I just took the GRE last week and I found that the most helpful things for me was using practice problems and flash cards! That way I was both familiar with what kinds of questions would be on the test and could actually apply the concepts. I'm very much a person who "learns by doing", so practice problems helped me a lot. I also used a lot of flash cards to learn vocabulary (which was my biggest challenge, especially sentence equivalence problems). I will say that my scores stayed the same from the beginning of my first month of studying until the end of that month, then greatly improved between the end of the first month until I took the test. I think my scores were like 155V 147Q for my first practice test, and my unofficial scores for the GRE were 164V 154Q from my test last week. I studied about 1-3 hours every day (with days where I didn't study since I was sometimes working 11 hour days!), with more of a focus on the quantitative sections since I'm kind of meh at math. Good luck on your test!
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SLPA in CA / NAU Summer Track and other questions...
snoves replied to KEIM's topic in Speech-Language Pathology Forum
I'm also in CA and have looked into SLP-A as a back up for if I don't get into grad school. It really depends on where you're located--some counties have a ton of openings, since they're having trouble getting SLPs to stay, and some are totally barren. I know you said that you can't really move around so I would really search on job listing sites to see if your area actually has a fair amount of job openings. From what I've looked at salary is usually $20-25/hour depending on experience, the school district, etc. I wouldn't say you're giving up too easily! This is unfortunately a stupidly competitive field, especially in California. There are so many people, on and off these forums, who would probably make great clinicians but can't get accepted to a program because of a low GPA that doesn't even reflect who they are anymore. I would think that doing well in an associate's program would at least show that you have grown since your years in undergrad and are willing to put in the work to do well in a program, although I don't know if it would count towards your last 60 units GPA. Best of luck to you! -
Usually with SLP, having experience in a related field will boost your application but isn't a complete dealbreaker. What those experiences are really important for are as talking points in interviews/personal statements to show that you have gotten skills out of that job experience that can be used in your career as an SLP or in grad school. For example, working with adults with intellectual disabilities, even if you aren't working on communication directly, familiarizes you with a population that you will probably be working with in the future. You now know more about their personal struggles, ways you can be more effective while working with them, etc. and probably have new skills that can transfer over to working with other populations, as well. If you aren't enjoying the work or think that you would learn more relevant skills as an assistant, then I say go for it! Especially if you're interested in early intervention. Honestly either position will looks great on an application and I wouldn't worry so much about it
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I second what @joannly said about retaking it mid-October--if there's any problem with sending your scores (I've heard some of some people having problems with CSDCAS in the past), it'll give them more time to correct the mistake Best of luck with the GRE!